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S Park Finner
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
254
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:32:00 -
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I haven't been able to find a Dev statement on when additional ways to get SP (like for scanning or counter hacking) will be added.
Dropship pilots and logistics players have had the worst of it, but there are a lot of threads about it and it's getting worse. An example is the new emphasis on scanning -- important to the team but no direct reward to the player who scans.
Has anyone heard from CCP when a re-work is scheduled? 1.5, 1.6, 1.7 ... no word? |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P C C P Alliance
1917
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:44:00 -
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In 1.5 |
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
570
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:45:00 -
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Can you tell us the specifics of what actions get War Points? |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
327
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:45:00 -
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i also want WP for reloading my weapon and when i jump |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
737
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:45:00 -
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/hands wolfman honeyed lamb |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
712
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:46:00 -
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dropship WP rewards are schedualed for 1.5 and i do believe that some other new WP rewards will be squaked in there as well
(devs have stated they really want some form of reward for the active scanner but its going to be tricky to balance, WP for every scanned target would add up, WP for every scan or WP counted as kill assists have all been proposed, the trick will be to figure out something that cant be abused) |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
327
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:46:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Can you tell us the specifics of what actions get War Points?
any move aslong as you dont AFK
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S Park Finner
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
258
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:10:00 -
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Many thanks.
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Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1432
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:15:00 -
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But I thought you get ISK based off what you destroy. So even if you make 2000 WP off logistics related actions, you'll still get the smallest cut of the ISk cake? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3763
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:24:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:But I thought you get ISK based off what you destroy. So even if you make 2000 WP off logistics related actions, you'll still get the smallest cut of the ISk cake? The total ISK "pot" for each team is based on the value of enemy gear destroyed. Each player's share of the "pot" is based on their WP earnings.
CCP haven't confirmed the specific values that influence the "pot", but have said it's a fixed value plus a variable that's based on the destruction value of enemies, and that there's a modifier applied depending on whether your team won or not. From there, each player's reward is based on their performance, but the only thing confirmed to make a difference is WP. your kill count, or possible K/D might also have relevance, and it's possible being in the top 3 scoring players or something else might be a factor as well. There's also a fixed minimum value paid out to each player in a match, so you never get absolutely nothing.
I think I remember them saying the "fixed" value is actually time-based, so if you're there for the entire match, you get a bigger share than if you're only in a match for long enough to see the victory screen. |
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3210
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:38:00 -
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How about 'dat rollover SP? |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
132
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:41:00 -
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I love 1.4, but it's 1.5 that I've been eagerly awaiting for a long time. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
552
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:44:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:But I thought you get ISK based off what you destroy. So even if you make 2000 WP off logistics related actions, you'll still get the smallest cut of the ISk cake? The total ISK "pot" for each team is based on the value of enemy gear destroyed. Each player's share of the "pot" is based on their WP earnings. CCP haven't confirmed the specific values that influence the "pot", but have said it's a fixed value plus a variable that's based on the destruction value of enemies, and that there's a modifier applied depending on whether your team won or not. From there, each player's reward is based on their performance, but the only thing confirmed to make a difference is WP. your kill count, or possible K/D might also have relevance, and it's possible being in the top 3 scoring players or something else might be a factor as well. There's also a fixed minimum value paid out to each player in a match, so you never get absolutely nothing. I think I remember them saying the "fixed" value is actually time-based, so if you're there for the entire match, you get a bigger share than if you're only in a match for long enough to see the victory screen. To sum that up. If you win AND you are high on the totem pole of WP, then you get a butt load of isk. Meta level is rank that effects the isk pot to my knowledge. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3767
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:56:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:To sum that up. If you win AND you are high on the totem pole of WP, then you get a butt load of isk. If the other team uses high-tier gear and dies lots, you get even more.
Quote:Meta level is rank that effects the isk pot to my knowledge. And that's good to know. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
389
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:02:00 -
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Remember wolfman Give drop ships an eject all PASSENGERS button. So that we get remove afkers from our drop ships. |
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CCP Wolfman
C C P C C P Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:46:00 -
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Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) |
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Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1447
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:47:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
=D |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1707
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:50:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
Hell. Yes. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
220
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:03:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) I cant wait |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
5777
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:12:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) mobile CRU spawns need to be included as well, though that may be included in the dropship transport thing. Headshot extra WP doesn't seem necessary though, getting a faster kill is its own reward. I would also suggest making assists proportional to damage dellt. |
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Gloomy Cobra
Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers
46
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:27:00 -
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Can you also bring back the ability to see vehicles shields and armor bar? Because for some reason when 1.4 hit when i use my remote armor repair and shield transporter to help out squad/team vehilces i cant see their health bar. If i can't see their hp, it would be a little harder to time when i need to go in and help them with repairs. Right now they have to tell me if they need shields or armor but before 1.4 i can see their hp and time when i should go in and see if they are still under fire....Please reply |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2285
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:34:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) mobile CRU spawns need to be included as well, though that may be included in the dropship transport thing. Headshot extra WP doesn't seem necessary though, getting a faster kill is its own reward. I would also suggest making assists proportional to damage dellt.
This. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
571
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:35:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
yay! |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:37:00 -
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Anyway you guys could stop rewarding WP for unclaimed turrets? It is a ridiculously large WP farm for tankers and forge gunners. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:38:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
I like to see rewards for killing an enemy that almost killed a teammate , for killing enemies near or hacking a(allied) installations , and killing enemies that are (heavily) damaging an allied vehicle . |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1495
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:40:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) did you test remote explosive for possible boosting? other than that there isn't much that should be a problem with any of it besides bad coding on scanning. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2026
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:57:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
Are you going to add anything to encourage mercs to be transported by dropship? If not, adding pilot points won't do much good. You will just have pilots waiting around like empty taxis. |
Skybladev2
RUST 415 RUST415
33
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Posted - 2013.09.06 06:02:00 -
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Should add vehicle/installation repair WP.
2Skihids I hope they mean WP for spawning inside vehicle, not moving merc's bodies... |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Auxiliaries
253
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:41:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) OMG. Can't wait for next build!
Next: allow mercs to fire their weapons from a DS and gave pilot assists for that as well. ;-) |
Slender Night
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
4
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:25:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) mobile CRU spawns need to be included as well, though that may be included in the dropship transport thing. Headshot extra WP doesn't seem necessary though, getting a faster kill is its own reward. I would also suggest making assists proportional to damage dellt.
also the rewarding ping sound that makes you crap your pants when your not expecting it is a good reward for a headahot. personally i dont need a bonus for a headshot kill. |
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demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
175
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:36:00 -
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can we also get WP for using shield/armor transporters on anything but NPC installations and LAVs give me some incentive to spider tank |
RedZer0 MK1
Opus Arcana
36
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:37:00 -
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So with headshot wp bonus, explosive weapons won't qualify? |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
175
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:37:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) youre going to marry me whether you like it or not |
Sarducar Kahn
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
96
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:42:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) mobile CRU spawns need to be included as well, though that may be included in the dropship transport thing. Headshot extra WP doesn't seem necessary though, getting a faster kill is its own reward. I would also suggest making assists proportional to damage dellt.
Please no headshot WP it's just a sniper buff.not dying is enough of a reward for snipers |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
766
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Posted - 2013.09.06 09:30:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) *twothumbsup!* |
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I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
810
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Posted - 2013.09.06 09:53:00 -
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Um...I already make enough wp per match to get an orbital by myself. I fluctuate between 2000-3000 per match right now.
With scanning that bumps it up to maybe 3000 on average? Headshot bonus 3250 average? Equipment destruction 3500 average?
So...3000-4000 wp per match...omg yes. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
810
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Posted - 2013.09.06 09:54:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:So with headshot wp bonus, explosive weapons won't qualify?
Probably not. But LAV headshots should still be applicable.
Don't ask me how I managed to get one the other day. It was too awesome. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1244
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:01:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
One sec need new underware.
... Better start learning how to use that scanner lol |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
166
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:24:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
Please accept my humble offering of virtual lamb oh benevolent one. :D |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
352
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:35:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-) how aboot WP when someone spawns in yo LAV when you have CRU equipped?
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
354
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:36:00 -
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yeahh , who needs squads , OS everywhere , LMAO CCP has no clue unless you get 1 WP for scanning not more
if its 1WP for scanning i agree , if not srsly stop developing Dust514 and give it to someone who knows what they doing
you torture us with yo patches , with every patch you bring a major gameplay change , how do you expect to keep ppl when you take away their "toys" with every patch? |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Auxiliaries
254
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:06:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:yeahh , who needs squads , OS everywhere , LMAO CCP has no clue unless you get 1 WP for scanning not more
if its 1WP for scanning i agree , if not srsly stop developing Dust514 and give it to someone who knows what they doing
you torture us with yo patches , with every patch you bring a major gameplay change , how do you expect to keep ppl when you take away their "toys" with every patch? Not sure if trolling, but I'm pretty sure it will work as kill assist, not "WP for pressing R1 every few seconds."
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1238
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:11:00 -
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I hope spider tanking gets WP also
OB WP price should be increased tho for the changes or just scrapped |
Theresa Rohk
The Cuddlefish Templis Dragonaors
37
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Posted - 2013.09.06 17:50:00 -
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Can we get points for destroying enemy drop uplinks? It's a huge strategic thing most people don't think about because it doesn't give points.
Also, get rid of the points for neutral turrets. It's stupid that my own team blows up our own turrets for the WP. |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
51
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Posted - 2013.09.06 17:57:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:Right now we're testing WP rewards for scanning, counter hacking, dropship transport, headshots and equipment destruction. Unless something goes wrong in testing you'll get all those in 1.5 :-)
if not already mentioned, can a 5 WP premium be put on each squad lead's head please. we can easily spot them now with the double chevron, so an incentive to take them out would be appreciated. |
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