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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:21:00 -
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The aim assist is much stronger than the OP is letting on. I would recommend the OP perform all his/her test again, but instead of just putting crosshairs on a target, quickly tap the Fire button while doing so.
I am an AR user and i'm just over a month in and approaching 3.5 million SP. From what I have experienced with the new aim assist, as long as I am rapidly tapping the R1 (Fire) Button (as opposed to just holding it) once 2-4 of my rounds hit the enemy my gun begins to "track" the enemy (as long as I keep firing) with ALMOST no input from me. Even if the enemy is strafing or jumping, doesn't matter. Now i'm not saying my crosshair is jumping 85 degrees and locking onto a guys head all by itself. I'm saying that if I open up on a guy, score a few hits, and keep firing, when he goes to strafe or jump as long as I give the right stick a slight bump in the general direction of his movement every, say half second (maybe less, maybe more), my crosshairs stay locked on the guy.
All of this happens over the course of maybe 2 seconds absolute max, not long I know, but an eternity when you are shooting at someone/getting shot at. Maybe i'm just imagining things..........
My average KDR pre patch was probably something like 9/7 or 7/10 or something like that. Yesterday I was hitting 17/7 and 23/14 type KDRs all day. Pre patch I was awful with the AR past medium range, yesterday I was consistently killing clones at looooooong range within 3/4 of a second.
I know they worked on the hit detection also, and that together with the aim assist may be making things seem disproportionately wacky, and maybe my mind is playing tricks on me a little, but i'll say this: Aim Assist (in my opinion) needs to be "turned down" or whatever by at least 50%. I have benefited immensely from the Aim Assist from a statistical point of view, but it's not making me a better player. I know some people could give a **** about being a better player and just want good looking stats, which is fine, but I think some level of required skill needs to be preserved and I feel the current Aim Assist system is overshadowing skill a little to much.
That being said, am I going to have Aim Assist on? You're god damn right I am lol. To powerful to pass up, hopefully the data post patch justifies turning it down.
EDIT: Oh, and I almost exclusively use ADS. I rarely hip fire, and have not done any hip fire testing post patch. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:39:00 -
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Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:You may have a problem with this while zig zaging did work in last build i have tried it a bit in 1.4 and alway found cover to be more effective if you zig zag too often then you cross the stream of now hitdetection correct rounds headed your way do this to many times youll die any way
Yeah from what I've seen so far the emphasis on cover has increased by a massive amount. Best bet for heavy fights seems to be find the front line, find some cover, pop out for a quick second, kill someone, back into cover, ect. The distance between 2 sides in fire fights now feels like it's increased by a few meters, people seem a bit more timid to rush now that everyone is so accurate. All in all the general feel of matches feels like it has changed (at least to me). Not saying it's good or bad, just throwing my 2 cents into the pile. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:42:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:^^ post a video showing this, use a webcam to record your hands
Your aim will NOT MOVE without INPUT
This whole nonsense of "just keep firing without using the joystick and your aim will move" doesn't happen it just doesn't.
so your saying your aim will move, a lot, even if you don't touch the joysticks at all...
also please confrim are you moving the joystick a little while firing? is there some combo of moving the joystick slightly while rapidly firing? help me recreate your conditions.
Please read my post again. You missed some key words which make your post invalid. |
Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:02:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Funny how I asked you for more details but you throw a hissy fit, I'm sorry but I don't listen to posts like yours and neither does CCP. They said it outright, try a better attitude.
I didn't call you dumb, bad, inept, and unobservant. I asked for more details.
Hey chief, not sure you're aware, but the details you wanted are in my post (the one you wanted details on, which were in the post from the beginning). Anyway, the dude you were arguing with didn't write that post, I did. So I would recommend you read the post again (as I said before), and all your questions will be answered. And since my $10 flip phone doesn't have a camcorder, I can't give you any video evidence. I would imagine with the true Aim Assist issues happening over fractions of seconds(as described in my original post that apparently no one read), video footage is not as reliable a source as you may think it is. |
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