im a scout and recently i havent been able to enjoy this game because of aim assist. (i run with a shotgun and nova knife) could you please get rid of aim assist until your able to put it into the game correctly like maybe do something like academy where you only have aim assist until a certain amount of warpoints?

Assault Rifle, by which I mean the Blaster Rifle (or whatever they want to call it) dominates mid-short range and short-range, does okay in mid-range, relatively useless at mid-long and totally useless at long.

Scrambler Rifle dominates the mid-ranges with decreasing effectiveness the further away you get from mid-mid-range, including mid-long, mid, and mid-short. Can work at short range, but not very effective (other weapons dominate, weapon characteristics fail it), and also doesn't do well at long range (all relative for normal ranges, so excluding Sniper Rifles and such)

Laser Rifle is kind of a specialty weapon, so less versatility, but extreme effectiveness (like the shotgun). Crushes at long range, can go to mid-long range and not be useless, getting more and more worthless as you get closer and closer.

And that's just for the weapons proposed. An example of one not mentioned, would be the shotgun, like the LR, specialty, so it should crush at short range, even vs. an AR.

So many people complain about aim assist... how do you even know your enemy used it? Maybe he didn't. Maybe he's jsut good with a controller. Or maybe he's using K/M. Blaming it on aimassist in Dust seems to be the same like saying everybody is a cheater in other games.

im a scout and recently i havent been able to enjoy this game because of aim assist. (i run with a shotgun and nova knife) could you please get rid of aim assist until your able to put it into the game correctly like maybe do something like academy where you only have aim assist until a certain amount of warpoints?

aim assist is fine... remember they fixed hit detection... this is your real issue...adapt.

We claim an aim assist problem because there was a dramatic change in how easily we got shot up that coincided with the launch of 1.4. We don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what happened.

aim assist is fine... remember they fixed hit detection... this is your real issue...adapt.

apparently you do have to be Sherlock... holmes would tell you its because they fixed hit detection....

Yeah, sure, that's it.

A little story.

Buddy of mine uses KBD/M exclusively and hes a better killer than I am.

Normally he goes 15/2 or some similar score line, dependent on enemies, as it always is.

After 1.4 hes going 1/10 if hes lucky.

So he tries out the PS3 controller with aim assist on, remember he hasn't used the controller for fighting with.

Now he's going 10/1 and 15/4, that sort of score line. After a couple of matches.

It is not even remotely just hit detection.

Telling us to harden up when KBD/M have been screwed even more ... Wow.

Saying it twice doesn't make it true

im a scout and recently i havent been able to enjoy this game because of aim assist. (i run with a shotgun and nova knife) could you please get rid of aim assist until your able to put it into the game correctly like maybe do something like academy where you only have aim assist until a certain amount of warpoints?

sure your "friend" did this... video or it didn't happen...what I think?

youre a kb/m user and your salty cause the field got leveled so youre spreading BS in hopes CCP will hand you a tissue...

Yes, my friend, I can't use a PS3 controller at all. It is your sort of attitude that made so many of us leave D-UNI recently, but that is a story for another time.

Leveled? I didn't realise that controller guys were having trouble killing people to the point that they needed training wheels.

But hey, whatever, I'm sure that you don't use AA at all and it's not an issue for you.

So if Aim Assist is not actually helping then perhaps both KBD/M users and controller users could have it, at differing levels of stickiness dependent on perceived or (gasp) measured bonus?

Or AA could be completely turned off after people get out of academy?

Both control methods have pros and cons.

If KBD/M is so awesome it will only cost you a couple of dollars for a set ..... I haven't heard any corps mandating that their top tier players use KBD/M? Perhaps I'm not as well informed as some? If they are so good why are you crazy people persisting in using the stupid controller?? I'm surprised with the willingness for everyone to jump in to the FOTM with both boots that everyone is not using KBD/M by now.

And yes, I'm adapting, thank you for your shouted concern, so kind of you.

lol the uni did nothing but teach you all how to play this game and you returned that favor with bitterness and deceit...

... etc etc...

good luck out there o7

Bitterness and decipt? I decided to move on of my own free will without any prompting from the people who left before me and find out I'm not allowed into public chat because apparently I'm obviously a deceitful evil person.

So in that case there was an assumption that I was bad, no one asked me why I left, like anyone who left at that time I was banned from public chat of D-UNI

just like in your previous post where .. there was an assumption that I was bad, and inherently deceitful.

And you repeat it again here ....

You really should work on your transferrence issues, they can be hard to identify.

You are not a bad person, just behaving badly, and being quite rude about it too. I do hope it doesn't poison any potential D-UNI people out there because D-UNI is bigger than just one poor attitude. And I'm sure you will calm down and get reasonable again when all this Q.Q is over.

I followed the corp orders to the letter, even posting in 101st that as I had left the corp I was removing myself from 101st chat, which I then did. The guys I played with moved on and so did I. Only then did I find out about how badly others had been treated and got only the smallest taste myself.

Its a big shame that those of us who thought we left on good terms were instantly banned and unable to play with the UNI people, perhaps even come back and teach as guest lecturers.

Oh, and if you haven't been told, Molon Labe knew nothing about all the people coming over, thought you guys were awesome and were going to give D-UNI a district.

Until you opened your mouths and placed both feet firmly inside.

----x----- Enough Q.Q distractions -----x----

Hit detection, I can see that the hit box problems could be making things worse than they are, especially the bullet lag / getting hit behind corners problem when you are trying to retreat, something I notice a lot. You poor heavies, I see you dieing out there and commiserate.

Considering there was an event timed with the 1.4 changes and lots and lots of ambush matches were played I expect that CCP will have a lot of data to go through. And then the AA will be tweaked and there will be more complaints, etc etc, until they get it about right.

I feel the frustration.

I'd say it's not just aim assist. I'd throw hit detection in as part of the problem as well.
Now, I'm saying this as a heavy. My hit box is huge (comparetively).
Before 1.4, I was regularly going 10-20/1-8 with some work. With 1.4 I get crushed on a
regular basis. Part of that is me learning the new maps, sure, part of it is the aim assist, sure.
But part of it is also it seems impossible to miss me in a heavy suit unless whoever is shooting
is under duress, terrible or oblivious to the aiming mechanics.

Now, testing the aiming assist myself (for whatever that's worth) I've found it very noticeable
with some weapons (laser, AR) and almost non existant on others (hmg, shotgun). What I also
noticed was that, with AA turned off, I was landing more shots than I use to, but since I was
running a heavy all they needed to do was turn and unload the mag at me and I'd die first.
Hmg dispersion vs. AR dispersion + differences in hitboxes + AA for AR/hmg discrepencies
= dead heavy.
Why is that? The heavies hitbox(s) is/are massive.
It's bad enough that I'm done playing as a heavy.
Point is it's not just AA. Hit detection is a major contributer to the problem as well.
My 0.02.