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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
357
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:05:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:That's actually what the light Caldari air vehicle will kinda look like. Agreed, I think the pic is of the heavy Caldari aircraft This artist actually does do work for CCP. It's likely they saw this piece in his portfolio and drew inspiration from it for the Caldari air vehicles. I heard he worked for ccp too but wasn't 100% sure, either way I want this aircraft to fly!!!!!!! |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
357
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Posted - 2013.09.08 15:15:00 -
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What do you guys think of this thing being able to carry tanks or other vehicles inside of it (not a large number of vehicles, maybe 1 tank) aswell as a few troops? |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
359
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Posted - 2013.09.08 19:58:00 -
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Bump :p |

zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
145
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Posted - 2013.09.08 22:14:00 -
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I can see that being the Caldari heavy air unit. |

forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
90
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:53:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:forteXVI wrote:fighting a bomber would be interesting Fire of Prometheus wrote:The assault dropship can't even destroy a tank (believe my it took my incubus, and 2 forge gunners to wreck a Madrugar) and pfft, I don't know what planet you fight on, But I eat tanks for breakfast :P Lol it was a hectic battle, I had swarms coming at me left right and centre.....I had to do lots of strafing runs to wreck that sucker haha ever had that heart pounding moment where you have 3 rail tanks trying to shoot you down? XD
we should fly together sometime and wreck the skies with devastating air superiority haha |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
368
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Posted - 2013.09.09 19:23:00 -
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forteXVI wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:forteXVI wrote:fighting a bomber would be interesting Fire of Prometheus wrote:The assault dropship can't even destroy a tank (believe my it took my incubus, and 2 forge gunners to wreck a Madrugar) and pfft, I don't know what planet you fight on, But I eat tanks for breakfast :P Lol it was a hectic battle, I had swarms coming at me left right and centre.....I had to do lots of strafing runs to wreck that sucker haha ever had that heart pounding moment where you have 3 rail tanks trying to shoot you down? XD we should fly together sometime and wreck the skies with devastating air superiority haha Definitely, I called in my incubus and thought it went unnotice.....I was wrong, I had a blaster gunnlogi trying to wreck me.....I flipped on the armour repper and went weaving in and out of outposts and stuff |

drake sadani
Tacti-corp
84
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Posted - 2013.09.09 19:30:00 -
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if they implement this...
i am going to call mine sexy star whale X1 .
can i put my emblem on it ?
that would be cool to just look up and see the emblem of SSW1 (sexy star whale X1 ) and just know who is about to rain merciless pain UPON THY HEATHEN BONES MWAHAHAHAHAHA ....
(oh god i blew my cover don't act amarr )
technology !
(perfect ) |

remlock creedmore
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.09 19:31:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:if they implement this...
i am going to call mine sexy star whale X1 .
can i put my emblem on it ?
that would be cool to just look up and see the emblem of SSW1 (sexy star whale X1 ) and just know who is about to rain merciless pain UPON THY HEATHEN BONES MWAHAHAHAHAHA ....
(oh god i blew my cover don't act amarr )
technology !
(perfect )
^ hes totally not a amarr spy |

501st Headstrong
Super Nerds
29
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Posted - 2013.09.09 19:32:00 -
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These are AMAZING IDEAS. Best implemented after larger teams I agree, the Assault Bomber( Collosus) should also come with a Mobile CRU so troops can just rain down.
Igor- So large it can actually hold multiple Dropships... |

drake sadani
Tacti-corp
84
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Posted - 2013.09.09 19:36:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:These are AMAZING IDEAS. Best implemented after larger teams I agree, the Assault Bomber( Collosus) should also come with a Mobile CRU so troops can just rain down.
Igor- So large it can actually hold multiple Dropships...
like one of those Russian dolls inside dolls things ? |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
370
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Posted - 2013.09.09 19:57:00 -
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I love the ideas people are putting foreward, I hope ccp is reading these.
I really want to see it carry troops and a tank I side of it.
Yes we need the bigger maps and more people but just imagine....
You and your squad are defending an objective and the enemy just won't give up.....all of a sudden there is none.....no more raspberries show up. You wonder "what are they planning?"
Then.....you hear it...the hum of a dropship....only....it's a deeper hum...like its a monster dropship. You start looking at the sky trying to spot this monstrosity.
Then over the mountain comes a monstrous looking aircraft, it's got guns all over it. You tell the AV player in your squad to start taking it down....his attempts cannot deter the beast. The ship proceeds to hover right above the objective....then you see it....the back door opens and all of a sudden, troops start falling by the dozen....and then....you stand there frozen because of what your seeing.....
A blaster Madrugar dropped from the back of the ship. It starts tearing your squad apart and the other blueberries that so happen to be at the same objective. You start cursing and order all of your squad to retreat and regroup....your squadmates reply that they are either pinned down or dead.....10 seconds later.....the objective falls into red control. |

drake sadani
Tacti-corp
86
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:10:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I love the ideas people are putting foreward, I hope ccp is reading these.
I really want to see it carry troops and a tank I side of it.
Yes we need the bigger maps and more people but just imagine....
You and your squad are defending an objective and the enemy just won't give up.....all of a sudden there is none.....no more raspberries show up. You wonder "what are they planning?"
Then.....you hear it...the hum of a dropship....only....it's a deeper hum...like its a monster dropship. You start looking at the sky trying to spot this monstrosity.
Then over the mountain comes a monstrous looking aircraft, it's got guns all over it. You tell the AV player in your squad to start taking it down....his attempts cannot deter the beast. The ship proceeds to hover right above the objective....then you see it....the back door opens and all of a sudden, troops start falling by the dozen....and then....you stand there frozen because of what your seeing.....
A blaster Madrugar dropped from the back of the ship. It starts tearing your squad apart and the other blueberries that so happen to be at the same objective. You start cursing and order all of your squad to retreat and regroup....your squadmates reply that they are either pinned down or dead.....10 seconds later.....the objective falls into red control.
,.... ok . lets point out that we need some kind of countermeasures . maybe a exposed weak spot when it drops people or vehicles off ? |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
370
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:13:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:I love the ideas people are putting foreward, I hope ccp is reading these.
I really want to see it carry troops and a tank I side of it.
Yes we need the bigger maps and more people but just imagine....
You and your squad are defending an objective and the enemy just won't give up.....all of a sudden there is none.....no more raspberries show up. You wonder "what are they planning?"
Then.....you hear it...the hum of a dropship....only....it's a deeper hum...like its a monster dropship. You start looking at the sky trying to spot this monstrosity.
Then over the mountain comes a monstrous looking aircraft, it's got guns all over it. You tell the AV player in your squad to start taking it down....his attempts cannot deter the beast. The ship proceeds to hover right above the objective....then you see it....the back door opens and all of a sudden, troops start falling by the dozen....and then....you stand there frozen because of what your seeing.....
A blaster Madrugar dropped from the back of the ship. It starts tearing your squad apart and the other blueberries that so happen to be at the same objective. You start cursing and order all of your squad to retreat and regroup....your squadmates reply that they are either pinned down or dead.....10 seconds later.....the objective falls into red control. ,.... ok . lets point out that we need some kind of countermeasures . maybe a exposed weak spot when it drops people or vehicles off ? I was thinking tanks and of course AA tanks when we get those turrets.....plus jets will fly circles around this thing, it's not fast so it can't outrun swarm launchers.....plus with al, the proto AV that people are using it would be lucky to fly for over a minute |

forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
92
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:15:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:drake sadani wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:I love the ideas people are putting foreward, I hope ccp is reading these.
I really want to see it carry troops and a tank I side of it.
Yes we need the bigger maps and more people but just imagine....
You and your squad are defending an objective and the enemy just won't give up.....all of a sudden there is none.....no more raspberries show up. You wonder "what are they planning?"
Then.....you hear it...the hum of a dropship....only....it's a deeper hum...like its a monster dropship. You start looking at the sky trying to spot this monstrosity.
Then over the mountain comes a monstrous looking aircraft, it's got guns all over it. You tell the AV player in your squad to start taking it down....his attempts cannot deter the beast. The ship proceeds to hover right above the objective....then you see it....the back door opens and all of a sudden, troops start falling by the dozen....and then....you stand there frozen because of what your seeing.....
A blaster Madrugar dropped from the back of the ship. It starts tearing your squad apart and the other blueberries that so happen to be at the same objective. You start cursing and order all of your squad to retreat and regroup....your squadmates reply that they are either pinned down or dead.....10 seconds later.....the objective falls into red control. ,.... ok . lets point out that we need some kind of countermeasures . maybe a exposed weak spot when it drops people or vehicles off ? I was thinking tanks and of course AA tanks when we get those turrets.....plus jets will fly circles around this thing, it's not fast so it can't outrun swarm launchers.....plus with al, the proto AV that people are using it would be lucky to fly for over a minute Rail tanks, Swarms/FGs, Fighter jets, and assaut dropships pose a threat to these, so I am hoping these things are buffed up air tanks |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
370
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:35:00 -
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Precisely :) |

forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
92
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:49:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Precisely :) picture the image of epicness in your head, Heavy air tanks eating up countless attacks as it slowly loses HP but still devastating the red dots at the objective, a large squad of tanks and AV attacking the air tank, with another fight in the air above the air tank, Dropships and jets fighting it out to protect and some to destroy the air tank
but then again i make it sound like it would be a miniature titan ship XD |

Aelita Dranoch
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:27:00 -
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this thing can probably serve similar purposes like the Uber unit in Halo Wars. cary troops. (maybe tow vehicles like the dropship in Warhawk?) and have an array of hidden weapons lying in the hull waiting to be used. but there would have to be one for the Ammar and Minmatar. |

drake sadani
Tacti-corp
86
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:28:00 -
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Quote: but then again i make it sound like it would be a miniature titan ship XD
why can't it be . make the biggest meanest most terrible model astronomically expensive so whole corps have to pool to buy one and instead of killing it outright who ever brings it down gets a token for one .
make the deployment of this thing a event .
so when you hear the wuuuuuummmm of those massive engines . the first to emotions are fear and awe . and the next emotion is competitive drive to conquer it
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Aelita Dranoch
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:33:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:Quote: but then again i make it sound like it would be a miniature titan ship XD why can't it be . make the biggest meanest most terrible model astronomically expensive so whole corps have to pool to buy one and instead of killing it outright who ever brings it down gets a token for one . make the deployment of this thing a event . so when you hear the wuuuuuummmm of those massive engines . the first to emotions are fear and awe . and the next emotion is competitive drive to conquer it sounds more a like mission against a faction rather than player. i personally dont think that is the best way todo it...but i do like what ur saying when imagine this in my head if that were the case of what u suggested it would be the size of an MCC. meaning we could be fighting this cause it got taken over by rougue drones :) ? but that might be far fetched
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drake sadani
Tacti-corp
86
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:37:00 -
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Aelita Dranoch wrote:drake sadani wrote:Quote: but then again i make it sound like it would be a miniature titan ship XD why can't it be . make the biggest meanest most terrible model astronomically expensive so whole corps have to pool to buy one and instead of killing it outright who ever brings it down gets a token for one . make the deployment of this thing a event . so when you hear the wuuuuuummmm of those massive engines . the first to emotions are fear and awe . and the next emotion is competitive drive to conquer it sounds more a like mission against a faction rather than player. i personally dont think that is the best way todo it...but i do like what ur saying when imagine this in my head  if that were the case of what u suggested it would be the size of an MCC. meaning we could be fighting this cause it got taken over by rougue drones :) ? but that might be far fetched
hmm you might be right we have the idea but not the implementation . |
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drake sadani
Tacti-corp
86
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:39:00 -
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has anyone here played starwars battlefront. and if so do you remember the in space battles where you had the small fighters and bombers . but you could dock with the enemy ship and blow it up from the inside |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
370
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:40:00 -
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I was thinking it would be deployed using 3 RDVs (one in the front, one on each wing)
EDIT: dumb spelling mistakes |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
370
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Posted - 2013.09.10 00:43:00 -
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drake sadani wrote:has anyone here played starwars battlefront. and if so do you remember the in space battles where you had the small fighters and bombers . but you could dock with the enemy ship and blow it up from the inside I love that game mode!!!!!!!! Star Wars battlefront was my favourite game!!!!!!!! |

forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
93
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Posted - 2013.09.10 01:06:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:drake sadani wrote:has anyone here played starwars battlefront. and if so do you remember the in space battles where you had the small fighters and bombers . but you could dock with the enemy ship and blow it up from the inside I love that game mode!!!!!!!! Star Wars battlefront was my favourite game!!!!!!!! star wars battlefront is amazingly epix!
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3567
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Posted - 2013.09.10 01:13:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I was looking through general discussion and found a thread that had a link to this artists creations. After flipping through some of the artwork at the topi found this pic of what looks like a heavy aircraft bomber. Please use this design!!!!! Also, look through some other pieces of his, he's an amazing artist and has some cool looking stuff that would make Dust awesome!!!!! EDIT: what do you guys think of this vehicle being able to carry tanks and other vehicles inside of it? So it would fly around dropping tanks or jeeps etc on the battlefield. Pretty sure this isn't related to Dust, but some heavier aircraft might be neat. |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
371
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Posted - 2013.09.10 01:29:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:I was looking through general discussion and found a thread that had a link to this artists creations. After flipping through some of the artwork at the topi found this pic of what looks like a heavy aircraft bomber. Please use this design!!!!! Also, look through some other pieces of his, he's an amazing artist and has some cool looking stuff that would make Dust awesome!!!!! EDIT: what do you guys think of this vehicle being able to carry tanks and other vehicles inside of it? So it would fly around dropping tanks or jeeps etc on the battlefield. Pretty sure this isn't related to Dust, but some heavier aircraft might be neat. Doesn't have to be related to dust, I want them to base at least the Caldari design off of this thing, it looks epic!!!! |

forteXVI
89th Infantry Division
94
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Posted - 2013.09.10 01:35:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:I was looking through general discussion and found a thread that had a link to this artists creations. After flipping through some of the artwork at the topi found this pic of what looks like a heavy aircraft bomber. Please use this design!!!!! Also, look through some other pieces of his, he's an amazing artist and has some cool looking stuff that would make Dust awesome!!!!! EDIT: what do you guys think of this vehicle being able to carry tanks and other vehicles inside of it? So it would fly around dropping tanks or jeeps etc on the battlefield. Pretty sure this isn't related to Dust, but some heavier aircraft might be neat. Doesn't have to be related to dust, I want them to base at least the Caldari design off of this thing, it looks epic!!!! and has presence in the battle field |

Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
375
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:41:00 -
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^^^ definitely true...if I saw one of those suckers coming at me....I would run like crazy |

Aelita Dranoch
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.09.11 02:56:00 -
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forteXVI wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:drake sadani wrote:has anyone here played starwars battlefront. and if so do you remember the in space battles where you had the small fighters and bombers . but you could dock with the enemy ship and blow it up from the inside I love that game mode!!!!!!!! Star Wars battlefront was my favourite game!!!!!!!! star wars battlefront is amazingly epix! YES one of the best games i ever owned. but what if we could make it Minmatar in Design. seeing as how they make more 'crude' and 'rough' designs. it would make sense then it would look more terryfing than anything. it might definently have to be a faction mission, like destroying it from the factory its made it to prevent deployment. however it cannot over power our current MCC's (even though theyll probably be buffed in next build) once u sort that out u can cover the players interaction with such a vessel |

Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
137
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:06:00 -
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I think some of the posters here are a little confused. I don't think anyone is advocating these be implemented tomorrow and we be left to what we have now to counter them. I mean seriously, an ADS should not be able to take one of these down. It should barely be able to keep up. All an ADS is is a stripped down and up-gunned troop transport. It is not a true attack craft or it would not have 2 passenger seats.
To the topic, I would think heavy aircraft would be something like a B-17. It would have small turrets all around and take a full squad to man every station. Also it should be tough as nails.
I think it would be cool to have 2 variants for it as well. One could be a bomber with the ability to drop heavy ordinance, or eventually be able to mount a weapon that could deal significant damage to an MCC. Not significant like killing it in 5 shots but maybe each hit takes out 1 bar of health. Think Independence Day when the B-2 launches the nuke at the alien ship. Bombs could be like a stasis field effect that slows everyone down in an area for a given period, or a flux field that takes down your shields when you go into the area, or maybe a nanite cloud that does DoT armor damage while in the area, perhaps a sensor damping field that makes scanning impossible. The "bombs" don't have to be limited to just big explosions and straight damage. Also you might be able to mount a few large precision bombs or a lot of smaller and less powerful saturation type bombs for different applications.
The second, I'm thinking super transport. It would still have several small turrets but would be able to carry actual passengers and even heavy equipment like tanks or LAVs and MAVs when they come along. They would be for dropping a combat ready team into an area to quickly cause trouble.
And if you fancy a third type, maybe we can exchange some of the small turrets and the ability to mount bombs or haul passengers for the ability to mouths a couple of large turrets on one side to make like an AC-130 gunship.
And for a fourth that just came to me, make it similar to variant 1 only less turrets and more fragile and for that you get stealth. It would be harder to lock on with weapons like swarms, engines would be quieter and it would be more difficult to find by scanning.
So the first variant would be your standard and the other 3 would be like the specialized variants of the other vehicles in terms of skill tree. These things would be tough, dish out tons of damage, and be basically the ideal tool for tearing down an enemy's defenses in an area. On the other hand, they should be big, slow, EXPENSIVE (like 10 mil a piece kind of expensive) and should be very vulnerable to fighters.
But all this really needs to wait until teams get bigger and the game gets more strategic with much bigger maps. |
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