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        |  CommanderBolt
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:37:00 -
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 I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
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        |  Shotty GoBang
 Intara Direct Action
 Caldari State
 
 915
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:38:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
 
 * Races for PS3 controller *
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        |  noob cavman
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 28
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:38:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
 
 The breech is a dream ~~~~~~
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        |  Lucifalic
 Baked n Loaded
 
 76
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:40:00 -
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 Please don't toy with my feelings. Is it really fixed ?
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        |  Mechoj Nomreps
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 101
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:41:00 -
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 it was not fixed yesterday, is it now?
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        |  DTOracle
 The Surrogates Of War
 
 126
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:43:00 -
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 I can confirm that the SG is fixed. been going positive all morning
  
 Thanks CCP
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        |  Roofer Madness
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 204
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:45:00 -
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 Mechoj Nomreps wrote:it was not fixed yesterday, is it now? 
 From this morning:
 
 
 Quote:#1Posted: 2013.09.05 09:30 | ReportDear players,
 
 Today DUST 514 will go offline for an extended period of time starting from 11:00 GMT. Server is expected to come back up at 12:00 GMT. Today we are deploying the following changes:
 
 * Fix to the issue where RDV would drop vehicles from great heights
 * Fix to the Shotgun hit detection issue
 * Fix to the crash where players would call in vehicle and leave battle before vehicle deployment starts
 * Further improvements to the Ashland Domination map issue (null cannon block)
 * Fix to the issue of district selection of FW battles - players should no longer experience the "scotty errors" in matchmaking
 * Deployment of the new storefront promotion
 
 Thank you for your patience and understanding.
 
 So yup, it's fixed!!!!
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        |  Luper024
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 7
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:45:00 -
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 Yes SG is fixed been using it all morning.
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        |  noob cavman
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 28
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:47:00 -
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 Best game so far is 22/5 in a std suit
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        |  Spec Ops Cipher
 Seraphim Initiative..
 
 507
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:49:00 -
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 I won't believe it till I see it, but a preemptive yaaaaaay is in order.
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        |  Iskandar Zul Karnain
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 1644
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:54:00 -
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 That was fast!
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        |  Lucifalic
 Baked n Loaded
 
 76
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:56:00 -
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 I'll be the first. Nerf the sg. No one follow in my footsteps
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        |  Mechoj Nomreps
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 102
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 14:58:00 -
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 Spec Ops Cipher wrote:I won't believe it till I see it, but a preemptive yaaaaaay is in order. 
 
 Same here, cannot wait to try it out.
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        |  CCP Logibro
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1476
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:07:00 -
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 Send honeyed lamb, fillet steak and thanks to Team Kong. That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links.
 CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
 
 @CCP_Logibro
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        |  steadyhand amarr
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1228
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:13:00 -
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 Uuuggg bring out the amarr light allready :-)
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        |  OZAROW
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 522
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:17:00 -
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 Dude it was awesome today!
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        |  Knight Soiaire
 Better Hide R Die
 
 2259
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:31:00 -
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 CCP Logibro wrote:Send honeyed lamb, fillet steak and thanks to Team Kong. That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. 
 I wuv you SeeSeePee!
 
 
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        |  Driftward
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 451
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:33:00 -
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 This makes me very happy. incredibly so. On Tuesday, when I thought I would have to use some other weapon I almost cried. I think I'd rather walk away from the game than use the AR at any rate. Too damn vanilla.
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        |  DTOracle
 The Surrogates Of War
 
 128
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:46:00 -
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 Driftward wrote:This makes me very happy. incredibly so. On Tuesday, when I thought I would have to use some other weapon I almost cried. I think I'd rather walk away from the game than use the AR at any rate. Too damn vanilla. I felt the same way. Now with this hotfix, 1.4 is looking & feeling like an awesome update. Minus the match making issues ATM.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1150
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:48:00 -
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 I got a bit of a semi.
 
 Now just roll back the matchmaking and get us some team deploy!!
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        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Negative-Impact
 Cult of War
 
 32
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 15:58:00 -
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 Shotgun OP fix now!! QQ
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        |  IgniteableAura
 Pro Hic Immortalis
 
 130
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 16:03:00 -
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 CCP Logibro wrote:That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. 
 Deal
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        |  IRON PATRIOT 1
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 42
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 16:14:00 -
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 it's alive
 
 http://youtu.be/xos2MnVxe-c
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        |  major faux-pas
 Valor Coalition
 RISE of LEGION
 
 76
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 16:40:00 -
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 It is different.
 But not fixed.
 
 OK, Could be connection issues. But I still get kills when I shouldnt. and don't when I should.
 
 THE CHANGE I have noticed, seems to be damage/range calculation. Several times yesterday a close shot did very little damage, the guy retreats and my second shot tears him apart. - But of course this could all just be linked to the above.
 
 I don't understand what is so complicated. If my circle is central to the target, deal maximum damage at that range, if it is a little off centre, deal less.
  
 If it is linked to lag issues, just make the damage calculation local to the same system controlling the local display, no?
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        |  Fizzer94
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 79
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 16:45:00 -
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 Shotgun is FOTM and OP. Please nerf, everyone is killing with it.
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        |  D legendary hero
 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
 
 837
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 16:53:00 -
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 CCP Logibro wrote:Send honeyed lamb, fillet steak and thanks to Team Kong. That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. 
 I sent you my eldest daughter and dowery. name my grandchild lil'logibro
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        |  D legendary hero
 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
 
 837
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 16:56:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
 
 
 wait but that means ... *gasp* calamity jane!
 
 everytime i get shotgunned im going to scream this:
 
 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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        |  D legendary hero
 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
 
 837
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 17:00:00 -
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 Fizzer94 wrote:Shotgun is FOTM and OP. Please nerf, everyone is killing with it.   
 
 are you serious?
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        |  Shane Darko
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 83
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 17:20:00 -
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 A turn for the better? :O
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        |  pseudosnipre
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 214
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 18:00:00 -
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 FOTM is doubtful
 
 You need speed and damping to do it right.
 
 Mediums will light up on tacnet like a whorehouse.
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        |  Driftward
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 453
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 19:21:00 -
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 You need a very specific playstyle to truly use the shotgun like a beast. The rampant AR users / FOTM crowd don't usually move to different playstyles. So while I think we'll see an increase in shotgun usage, I don't think it will be anything like what happened with flaylock and mass drivers. So yah, I agree with ^ (pseudosnipre)
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        |  Godin Thekiller
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 487
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 19:39:00 -
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 CCP Logibro wrote:Send honeyed lamb, fillet steak and thanks to Team Kong. That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. 
 I'm not cooking today, only..
  , and I don't have my capture card anymore. Anyways, Who fixed it gets a cookie. | 
      
      
        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 3695
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 19:41:00 -
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 I'm REALLY enjoying the resurrection of my Shotgun so far.
 
 Thanks CCP!
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 8069
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 19:44:00 -
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 D legendary hero wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Send honeyed lamb, fillet steak and thanks to Team Kong. That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. I sent you my eldest daughter and dowery. name my grandchild lil'logibro 
 Ahem...
 
 Team Kong consists of folks like CCP Wolfman and CCP Remnant.
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        |  CommanderBolt
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 258
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 20:53:00 -
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 Further feedback.
 
 The shotgun isnt working at 100% but its a hell of a lot better than I can recently remember. So again thanks for the quick fix there CCP.
 
 I think the main niggle I have with the SG now is that in higer lag / higer ping battles it does have some delay when firing.
 
 I would say 7 - 8 / 10 matches it works really nice though, that's a huge improvement.
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        |  Zahle Undt
 Bullet Cluster
 
 284
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 21:38:00 -
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 Driftward wrote:This makes me very happy. incredibly so. On Tuesday, when I thought I would have to use some other weapon I almost cried. I think I'd rather walk away from the game than use the AR at any rate. Too damn vanilla. 
 While I am happy for you shotgunners (sort of cause I still hate you guys and gals
  ) the shotty is becoming pretty standard. I seem to die to more of those than anything else these days, but at least I'll still sometimes get the best of you all with my submachine gunning minmatar assault fit. 
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        |  Godin Thekiller
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 487
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 21:39:00 -
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 Well, Now the only problem with 1.4 now is the Aimbot, and swarms being more OP than before. Great work? I guess......
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        |  pseudosnipre
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 217
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 21:51:00 -
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 Zahle Undt wrote:Driftward wrote:This makes me very happy. incredibly so. On Tuesday, when I thought I would have to use some other weapon I almost cried. I think I'd rather walk away from the game than use the AR at any rate. Too damn vanilla. While I am happy for you shotgunners (sort of cause I still hate you guys and gals   ) the shotty is becoming pretty standard. I seem to die to more of those than anything else these days, but at least I'll still sometimes get the best of you all with my submachine gunning minmatar assault fit. That's because the only shotgun scouts still around are the crusty, mean bastards that stuck it out through hitbox expansion, useless ewar, tissue-sized hp, shotgun bugs, etc, etc, etc and STILL found a way to be successful!
 
 And now we're a crazy combination of pissed off, patient and calculating having spent these months of uprising honing our skills while we lose one brother after another to the AR-toting, mouth-breathing, entitlement-minded masses until THIS glorious day:
 
 Tacnet invisibility...check.
 Shotgun functionality...check.
 
 Prepare for our arrival.
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        |  GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 56
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 21:55:00 -
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 PEW PEW ,PEW PEW!!
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        |  Driftward
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 458
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 22:07:00 -
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 GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:PEW PEW ,PEW PEW!! 
 
 NO NO NO, it goes more like KACHUNK, BLAM!!!!, KACHUNK, BLAM!!!!
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        |  pseudosnipre
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 221
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 22:15:00 -
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 Driftward wrote:GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:PEW PEW ,PEW PEW!! NO NO NO, it goes more like KACHUNK, BLAM!!!!, KACHUNK, BLAM!!!!  I lol'd in my car at HD
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        |  Fizzer94
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 86
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 22:29:00 -
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 D legendary hero wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Shotgun is FOTM and OP. Please nerf, everyone is killing with it.   are you serious ? No. Hence the eye rolled sarcasm face. I though it was obvious.
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        |  Zahle Undt
 Bullet Cluster
 
 286
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 22:52:00 -
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 pseudosnipre wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:Driftward wrote:This makes me very happy. incredibly so. On Tuesday, when I thought I would have to use some other weapon I almost cried. I think I'd rather walk away from the game than use the AR at any rate. Too damn vanilla. While I am happy for you shotgunners (sort of cause I still hate you guys and gals   ) the shotty is becoming pretty standard. I seem to die to more of those than anything else these days, but at least I'll still sometimes get the best of you all with my submachine gunning minmatar assault fit. That's because the only shotgun scouts still around are the crusty, mean bastards that stuck it out through hitbox expansion, useless ewar, tissue-sized hp, shotgun bugs, etc, etc, etc and STILL found a way to be successful! And now we're a crazy combination of pissed off, patient and calculating having spent these months of uprising honing our skills while we lose one brother after another to the AR-toting, mouth-breathing, entitlement-minded masses until THIS glorious day: Tacnet invisibility...check. Shotgun functionality...check. Prepare for our arrival. 
 Arrival!? You guys have been kicking my @ss since before they were "fixed" minmitar assaults and caldari logis mostly. Lots of speed and shields and a vicious shotgun. I'm not complaining (much anyway) mind you, just saying that people who are skilled with shottys and build their suits around them are killers and should all go to hell
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        |  ANON Illuminati
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 215
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 22:54:00 -
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 CCP Logibro wrote:Send honeyed lamb, fillet steak and thanks to Team Kong. That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. 
 you just made me hungry.... smh now i have to watch players get slaughtered by shotguns while thinking of steak.
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        |  ANON Illuminati
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 215
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 22:55:00 -
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 & yes commander has been killing everyone with his shotty so people please bring them out so i can douvolle you with ease. hahahahahahahahahahahah [evil laugh]
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        |  pseudosnipre
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 221
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.05 23:55:00 -
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 ANON Illuminati wrote:& yes commander has been killing everyone with his shotty so people please bring them out so i can douvolle you with ease. hahahahahahahahahahahah [evil laugh] I'll remember you said this
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        |  CCP Wolfman
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1910
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:35:00 -
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 Huzzah!
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        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 3744
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:38:00 -
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 CCP Wolfman wrote:Huzzah!  It may be a little early for celebration...
 
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=108016&find=unread
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        |  Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
 Chatelain Rapid Response
 Gallente Federation
 
 66
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:39:00 -
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 CCP Wolfman wrote:Huzzah!  your fix is fake
 
 the GUN lags behind the AIMING
 
 -_______-
 
 srsly how did you even achieve that
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        |  Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
 Chatelain Rapid Response
 Gallente Federation
 
 66
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:40:00 -
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 and before you ask
 
 MY PING IS 15ms
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        |  Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
 Chatelain Rapid Response
 Gallente Federation
 
 66
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:44:00 -
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 and before you celebrate
 
 dont forget this is some really basic fps mechanics and you somehow managed to still not able to fix it AFTER 36 MONTHS
 
 seriously
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        |  D legendary hero
 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
 
 846
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:56:00 -
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 Driftward wrote:GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:PEW PEW ,PEW PEW!! NO NO NO, it goes more like KACHUNK, BLAM!!!! +50, KACHUNK, BLAM!!!! +50  
 thats more like it
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        |  D legendary hero
 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
 
 846
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 01:57:00 -
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 this hit detection is actually helping out my flaylocks too... although you still need at least ADV with operation lvl 5 to get the hit.
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        |  D legendary hero
 THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
 
 848
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:04:00 -
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 CCP Wolfman wrote:Huzzah!  
 so, one of the hamsters were slacking? Please don't [/URL] punish him!
 
 
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        |  ANON Illuminati
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 220
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:32:00 -
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 pseudosnipre wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:& yes commander has been killing everyone with his shotty so people please bring them out so i can douvolle you with ease. hahahahahahahahahahahah [evil laugh] I'll remember you said this   
 
 bring it sir lol bring it.
 
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        |  Tectonic Fusion
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 226
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:37:00 -
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 I got killed by knives twice... NERF IT!!!
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        |  Tectonic Fusion
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 228
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:40:00 -
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 D legendary hero wrote:this hit detection is actually helping out my flaylocks too... although you still need at least ADV with operation lvl 5 to get the hit. | 
      
      
        |  KING CHECKMATE
 TEAM SATISFACTION
 
 858
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:46:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
 
 ITs called aim bot LOL.
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        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 3771
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:58:00 -
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 KING CHECKMATE wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
 ITs called aim bot LOL. ...you know people with Aim Assist turned off are still getting the benefits of the Shotgun fix, right?
 And you know the Shotgun was on at least one of CCP's lists of weapons that don't get AA, right?
 
 LOL.
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        |  Matticus Monk
 Ordus Trismegistus
 
 418
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 02:59:00 -
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 Zahle Undt wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:That's because the only shotgun scouts still around are the crusty, mean bastards that stuck it out through hitbox expansion, useless ewar, tissue-sized hp, shotgun bugs, etc, etc, etc and STILL found a way to be successful!
 
 And now we're a crazy combination of pissed off, patient and calculating having spent these months of uprising honing our skills while we lose one brother after another to the AR-toting, mouth-breathing, entitlement-minded masses until THIS glorious day:
 
 Tacnet invisibility...check.
 Shotgun functionality...check.
 
 Prepare for our arrival.
 Arrival!? You guys have been kicking my @ss since before they were "fixed" minmitar assaults and caldari logis mostly. Lots of speed and shields and a vicious shotgun. I'm not complaining (much anyway) mind you, just saying that people who are skilled with shottys and build their suits around them are killers and should all go to hell   
 A LOT of folks min/maxxed over to the darkside of medium suits with shotguns. Those are not the bitter, crusty, mean bastard scouts that he is referring to. THOSE people, those SCOUTS, have suffered through craptacular shotgun performance for what seems like ages.... they have adapted to use lower damage weapons that leave them exposed in their flimsy armor for a lot longer to far deadlier targets. Their kill counts and ISK spent have suffered. Now those scouts have become even easier to kill with aim assist and hit detection improvements in 1.4.
 
 The players he is referring to are the fast, stealthy, aware, fragile and extremely pissed off players in actual scout suits that love turning mercs into a fine red mist with extreme prejudice.
 
 There is a special place in hell reserved for medium suit shotgun weenies, and those that control that place are shotgun scouts.
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Shotty GoBang
 Intara Direct Action
 Caldari State
 
 946
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 03:19:00 -
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 +1, Matticus.
 +1, pseudo.
 
 lol and \o/
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        |  CommanderBolt
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 263
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 08:59:00 -
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 KING CHECKMATE wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:I have only played one match so I hope I am not speaking too soon. CCP I think you have cracked it!
 The shotgun is working like a dream! Better hit detection than ever in fact.....
 ITs called aim bot LOL. 
 Checkmate I though you knew better. I use mouse and keyboard, with 0 aim asssits. I use no aimbot bro lol.
 
 
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        |  2100 Angels
 The Southern Legion
 The Umbra Combine
 
 248
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 09:17:00 -
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 It's disappointing that speed is no longer a viable tactic to use the SG and take advantage of its re-found awesomeness
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        |  CommanderBolt
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 267
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 11:59:00 -
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 2100 Angels wrote:It's disappointing that speed is no longer a viable tactic to use the SG and take advantage of its re-found awesomeness   
 You are right. Now I have had another day or so to test, speed really isn't a helping factor much. I'm finding having additional hit points in armour, coupled with profile dampeners is much better. The base scout speed seems to be enough.
 
 I tried with my usual kincats and found I could not escape anything any better than without them. The usual dodging + strafing tactics don't work no where near as much.
 
 Obviously the aim assist is doing its job, but its working too well against scouts.
 
 I would be curious to know what CCP had in mind when they said before they plan to give scouts some love...
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        |  Driftward
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 461
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.06 15:30:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:2100 Angels wrote:It's disappointing that speed is no longer a viable tactic to use the SG and take advantage of its re-found awesomeness   You are right. Now I have had another day or so to test, speed really isn't a helping factor much. I'm finding having additional hit points in armour, coupled with profile dampeners is much better. The base scout speed seems to be enough. I tried with my usual kincats and found I could not escape anything any better than without them. The usual dodging + strafing tactics don't work no where near as much. Obviously the aim assist is doing its job, but its working too well against scouts. I would be curious to know what CCP had in mind when they said before they plan to give scouts some love... 
 I have to disagree. Speed still has it's place. Just ask pseudosnipre.
 
 He went something like 15/3 in an ambush I was in (sadly opposing team). I watched him mow through 6 people in about 5 seconds using what looked like a gallente proto scout hopped up on at least 2-3 complex kincats. It was angry.
 
 Kin cats with an active scanner is both lethal and focussed. I had to make a fit just to try it out afterwards at which point I got stuck in an OMS that was 3 vs 7 (on the 3 side). Spent some time screwing around the first 9 deaths, then whipped out my proto kin cat suit and ended with a 22/11 finish and a 15 kill streak. Almost won it for my team of 3. Tons of fun even if I lost that one.
 
 PSA: wolfmann has said that scouts get love hopefully in 1.5 but more likely 1.6 considering the amount of work they have to do on vehicles still.
 
 Edit: I do have to mention that a balanced approach between speed and buffer will propably work the best. With the increased HP on armor plates, armor tanking a gallente scout is viable. 2 ferroscales/2 kincats or a 3 scales/1 kincat could work.
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        |  IgniteableAura
 Pro Hic Immortalis
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.08 06:48:00 -
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 IgniteableAura wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:That or create a shotgun killing montage and post links. Deal 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdMSapwB7o0
 
 As usual, give it some time to "process"
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        |  CommanderBolt
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.10 12:05:00 -
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 Nice video man, I see you suffer the same problems I do. Keep operating like were back in 1.3, got the "rush" on haha. We need to learn to play even more sneaky.
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        |  Frank Olson Usul
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.10 12:18:00 -
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 Against normal players on public I found out that sprint-jumping is still a very viable option. Because the scouts run and therefore "fly" so much faster, I sometimes survive 3 bursts against me because after every shotgun-shot I circle-jump my opponent (once you get completely out of their sight, which this does, aim assist doesn't help them).
 
 Try it and give me feedback :)
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        |  Korvin Lomont
 United Pwnage Service
 RISE of LEGION
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.10 12:29:00 -
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 major faux-pas wrote:It is different.  But not fixed.  OK, Could be connection issues. But I still get kills when I shouldnt. and don't when I should. THE CHANGE I have noticed, seems to be damage/range calculation. Several times yesterday a close shot did very little damage, the guy retreats and my second shot tears him apart. - But of course this could all just be linked to the above.  I don't understand what is so complicated. If my circle is central to the target, deal maximum damage at that range, if it is a little off centre, deal less.   If it is linked to lag issues, just make the damage calculation local to the same system controlling the local display, no? 
 Yeah I have experienced the same no hits when victim is recticle and kills when shooting in the air beneath or above my victim. Also Damage seems to vary quite a bit :/
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        |  bjorn morkai
 Sanmatar Kelkoons
 Minmatar Republic
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.10 19:12:00 -
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 Until the shotgun stops looking like a winch, it aint fixed. Ugliest damn thing I've ever seen. Then again it DOES look like Gallente tech... so that would explain a lot.
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        |  Fox Gaden
 Immortal Guides
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.10 19:22:00 -
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 I bet I will still accidentally melee every time I try to shoot anything with it though. Me thinks I press too hard on the joystick when I get excited.
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        |  pseudosnipre
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.11 08:03:00 -
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 Fox Gaden wrote:Me thinks I press too hard on the joystick when I get excited.   ...from underneath?
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        |  IgniteableAura
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      | Posted - 2013.09.12 15:55:00 -
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 CommanderBolt wrote:Nice video man, I see you suffer the same problems I do. Keep operating like were back in 1.3, got the "rush" on haha. We need to learn to play even more sneaky. 
 Start your night playing with the breach....after a couple games switch back to regular shotgun and it will help be more accurate. You really have to time your shots with the breach...do wish it would either A) reload faster, or B) Have 4 in the clip. 2 in the clip and the awful reload speed is just too much.
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        |  Shotty GoBang
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      | Posted - 2013.09.13 16:14:00 -
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 Shotgun issues persist after fix?
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1295399
 
 ^ Check out videos on P.2.
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        |  IgniteableAura
 Pro Hic Immortalis
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.16 21:07:00 -
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 Don't know if you guys hotfixed something but shotgun pellets are going away again.
 
 Skip to 1:30
 
 http://www.twitch.tv/igniteableaura/b/462488317
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        |  CommanderBolt
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.17 10:45:00 -
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 They have broke the shot gun again?
 I have been playing on my alt without shotguns. It seems I leave my main 5 seconds and ccp brake something lol.
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        |  Keeriam Miray
 Ostrakon Agency
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.17 12:40:00 -
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 yep, it does exactly what i explained here
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1308186#post1308186
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        |  Mortedeamor
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.17 13:42:00 -
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 steadyhand amarr wrote:Uuuggg bring out the amarr light allready :-) please
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        |  Mirataf
 WARRIORS 1NC
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.17 15:32:00 -
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 IgniteableAura wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Nice video man, I see you suffer the same problems I do. Keep operating like were back in 1.3, got the "rush" on haha. We need to learn to play even more sneaky. Start your night playing with the breach....after a couple games switch back to regular shotgun and it will help be more accurate. You really have to time your shots with the breach...do wish it would either A) reload faster, or B) Have 4 in the clip. 2 in the clip and the awful reload speed is just too much. 
 
 /agreed
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        |  ugg reset
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.17 15:40:00 -
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 steadyhand amarr wrote:Uuuggg bring out the amarr light allready :-) 
 I'm working on it =p
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