^^ post a video showing this, use a webcam to record your hands

Your aim will NOT MOVE without INPUT

This whole nonsense of "just keep firing without using the joystick and your aim will move" doesn't happen it just doesn't.

so your saying your aim will move, a lot, even if you don't touch the joysticks at all...

also please confrim are you moving the joystick a little while firing? is there some combo of moving the joystick slightly while rapidly firing? help me recreate your conditions.

Using my SG and trying to aim in cqc gets me killed, it's too easy to overcompensate now I look at the target once and aimbot does the rest. Test aim assist at close range hip firing somebody.

You posted text.

I have tested the aimbot assist. It does adjust towards the head, and it does track targets.

See my proof? It's right there. Same as yours. Except when someone disagrees with you, you demand they post not one but two videos, all but calling them a liar. Can you post a video of gameplay footage and a recording of your hands with aim assist proven to be on and prove that it doesn't track targets and adjust for the head? Guessing not, because it does.

As I said

If you think the aimbot assist is fine, you are dumb, bad, inept, and unobservant.

That's all I have to say in this thread

Funny how I asked you for more details but you throw a hissy fit, I'm sorry but I don't listen to posts like yours and neither does CCP. They said it outright, try a better attitude.

I didn't call you dumb, bad, inept, and unobservant. I asked for more details.

+1.

This forum needs more people the OP.

The aim assist is much stronger than the OP is letting on. I would recommend the OP perform all his/her test again, but instead of just putting crosshairs on a target, quickly tap the Fire button while doing so.

I am an AR user and i'm just over a month in and approaching 3.5 million SP. From what I have experienced with the new aim assist, as long as I am rapidly tapping the R1 (Fire) Button (as opposed to just holding it) once 2-4 of my rounds hit the enemy my gun begins to "track" the enemy (as long as I keep firing) with ALMOST no input from me. Even if the enemy is strafing or jumping, doesn't matter. Now i'm not saying my crosshair is jumping 85 degrees and locking onto a guys head all by itself. I'm saying that if I open up on a guy, score a few hits, and keep firing, when he goes to strafe or jump as long as I give the right stick a slight bump in the general direction of his movement every, say half second (maybe less, maybe more), my crosshairs stay locked on the guy.

All of this happens over the course of maybe 2 seconds absolute max, not long I know, but an eternity when you are shooting at someone/getting shot at. Maybe i'm just imagining things..........

My average KDR pre patch was probably something like 9/7 or 7/10 or something like that. Yesterday I was hitting 17/7 and 23/14 type KDRs all day. Pre patch I was awful with the AR past medium range, yesterday I was consistently killing clones at looooooong range within 3/4 of a second.

I know they worked on the hit detection also, and that together with the aim assist may be making things seem disproportionately wacky, and maybe my mind is playing tricks on me a little, but i'll say this: Aim Assist (in my opinion) needs to be "turned down" or whatever by at least 50%. I have benefited immensely from the Aim Assist from a statistical point of view, but it's not making me a better player. I know some people could give a **** about being a better player and just want good looking stats, which is fine, but I think some level of required skill needs to be preserved and I feel the current Aim Assist system is overshadowing skill a little to much.

That being said, am I going to have Aim Assist on? You're god damn right I am lol. To powerful to pass up, hopefully the data post patch justifies turning it down.

EDIT: Oh, and I almost exclusively use ADS. I rarely hip fire, and have not done any hip fire testing post patch.

Indeed, basically the magnetism means the aim wont paralx anymore, strafing wont take you off target as much, but if you strafe too much it will just stop sticking! Adhesion meams that sensitivity changes one you get close enough to a target. This zone will increase the further you are away the more it will appear, but thats because the traget is smaller.

There is no aimbot

As for shooting through walls, it appears that its lag compensation, its not that shots are curving, but shots that hit, hit lit later than they should do, giving the apperance of shooting through or round walls, CCP need to fix this by making lag compensation variable per person based on a value which comprises of the users, ping and jitter, as it currently appears to be fixed on hitscan weaponrary!

OP Well done with testing it thourghly, good to see someone prepared to give ccp a chamce!!

He/she may have a point here. I used AA for about two matches with my ScAR, and found exactly what you did. But I am not sure if u noticed the slight 'snap' when you first ADS (almost like Call of Quickscope.) If people are finding a way to 'constantly quickscope' then this may be the reason for the outcry.

I picked up a fcuking controller today the **** is fcuking stupid, I literally hover around your model and it pulls me centered for ads and hipfire.

I want one of these idiots to go pick up a keyboard and mouse and witness the utter throw up they gave us.

No it won't, you need to keep it on the target. When you swing back super fast on the joystick to stay on target it slows down. It's easier to figure out where they are now you just feel it slow down and fire that's true.

But nothing is bending, the aim does not auto adjust, you adjust the aim. it's just easier since you don't have to use skill at slowing down the aim manually with lighter input it does the work for you. *I hate it it throws off my aim other than with the laser in which case... The faster the RoF the more the aim assist is effective....

also you turn faster while in ADS now than hipfire. This might be part of the issue too.

I picked up a fcuking controller today the **** is fcuking stupid, I literally hover around your model and it pulls me centered for ads and hipfire.

I want one of these idiots to go pick up a keyboard and mouse and witness the utter throw up they gave us.

I picked up a fcuking controller today the **** is fcuking stupid, I literally hover around your model and it pulls me centered for ads and hipfire.

I want one of these idiots to go pick up a keyboard and mouse and witness the utter throw up they gave us.

On the other hand, a seperate issue I feel concerns aim assist, I have killed people AFTER they go out sight. Meaning they duck behind a wall and my AR would fire off a few more rounds and go THROUGH THE WALL and kill them. Is this part of the hit detection changes? If so it doesn't seem to quite understand cover. I was also killed by an AR twice after getting behind cover for sure..

I used a controller for the first time in 6+ months playing this game, and noticed the insane aim assist right away.

The aim assist for a controller is so good, there's almost no reason to use a mouse, especially considering how messed up ADS is for KB+M right now.

Play with a controller then.

Kbm shouldn't be implemented in the fist place.

Half the problem has been CCP trying to sort out to aiming systems

So I've done a lot testing today... The only aim assiantance is that some weapons now Sloooooow down while hip firing or ADS while over a target.

Other weapons do not have this drag. However I read a lot of people saying that if you stay still your gun will just move to a targets head... So I tested this on bad players with every single weapon. I used a proto gallente scout with proto damps so I wouldn't get spotted and an active scanner.

I would test the aim on target who were not moving and I found the only difference is about a 50% slow down while over the target. This moves even better on a moving target since it seems to match up the speed you are aiming with the speed they are moving. So when a scout was running fast the drag on my aim also seems to be faster so only about a 25% slowdown on my aim when compared to aiming at a still target and moving the aim around him. *note this is why so many scouts like me are getting gunned down, people swing the aim over me and it slows down a bit in the middle while they fire blindly and I get hit more than before by noobs*

However it doesn't readjust your aim towards their head at all... That's a blatant lie people need to stop spreading, it doesn't help with the feedback if it's not real..

On the other hand, a seperate issue I feel concerns aim assist, I have killed people AFTER they go out sight. Meaning they duck behind a wall and my AR would fire off a few more rounds and go THROUGH THE WALL and kill them. Is this part of the hit detection changes? If so it doesn't seem to quite understand cover. I was also killed by an AR twice after getting behind cover for sure.


Final words

Aim assist is nothing more than something that changes the speed/sensitivity while you have the aim over a target. Hip fire and ADS do this, however it more obvious with hip fire. The sensitivity changes based on the speed of the target. Only some weapons have aim assist, and I find it easier to kill people will it off all other other than with the LR in which case I no longer flail the thing wildly all over the place due to it "staying on target" by reducing the effect of the joystick on aiming while over a target.

Mouse users already had this advantage if they were using a mouse with a precision button.

So with it off you just need to learn to ease up on the joystick while over a target to get the same effect. It allows noobs who can only hold the joystick at full tilt nonstop to work the joystick the same way I already do anyways. Honestly I get more kills with it off than on, I don't want something changing my sensitivity while I'm playing without me being in control.

THERE IS NO AIM BOT

However if you at any time stop moving the joystick the aim assist is turned off 100% instantly.

I used a controller for the first time in 6+ months playing this game, and noticed the insane aim assist right away.

The aim assist for a controller is so good, there's almost no reason to use a mouse, especially considering how messed up ADS is for KB+M right now.

This thread needs to be kept alive for as long as possible. As it is pure win.

Those crying aimbot are simply clueless and/or are kb/m users afraid their unfair advantage is now closer to being fair.


CCP, don't you dare nerf the aim-assist. It's probably the same exact way it was in Chromosone and before. So everybody who QQ's now and was around when aim-assist was live in every other build (and part of Uprising too) should be deemed irrelevant.

That was my experience as well as I tested my controller to have a solid comparison...

Lol it's funny cause in 1.3 as a heavy i was doing great now...1.4 is here and i'm doing bad it's like those dudes with ARS just kill me even faster then before something is up so if u can't beat them join them.

This slow down or "sticky" is sickly prominate at mid to long range, if your oponent is just alitle guy in the distance than the area of "sticky" is all you have to aim for for almost ALL your shots to hit them. Making dodging a poor shot imposible. I never had it drift for the head, but I can hip fire my laser in just around the sticky area and the laser will bend tward them hitting them even if im not moving my gun.

As a corp mate today said "I feel like im playing Wanted where our bulets will curve trough the air and hit people around corners"

So yeah just move your gun around till if feels sticky and spray, Aimassist will do the rest for you.

So I've done a lot testing today... The only aim assiantance is that some weapons now Sloooooow down while hip firing or ADS while over a target.

Other weapons do not have this drag. However I read a lot of people saying that if you stay still your gun will just move to a targets head... So I tested this on bad players with every single weapon. I used a proto gallente scout with proto damps so I wouldn't get spotted and an active scanner.

I would test the aim on target who were not moving and I found the only difference is about a 50% slow down while over the target. This moves even better on a moving target since it seems to match up the speed you are aiming with the speed they are moving. So when a scout was running fast the drag on my aim also seems to be faster so only about a 25% slowdown on my aim when compared to aiming at a still target and moving the aim around him. *note this is why so many scouts like me are getting gunned down, people swing the aim over me and it slows down a bit in the middle while they fire blindly and I get hit more than before by noobs*

However it doesn't readjust your aim towards their head at all... That's a blatant lie people need to stop spreading, it doesn't help with the feedback if it's not real..

On the other hand, a seperate issue I feel concerns aim assist, I have killed people AFTER they go out sight. Meaning they duck behind a wall and my AR would fire off a few more rounds and go THROUGH THE WALL and kill them. Is this part of the hit detection changes? If so it doesn't seem to quite understand cover. I was also killed by an AR twice after getting behind cover for sure.


Final words

Aim assist is nothing more than something that changes the speed/sensitivity while you have the aim over a target. Hip fire and ADS do this, however it more obvious with hip fire. The sensitivity changes based on the speed of the target. Only some weapons have aim assist, and I find it easier to kill people will it off all other other than with the LR in which case I no longer flail the thing wildly all over the place due to it "staying on target" by reducing the effect of the joystick on aiming while over a target.

Mouse users already had this advantage if they were using a mouse with a precision button.

So with it off you just need to learn to ease up on the joystick while over a target to get the same effect. It allows noobs who can only hold the joystick at full tilt nonstop to work the joystick the same way I already do anyways. Honestly I get more kills with it off than on, I don't want something changing my sensitivity while I'm playing without me being in control.

THERE IS NO AIM BOT

However if you at any time stop moving the joystick the aim assist is turned off 100% instantly.