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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:46:00 -
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They are just accessories, that is all.
Worry about your core game, features and filling out the suits before you concern yourself with accessory support. It is too much effort wasted on something a tiny fraction of your user-base will ever use.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
2004
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:52:00 -
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For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1170
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:53:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base.
funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
23
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:56:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base.
Do they really?
I would wager not. Lets try to get some numbers from CCP about this. Remember the forums and player corporations always only make up a small fraction of the userbase, normally the more hardcore.
Oh and I think of substantial for an accessory to be above 10% |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
340
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:57:00 -
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Good idea, ignore kb&m,
get familiar with all the 64 ds3 players cause those will be the only fcuking people you'll be playing in two weeks |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
23
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:59:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Good idea, ignore kb&m,
get familiar with all the 64 ds3 players cause those will be the only fcuking people you'll be playing in two weeks
Oh please, hyperboil more.
Really I am quite interested what the numbers are. Does anyone have figures for other games on the Ps3 that support both control methods?
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:13:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game
Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome... |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
2008
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:13:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. Do they really? I would wager not. Lets try to get some numbers from CCP about this. Remember the forums and player corporations always only make up a small fraction of the userbase, normally the more hardcore. Oh and I think of substantial for an accessory to be above 10%
Right now I still think so.
Give it a couple years of console growth and then maybe not. Remember this game has a lot of EVE players in it as well, EVE players who don't want to use a DS3.
Still, I think they are giving just the right amount of love to the control schemes. They just need to add independent ADS/Hipfire sensitivity and the mouse will work great. That is slated for 1.5 from what I'm hearing and then we're in a good spot. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
223
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:17:00 -
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Some people prefer kb/m, some prefer controller. Most pc games these days are optimized for use with either. Idk why your complaining about this. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1172
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:22:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome...
funny how mouse and keyboard players complain about a console game requiring a controller to play. |
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
798
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:27:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base.
If aiming was decent for DS3 AND KBM, then this wouldn't be a problem. However, KBM/DS3 a-hole Elitist's want DS3 Aiming Nerfed. Again.
Get DS3 to work?
Attract FPS audience.
Get KB/M to work?
Attract EVE player audience. |
velos ALKARI
DUST University
Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:29:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome...
which platform is this game on?? |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:30:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome... funny how mouse and keyboard players complain about a console game requiring a controller to play.
You're ignorant, because CCP didn't create the game from Day 1 to support KB/M ? Learn wtf you're talking about before you contribute thanks.. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:32:00 -
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velos ALKARI wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome... which platform is this game on??
Did CCP not include KB/M support from day 1? Don't be ignorant as well... |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
2008
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:32:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. If aiming was decent for DS3 AND KBM, then this wouldn't be a problem. However, KBM/DS3 a-hole Elitist's want DS3 Aiming Nerfed. Again. Get DS3 to work? Attract FPS audience. Get KB/M to work? Attract EVE player audience.
KBM elitist a-holes just want this to come to PC already  |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:35:00 -
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Honestly im glad the the aiming for DS3 was fixed multiple of RL friends are now considering putting some time into Dust.. Being a veteran of Dust I understand DS3 is the primary Input and it needs polished first..
But the fact that KB/M has been broken since Chromosome and now DS3 is at its peak with aim assist there is no reason not to focus some attention on the second input CCP provides..
Because regardless of the trolls in this thread KB/M support was promised by CCP be it a minority or not there is a group of dedicated/invested KB/M players...
CCP should provide them the same respect/attention they provide the DS3 users, its that simple.. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:37:00 -
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velos ALKARI wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome... which platform is this game on??
console. nuff said |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
799
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:38:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. If aiming was decent for DS3 AND KBM, then this wouldn't be a problem. However, KBM/DS3 a-hole Elitist's want DS3 Aiming Nerfed. Again. Get DS3 to work? Attract FPS audience. Get KB/M to work? Attract EVE player audience. KBM elitist a-holes just want this to come to PC already
No ****. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:39:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:For most console FPS games I might agree... but Dust has a fairly substantial kbm user base. funny how they expect a console game to act like a pc game Funny how it used to act like a PC game in Chromosome... funny how mouse and keyboard players complain about a console game requiring a controller to play. You're ignorant, because CCP didn't create the game from Day 1 to support KB/M ? Learn wtf you're talking about before you contribute thanks..
im not ignorant, im just using common sense, just because this game supports it, doesn't mean that it is mandatory to be used, if that's the case then why don't people use controllers on PC? |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
43
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:41:00 -
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Why doesn't any play on move? I would love to hear what they say and who knows maybe it's more of a clutch lol |
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:43:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Honestly im glad the the aiming for DS3 was fixed multiple of RL friends are now considering putting some time into Dust.. Being a veteran of Dust I understand DS3 is the primary Input and it needs polished first..
But the fact that KB/M has been broken since Chromosome and now DS3 is at its peak with aim assist there is no reason not to focus some attention on the second input CCP provides..
Because regardless of the trolls in this thread KB/M support was promised by CCP be it a minority or not there is a group of dedicated/invested KB/M players...
CCP should provide them the same respect/attention they provide the DS3 users, its that simple..
Does this apply to move, aswell as the sharpshooter attachment? That control scheme is pretty broken right now as it is, yet there is no big outcry even though dust was also promised move support.
You know why there is no big outcry? It was never an i-Win button compared to the controller and it is an accessory. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
im not ignorant, im just using common sense, just because this game supports it, doesn't mean that it is mandatory to be used, if that's the case then why don't people use controllers on PC?
Dafuq are you talking about ? You ever hear about steam big picture its designed for couch play and indy titles not to mention the xbox controller moves seamlessly over to a PC when ever needed with no hiccups.. So yet again pretty ignorant comment.. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:46:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:
im not ignorant, im just using common sense, just because this game supports it, doesn't mean that it is mandatory to be used, if that's the case then why don't people use controllers on PC?
Dafuq are you talking about ? You ever hear about steam big picture its designed for couch play and indy titles not to mention the xbox controller moves seamlessly over to a PC when ever needed with no hiccups.. So yet again pretty ignorant comment..
Hey look at that, Valve is trying to expand their market into controller orientated gamers.... you know the market thats like 10 times bigger than PC gamers.
No one wants to sit at a freaking desk to relax.... well no normal people do. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:47:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Honestly im glad the the aiming for DS3 was fixed multiple of RL friends are now considering putting some time into Dust.. Being a veteran of Dust I understand DS3 is the primary Input and it needs polished first..
But the fact that KB/M has been broken since Chromosome and now DS3 is at its peak with aim assist there is no reason not to focus some attention on the second input CCP provides..
Because regardless of the trolls in this thread KB/M support was promised by CCP be it a minority or not there is a group of dedicated/invested KB/M players...
CCP should provide them the same respect/attention they provide the DS3 users, its that simple.. Does this apply to move, aswell as the sharpshooter attachment? That control scheme is pretty broken right now as it is, yet there is no big outcry even though dust was also promised move support. You know why there is no big outcry? It was never an i-Win button compared to the controller and it is an accessory.
No its because............... WHO THE **** USES A MOVE FOR A SHOOTER.... The last person i seen use a move was my grandmother playing some kind of archery game in her senior home... Or i guess there are those hand full of role players sitting back on there bad covered up in a home made ghillie suit and the big pink ball wand shooting at the TV....
Come on now lets be real the two most competitive uses of shooters is DS3 and KB/M hence the outcry for both and from both... |
Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
216
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:48:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:No one wants to sit at a freaking desk to relax.... well no normal people do.
Yea no normal people play WoW, Starcraft or LoL. I could go on but that would just be ignorant.
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Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:51:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:
im not ignorant, im just using common sense, just because this game supports it, doesn't mean that it is mandatory to be used, if that's the case then why don't people use controllers on PC?
Dafuq are you talking about ? You ever hear about steam big picture its designed for couch play and indy titles not to mention the xbox controller moves seamlessly over to a PC when ever needed with no hiccups.. So yet again pretty ignorant comment..
so im ignorant for not wanting to use the M/KB for my console game?
your ignorant for trying to enforce that on me |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:52:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Honestly im glad the the aiming for DS3 was fixed multiple of RL friends are now considering putting some time into Dust.. Being a veteran of Dust I understand DS3 is the primary Input and it needs polished first..
But the fact that KB/M has been broken since Chromosome and now DS3 is at its peak with aim assist there is no reason not to focus some attention on the second input CCP provides..
Because regardless of the trolls in this thread KB/M support was promised by CCP be it a minority or not there is a group of dedicated/invested KB/M players...
CCP should provide them the same respect/attention they provide the DS3 users, its that simple.. Does this apply to move, aswell as the sharpshooter attachment? That control scheme is pretty broken right now as it is, yet there is no big outcry even though dust was also promised move support. You know why there is no big outcry? It was never an i-Win button compared to the controller and it is an accessory. No its because............... WHO THE **** USES A MOVE FOR A SHOOTER.... The last person i seen use a move was my grandmother playing some kind of archery game in her senior home... Or i guess there are those hand full of role players sitting back on their bed covered up in a home made ghillie suit and the big pink ball wand shooting at the TV.... Come on now lets be real the two most competitive uses of shooters is DS3 and KB/M hence the outcry for both and from both...
I have the playstation sharpshooting thing for the move, I don't use it because it doesn't work well, but I like it because it looks like a gun. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
465
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:55:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:
im not ignorant, im just using common sense, just because this game supports it, doesn't mean that it is mandatory to be used, if that's the case then why don't people use controllers on PC?
Dafuq are you talking about ? You ever hear about steam big picture its designed for couch play and indy titles not to mention the xbox controller moves seamlessly over to a PC when ever needed with no hiccups.. So yet again pretty ignorant comment.. so im ignorant for not wanting to use the M/KB for my console game? your ignorant for trying to enforce that on me
Void, bro, please learn reading comprehension... if you search my posts Ive never tried to enforce KB/M on anyone please feel free to quote me when ive demanded for the community to only use kb/m in fact my post in this exact thread praised the DS3 improvements that came with 1.4 you don't see to many Kb/m users praising aim assist... |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1173
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:59:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Void Echo wrote:
im not ignorant, im just using common sense, just because this game supports it, doesn't mean that it is mandatory to be used, if that's the case then why don't people use controllers on PC?
Dafuq are you talking about ? You ever hear about steam big picture its designed for couch play and indy titles not to mention the xbox controller moves seamlessly over to a PC when ever needed with no hiccups.. So yet again pretty ignorant comment.. so im ignorant for not wanting to use the M/KB for my console game? your ignorant for trying to enforce that on me Void, bro, please learn reading comprehension... if you search my posts Ive never tried to enforce KB/M on anyone please feel free to quote me when ive demanded for the community to only use kb/m in fact my post in this exact thread praised the DS3 improvements that came with 1.4 you don't see to many Kb/m users praising aim assist...
its the attitude your giving off. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
26
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:00:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Honestly im glad the the aiming for DS3 was fixed multiple of RL friends are now considering putting some time into Dust.. Being a veteran of Dust I understand DS3 is the primary Input and it needs polished first..
But the fact that KB/M has been broken since Chromosome and now DS3 is at its peak with aim assist there is no reason not to focus some attention on the second input CCP provides..
Because regardless of the trolls in this thread KB/M support was promised by CCP be it a minority or not there is a group of dedicated/invested KB/M players...
CCP should provide them the same respect/attention they provide the DS3 users, its that simple.. Does this apply to move, aswell as the sharpshooter attachment? That control scheme is pretty broken right now as it is, yet there is no big outcry even though dust was also promised move support. You know why there is no big outcry? It was never an i-Win button compared to the controller and it is an accessory. No its because............... WHO THE **** USES A MOVE FOR A SHOOTER.... The last person i seen use a move was my grandmother playing some kind of archery game in her senior home... Or i guess there are those hand full of role players sitting back on their bed covered up in a home made ghillie suit and the big pink ball wand shooting at the TV.... Come on now lets be real the two most competitive uses of shooters is DS3 and KB/M hence the outcry for both and from both...
Are you kidding? Go look at what happened to killzone 3 MP, move absolutely demolished the other controls,
What kind of ketchup-stained a-shirt wearing neckbeard hooks up a mouse and a keyboard to a console? |
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