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KingBabar wrote:

Rei Shepard wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore.....

Trollolol

We had an advantage ? When ? This game has since the beginning put KBM users down like a rabid dog, limits to all kinds of aiming mechanics, at some point the removed direct mouse input and overlayed a DS3 stick, it took me 30-40 seconds to get my nano hive out at that point because it only went up and left 90% of the time.

Turn speed limits, ADS as slow as a snail walking on salt, each patch my muscle memory freaks out and if i go back to my pc shooters i cant aim for crap anymore because i got used to having 15 FPS and a locked down ADS system.

Ive gone from on my PC games 90% + accuracy down to 40% because ive been playing DUST 514 for 7 months...normally you get better when muscle memory sets in...not worse...

They should have left the system alone during chromosone and just fixed hit detection, everything was fine there...

But really man, I want what youve been smoking!

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Well l'm no expert but its fairly obvious that the guys with the best AIM all are KBM users. Take Tosh, Jack Boost, Trollsroyce, Deranged Disaster and not least Edrot as examples l know very well from SI, going up against any of these earlier was next to impossible in a straight out 1vs1. And l mean in a ranged gunfight.

Now however.... It might be that the KBM got some kind of nerf at some point which l don't know about, in which case l take back what l said. All l know is that with the current system l would actually have a chance 1vs1 against these guys back in the days.

A friend of mine, Gauder, CEO of the DBDs switched over from pad to KBM after using the pad for 10 years, he claimed that KBM was superior in every way except for the placement of the nade button. But l haven't tried myself.

And yes, l believe you would like to get aa puff of what l'm smoking...

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Toyboi Seraphim Initiative.. 110	Posted - 2013.09.07 11:47:00 - [1] - Quote So you say you fix aiming and are really exited about this new great patch called 1.4! i dont know anyone who uses kb/m who is happy with the new aim! in fairnes the hip fire is okay slightly below avarage but the ads is too sensetive. i dont get how you can make a new system but at the same time not adjust the values so they atleast remind of the old sensetivity it would require minimum effort of testing! This is a FPS so i think its about time you get your prioreties straight! then there is the autoaim! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMqe6MhXY6Y this video just makes me cry. But what can you expect when ccp comes out with a statement that it works really well in internal testing... its no secret that none of the ccp guys have skills when it comes to this game! ccp logibro proved me wrong when i said the dident play it at all, they do but still a left handed monky would do better with less skillpoints Do you really have any idea where you wonna take this game ccp? i might be alone with this opinion about urgent furry: No tea bagging no swearing no this no that.. wtf this is a game about shooting people in the face!!?? its worse to teabag or swear at someone then to shoot them? not even to mention the suicide reference ingame its okay too?? i get you are desperet ccp but to sell out like this is just !facepalm! there is to many people posting on this forum with opinions based on lack of understanding and skill yes i said it noobs STFU! kingbabar made a post where he requested a forum section for vets it got instalocked GJ ccp!! then there is scotty you take time to program the popup maybe that time would have been better spent on actually ironing out the errors with the system? ( i now its a small thing but it all adds up)
Blaze Ashra O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M. 66	Posted - 2013.09.07 11:56:00 - [2] - Quote http://www.unrealengine.com/udk/ I'd like to you do better.
KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1124	Posted - 2013.09.07 12:27:00 - [3] - Quote So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol
RevoItZ Red Star. EoN. 242	Posted - 2013.09.07 12:46:00 - [4] - Quote Hipfire on KB/M is improved but the ADS seems delayed to me. That video I didn't know it was that bad. "kingbabar made a post where he requested a forum section for vets it got instalocked GJ ccp!!" A vet section would be kick ass, why would CCP lock the post lol. Aim assist needs to be toned down, its ridiculous the amount of times I died to noobs with militia ARs/SMG last night just because they had aim assist doing most of the work lol
richiesutie 2 Seraphim Auxiliaries 285	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:10:00 - [5] - Quote KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. :P
KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1126	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:14:00 - [6] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. And what is that supposed to mean? Ask Toiboi yourself if he consider me to have any gungame....
Ynned Ivanova Bragian Order Amarr Empire 69	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:14:00 - [7] - Quote Lols Seraquim .
richiesutie 2 Seraphim Auxiliaries 285	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:15:00 - [8] - Quote KingBabar wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. And what is that supposed to mean? Ask Toiboi yourself if he consider me to have any gungame.... You made a post a while back about people not shooting you.
RevoItZ Red Star. EoN. 243	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:18:00 - [9] - Quote KingBabar wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. And what is that supposed to mean? Ask Toiboi yourself if he consider me to have any gungame.... Hes calling you out KingBabar, I heard him whisper in a squad yesterday "KingBabar has no gun game, so he just spams nades, he carries 3 different hives to restock" I quickly dismissed this and said "KingBabar has wicked good gun game" :P
KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1126	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:20:00 - [10] - Quote richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. And what is that supposed to mean? Ask Toiboi yourself if he consider me to have any gungame.... You made a post a while back about people not shooting you. Right, my bad. Yes l do love the games where l have players of his caliber on the opposing team. +1 For making me jump to the wrong conclusion...

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 490	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:22:00 - [11] - Quote RevoItZ wrote: Hipfire on KB/M is improved but the ADS seems delayed to me. That video I didn't know it was that bad. "kingbabar made a post where he requested a forum section for vets it got instalocked GJ ccp!!" A vet section would be kick ass, why would CCP lock the post lol. Aim assist needs to be toned down, its ridiculous the amount of times I died to noobs with militia ARs/SMG last night just because they had aim assist doing most of the work lol imo hip fire is still awful on kb/m unless you have your sensitivity turned extremely low you aren't able to perform fine movments in cqc.. I think its hilarious seeing DS3 users complain about kb/m users crying that we don't have the advantage aiming.... We haven't had the advantage since chromosome, (and even then DS3 users were top of the leader board) even with uprising the DS3 was far more accurate in CQC, but now it seems DS3 users think since their controller aims for them KB/M users should still suffer... News flash KB/M users have always had to control their aim, if and when CCP ever gets the kb/m correct, wtf excuses will DS3 users have then.... ? But but your kb/m out performed my console aiming for me...... get real.. Edit: Only the first sentence is the response to RevoltZ lol the other is just me ranting
KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1126	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:22:00 - [12] - Quote RevoItZ wrote: KingBabar wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. And what is that supposed to mean? Ask Toiboi yourself if he consider me to have any gungame.... Hes calling you out KingBabar, I heard him whisper in a squad yesterday "KingBabar has no gun game, so he just spams nades, he carries 3 different hives to restock" I quickly dismissed this and said "KingBabar has wicked good gun game" :P Dunno about that, but l'm definately in the top 20% of my current corp.....
Rei Shepard Spectre II 506	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:24:00 - [13] - Quote KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol We had an advantage ? When ? This game has since the beginning put KBM users down like a rabid dog, limits to all kinds of aiming mechanics, at some point the removed direct mouse input and overlayed a DS3 stick, it took me 30-40 seconds to get my nano hive out at that point because it only went up and left 90% of the time. Turn speed limits, ADS as slow as a snail walking on salt, each patch my muscle memory freaks out and if i go back to my pc shooters i cant aim for crap anymore because i got used to having 15 FPS and a locked down ADS system. Ive gone from on my PC games 90% + accuracy down to 40% because ive been playing DUST 514 for 7 months...normally you get better when muscle memory sets in...not worse... They should have left the system alone during chromosone and just fixed hit detection, everything was fine there... But really man, I want what youve been smoking!
Boxoffire Ninth Legion Freelance Top Men. 83	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:25:00 - [14] - Quote I'm a KBM user and I love this update :) That is all I have to say, lol
richiesutie 2 Seraphim Auxiliaries 287	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:29:00 - [15] - Quote RevoItZ wrote: KingBabar wrote: richiesutie 2 wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol At least he shoots people. And what is that supposed to mean? Ask Toiboi yourself if he consider me to have any gungame.... Hes calling you out KingBabar, I heard him whisper in a squad yesterday "KingBabar has no gun game, so he just spams nades, he carries 3 different hives to restock" I quickly dismissed this and said "KingBabar has wicked good gun game" :P Like i would squad with EON scum.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 507	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:30:00 - [16] - Quote Boxoffire wrote: I'm a KBM user and I love this update :) That is all I have to say, lol Its a step in the right direction, but we aint there yet for KBM.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 594	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:31:00 - [17] - Quote KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol I wonder what happened them. I'm a K/M-User and I get more kills than ever since the patch.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 406	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:37:00 - [18] - Quote KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol KB/M users at least required skill....while DS3 users are only good because they have a crutch. People who like aim assist (because they suddenly don't suck anymore) are people who ride to like bikes with training wheels.
RevoItZ Red Star. EoN. 244	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:40:00 - [19] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol I wonder what happened them. I'm a K/M-User and I get more kills than ever since the patch. Opposite for me! I'm even more of a scrub :( Btw Bolsh, my sensitivity is at 40, I've changed the DPI on my mouse.... no idea whats it at lol KB/M felt right on Chromosome, I dunno why people think KB/M>DS3 on Uprising, we've had nothing but limitations, controller simulation and silly restrictions. If you think KB/M>DS3, look at some of the best players in the game, 13ear, Protoman(I know he doesn't play anymore), Extacy cravings, Alldin, top players from SI/WTF/AE/TP, you'll only find a few out of those corps that use KB/M, its all DS3 The legendary Kcon uses DS3 and hes a monster!
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 2296	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:42:00 - [20] - Quote Meh. Thats what a Vet section would be, meh. A load of people talking about animals and how to treat sick dogs, cats or whatever? Doesn't sound that cool to me.

KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1126	Posted - 2013.09.07 13:44:00 - [21] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol We had an advantage ? When ? This game has since the beginning put KBM users down like a rabid dog, limits to all kinds of aiming mechanics, at some point the removed direct mouse input and overlayed a DS3 stick, it took me 30-40 seconds to get my nano hive out at that point because it only went up and left 90% of the time. Turn speed limits, ADS as slow as a snail walking on salt, each patch my muscle memory freaks out and if i go back to my pc shooters i cant aim for crap anymore because i got used to having 15 FPS and a locked down ADS system. Ive gone from on my PC games 90% + accuracy down to 40% because ive been playing DUST 514 for 7 months...normally you get better when muscle memory sets in...not worse... They should have left the system alone during chromosone and just fixed hit detection, everything was fine there... But really man, I want what youve been smoking! 0 Well l'm no expert but its fairly obvious that the guys with the best AIM all are KBM users. Take Tosh, Jack Boost, Trollsroyce, Deranged Disaster and not least Edrot as examples l know very well from SI, going up against any of these earlier was next to impossible in a straight out 1vs1. And l mean in a ranged gunfight. Now however.... It might be that the KBM got some kind of nerf at some point which l don't know about, in which case l take back what l said. All l know is that with the current system l would actually have a chance 1vs1 against these guys back in the days. A friend of mine, Gauder, CEO of the DBDs switched over from pad to KBM after using the pad for 10 years, he claimed that KBM was superior in every way except for the placement of the nade button. But l haven't tried myself. And yes, l believe you would like to get aa puff of what l'm smoking...
Toyboi Seraphim Initiative.. 114	Posted - 2013.09.07 14:04:00 - [22] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: [quote=KingBabar]So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol And yes, l believe you would like to get aa puff of what l'm smoking... I want a puff of what ccp is smoking cause i only smoke the strongest of the strongest
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1031	Posted - 2013.09.07 14:06:00 - [23] - Quote Toyboi, will you be sending me more QQ followed by you going 2/3 with less than 300 WP in the very next match?
KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1126	Posted - 2013.09.07 14:08:00 - [24] - Quote Toyboi wrote: KingBabar wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: [quote=KingBabar]So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol And yes, l believe you would like to get aa puff of what l'm smoking... I want a puff of what ccp is smoking cause i only smoke the strongest of the strongest I've never been to Denmark, now l suddenly got the "craving".
Toyboi Seraphim Initiative.. 117	Posted - 2013.09.07 15:20:00 - [25] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Toyboi, will you be sending me more QQ followed by you going 2/3 with less than 300 WP in the very next match? atleast im not a stat groomer... and you usually lose when we go 1v1 so maybe you should let it go before you dig a deeper hole. im not even gonna go into the pc match we played once..
lrian Locust DUST University Ivy League 76	Posted - 2013.09.07 15:23:00 - [26] - Quote Toyboi wrote: i dont know anyone who uses kb/m who is happy with the new aim! I don't know anyone who uses kb/m period!
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1033	Posted - 2013.09.07 15:31:00 - [27] - Quote Toyboi wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Toyboi, will you be sending me more QQ followed by you going 2/3 with less than 300 WP in the very next match? atleast im not a stat groomer... and you usually lose when we go 1v1 so maybe you should let it go before you dig a deeper hole. im not even gonna go into the pc match we played once.. Well let's see... Stat padder - well not really, I can't care less about my personal stats. Also last I checked I run solo all the time, which means my W/L ratio suffers heavily. I'm sure I would run in squads constantly if I cared that much about my stats. 1v1s - I didn't know this game was all about the individual gun battles instead of teamwork. My fittings usually aren't 100% combat optimised (unlike yours I might add), but despite that I can still hold my own pretty efficiently. PC match - oh, you mean the giant lagfest those matches are? Also last I checked we won the most matches between us. Please send me more QQ. Just make sure you don't go 2/3 the very next match
Toyboi Seraphim Initiative.. 120	Posted - 2013.09.07 15:51:00 - [28] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Toyboi wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: Toyboi, will you be sending me more QQ followed by you going 2/3 with less than 300 WP in the very next match? atleast im not a stat groomer... and you usually lose when we go 1v1 so maybe you should let it go before you dig a deeper hole. im not even gonna go into the pc match we played once.. Well let's see... Stat padder - well not really, I can't care less about my personal stats. Also last I checked I run solo all the time, which means my W/L ratio suffers heavily. I'm sure I would run in squads constantly if I cared that much about my stats. 1v1s - I didn't know this game was all about the individual gun battles instead of teamwork. My fittings usually aren't 100% combat optimised (unlike yours I might add), but despite that I can still hold my own pretty efficiently. PC match - oh, you mean the giant lagfest those matches are? Also last I checked we won the most matches between us. Please send me more QQ. Just make sure you don't go 2/3 the very next match me being supriesed that you dident leave the match after dieing 2 times is hardly qq.. but buthurt...
Rei Shepard Spectre II 519	Posted - 2013.09.07 20:25:00 - [29] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: KingBabar wrote: So the poor KBM user doesn't have his aim advantage anymore..... Trollolol We had an advantage ? When ? This game has since the beginning put KBM users down like a rabid dog, limits to all kinds of aiming mechanics, at some point the removed direct mouse input and overlayed a DS3 stick, it took me 30-40 seconds to get my nano hive out at that point because it only went up and left 90% of the time. Turn speed limits, ADS as slow as a snail walking on salt, each patch my muscle memory freaks out and if i go back to my pc shooters i cant aim for crap anymore because i got used to having 15 FPS and a locked down ADS system. Ive gone from on my PC games 90% + accuracy down to 40% because ive been playing DUST 514 for 7 months...normally you get better when muscle memory sets in...not worse... They should have left the system alone during chromosone and just fixed hit detection, everything was fine there... But really man, I want what youve been smoking! 0 Well l'm no expert but its fairly obvious that the guys with the best AIM all are KBM users. Take Tosh, Jack Boost, Trollsroyce, Deranged Disaster and not least Edrot as examples l know very well from SI, going up against any of these earlier was next to impossible in a straight out 1vs1. And l mean in a ranged gunfight. Now however.... It might be that the KBM got some kind of nerf at some point which l don't know about, in which case l take back what l said. All l know is that with the current system l would actually have a chance 1vs1 against these guys back in the days. A friend of mine, Gauder, CEO of the DBDs switched over from pad to KBM after using the pad for 10 years, he claimed that KBM was superior in every way except for the placement of the nade button. But l haven't tried myself. And yes, l believe you would like to get aa puff of what l'm smoking... So today, after never having touched my DS3, well ...only to start the game and twiddle with it and by never i mean No FPS games as a i play other games on my PS3 that well cant go without a DS3 and i think everyone knows i am very fond towards my keyboard and mouse, if i have to play this game with a DS3 ...pls kill me.. So first game i hit 34/4 ...not too shabby with a Semi Scrambler Rifle, next game we crank out 43/3 and i am rolling one 30+ game after the other at some point i lost count... Ussually me and Madlax are very close in points when we team up, but tonight he called me a Monster....i do pretty good with KBM on good games in the low 20's and some other random guy called me Scary, noone calls me scary in Dust 514 and tears in the mail are few and far appart, as for when i am playing a PC shooter i get about 4 - 6 tearmails or pm's about how i must be hacking an hour, but when you pretty much never miss with a sniper rifle in cqc (APB R) you get allot of hate. I got 20 years of FPS under my belt with KBM, but this game is so limited to KBM support that it feels like i am playing with my feet, both hands strapped to my back, while my nuts are tied around my neck, sorry i cant explain how this feels. I was still doing fairly good againt DS3 users so i didnt think the Aim Assist was that bad or how bad the DS3 is supposed to be vs our KBM, but after having tasted how a DS3 feels....so after i saw the movie of the magnetism i wanted to give it a shot. Well damn...i want my Mouse to perform just like it .... But it does feel way off that by just picking it up my kills go up by 15 a round...on average.
KingBabar Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1138	Posted - 2013.09.07 21:13:00 - [30] - Quote @ Rei. I really don't know, that much is obvious. Did something happen with the 1.4 patch to KBM or is it just that ds3 "got buffed"? Do you agree that earlier, during the beta atleast, KBM was superior in terms of aiming with a somewhat reduced fluidity to general movement? Atleast we're now rid of the "stay in the same spot while strafing superfast from siden to side" exploit that many KBM players have been abusing since KBM was introduced to Dust.



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