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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3634	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:00:00 - [31] - Quote HyperionsThunder wrote: I think +5-10 for a teammate killing a scanned opponent seems reasonable, but I think scans can also show larger troop movements on the field, and therefore give the team a step up on competition. Therefore, I think there should be some bonus for just scanning an enemy (but in this case, I think there should be some added difficulty to performing a scan, like you can't move when scanning, or moving while scanning greatly reduces the efficacy of the scan). When I wrote my post, my initial impulse was to say 15 points, but I've been thinking about it for a while, and I think 10 would probably be enough. You can light up a LOT of targets at once, so it would be pretty powerful if they gave much more than 10 points and didn't also add a cap like you have on healing (which I also dislike immensely).
Draka Marintu TeamPlayers EoN. 129	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:04:00 - [32] - Quote 5wp would be fine for when a scanned target is killed you can't really farm that much If you consider an ambushoms has 80clones it's only a maximum of 400 wp per match and that's if every target that you scan is killed I also think there should be a bonus of 2wp for destroying scanned equipment but no bonus for installations or vehicles
Kage Roth Wolf-Monkey Bastards 50	Posted - 2013.09.05 09:58:00 - [33] - Quote I want the +2 WP assist reward and to use the scanner right before an orbital. While it would really only net me 10-16 WP it would be amazingly gratifying.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 142	Posted - 2013.09.05 10:04:00 - [34] - Quote +10 WP kill assist on scanned targets.
Adiran Zanzalin DUST University Ivy League 6	Posted - 2013.09.05 10:11:00 - [35] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: The active scanner has now become an essential piece of equipment for any organized squad. What does the community think would be suitable as far as its WP reward? I personally, like two methods. A) Have it count as an Assist when a painted Target is killed/captured. Possibly with lesser gains than an actual assist. OR B) A straight up 5 - 10 WP bonus for each Target that is scanned. This would have a WP cap similar to the repair tool. What do you guys think? Have any ideas of your own? Just 1 WP per target. Then have a cap of say 500. Encourages heavy use wich improves teams performance and unless they clump up en mass you won't cap points out very much.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 221	Posted - 2013.09.05 10:16:00 - [36] - Quote I'd be happy with, say, a kind of Kill Assist (after all it is) but maybe lessen it to 10/20 WP Other than that just scanning seems an easy way to farm points without any benefit. But also include assists for helping destroy equipment as they are much harder to find now.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1662	Posted - 2013.09.05 10:19:00 - [37] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: +2 when people are scanned. but you have to wait another 30 seconds to get scan WPOn the same group of people I you scanned someone else within the 30 seconds you get wp for scanning them. +5 Wp for having a teammate kill an enemy who was scanned by your scanner pretty freaking solid right here
Washlee Pure Innocence. EoN. 280	Posted - 2013.09.05 10:37:00 - [38] - Quote 1+ For Scan +5 (Maybe lower) For each person killed by your scan
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3673	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:30:00 - [39] - Quote +5 per target scanned. no point for repeat scans on the same target within 30 seconds. +5 per target killed while being scanned. +1 per target scanned. +5 per target killed while being scanned. Or just +10 per target killed whlle being scanned. The latter option seems a lot more practical in the sense of being easily implemented and understood in a dynamic environment. The other options are probably better in terms of reward, but it would be more difficult to actually code into the game, and more difficult to keep track of while you're playing. The "more difficult to keep track of" part isn't really a problem, imo, but CCP seem set on catering to some degree to the typical console FPS crowd, and some of them have issues in that regard.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 884	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:32:00 - [40] - Quote I think 5-10 WP for anybody I paint and is killed while painted(or maybe like 2 or 3 seconds after) would be nice. But honestly, scanning is its own reward.

THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 310	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:34:00 - [41] - Quote yeah lets hide in a corner , scan into oblivion and back and spam orbitals
Lorhak Gannarsein Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:47:00 - [42] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: yeah lets hide in a corner , scan into oblivion and back and spam orbitals Because that's the goal as stated by every poster in this thread. Get back under your bridge.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1227	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:52:00 - [43] - Quote If the active sanner gets WP then the vehicle scanners should get WP also
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3677	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:55:00 - [44] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: yeah lets hide in a corner , scan into oblivion and back and spam orbitals Yep. With those proposed 1 SP per scan options, we'd only need to scan 2500 people before getting an orbital. It's not like team sizes are only 16 a side or anything silly like that.
demonkiller 12 G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention 172	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:02:00 - [45] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: The active scanner has now become an essential piece of equipment for any organized squad. What does the community think would be suitable as far as its WP reward? I personally, like two methods. A) Have it count as an Assist when a painted Target is killed/captured. Possibly with lesser gains than an actual assist. OR B) A straight up 5 - 10 WP bonus for each Target that is scanned. This would have a WP cap similar to the repair tool. What do you guys think? Have any ideas of your own? If you can be bothered searching i made a thread just after the scanner was released with my idea of how the WP reward should work not that i remember what it said anymore but a dev came along and confirmed they were doing the exact thing i suggested
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 248	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:02:00 - [46] - Quote Just putting this out there, at +2 for every red dot killed , even if you scan and have 100 red dots killed (Which is like a whole entire team most games, usually less) you are only going to get 200wp. Make the reward similar to wp earned from repairing, nanohives, uplinks etc...
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 172	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:14:00 - [47] - Quote Honestly I don't think there needs to be any WP reward for scanning. The advantages it gives are enough as is - even OP to an extent. I've ditched my repper/needle to use the scanner and don't miss them at all. The points I made from repping/reviving have just been replaced by kill points from awesome multiple grenade kills, flanking attacks, etc.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 250	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:23:00 - [48] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: The active scanner has now become an essential piece of equipment for any organized squad. What does the community think would be suitable as far as its WP reward? I personally, like two methods. A) Have it count as an Assist when a painted Target is killed/captured. Possibly with lesser gains than an actual assist. OR B) A straight up 5 - 10 WP bonus for each Target that is scanned. This would have a WP cap similar to the repair tool. What do you guys think? Have any ideas of your own? Planetside 2 uses method A for Infiltrator Recon darts (same basic idea as scanners) and it works really well. You get +10 xp per target killed under your dart which is like 3% of the XP of a kill. Not OP but can rack up if you do dedicated darting on the frontlines.
Gundo Sens Spacechips 16	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:55:00 - [49] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: The active scanner has now become an essential piece of equipment for any organized squad. What does the community think would be suitable as far as its WP reward? I personally, like two methods. A) Have it count as an Assist when a painted Target is killed/captured. Possibly with lesser gains than an actual assist. OR B) A straight up 5 - 10 WP bonus for each Target that is scanned. This would have a WP cap similar to the repair tool. What do you guys think? Have any ideas of your own? If you can be bothered searching i made a thread just after the scanner was released with my idea of how the WP reward should work not that i remember what it said anymore but a dev came along and confirmed they were doing the exact thing i suggested I found your thread demon... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=971004#post971004 Thanks for pointing that out.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3679	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:03:00 - [50] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: Planetside 2 uses method A for Infiltrator Recon darts (same basic idea as scanners) and it works really well. You get +10 xp per target killed under your dart which is like 3% of the XP of a kill. Not OP but can rack up if you do dedicated darting on the frontlines. For comparison's sake, how many enemies are likely to be in the area of effect for the dart? And how many points is a kill worth normally? And how long does a dart's effect last? I would play PS2 myself, but my PC isn't up to handling that.

King Bolly Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers 3	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:05:00 - [51] - Quote 5 wp per target. the catch... you cant get points for the target again untill he has died.
King Bolly Hostile Acquisition Inc The Superpowers 3	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:06:00 - [52] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: If the active sanner gets WP then the vehicle scanners should get WP also Oh Yea.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 250	Posted - 2013.09.07 05:48:00 - [53] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Shion Typhon wrote: Planetside 2 uses method A for Infiltrator Recon darts (same basic idea as scanners) and it works really well. You get +10 xp per target killed under your dart which is like 3% of the XP of a kill. Not OP but can rack up if you do dedicated darting on the frontlines. For comparison's sake, how many enemies are likely to be in the area of effect for the dart? And how many points is a kill worth normally? And how long does a dart's effect last? I would play PS2 myself, but my PC isn't up to handling that. Given the large maps it could be anywhere between 3 people and 60 people within a darts range (about 50ish metres at max skill). Planetside's XP system is complex and a kill could be between 50xp and 600xp for someone who is on a massive killstreak. Darts give 10xp per kill and last around 30s from memory. From memory there is also a limit on how rapidly you can earn it so you don't get 30x10 xp when a tank fires into a mass of infantry. On average popping down a well placed dart in a major fight is usually worth between half a kill and up to 1-2 kills.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 820	Posted - 2013.09.07 06:17:00 - [54] - Quote Have it work the same way Resistance 3 did it. You spot an enemy, if someone kills that enemy while they have been spotted you get assist points. If you kill that person you don't get points. Shouldn't give you anything for just scanning them. The advantages of using the scanner is good enough.
dullrust Subsonic Synthetics 26	Posted - 2013.09.07 07:00:00 - [55] - Quote +1 for an enemy painted.+2 for that enemy killed while painted.+1 for enemy equipment destruction while painted.+4 for enemy installation destruction or cap while painted and same for vehicle.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 772	Posted - 2013.09.07 07:05:00 - [56] - Quote I think a +5 for each enemy scanned but you only get it once till they have been killed, that way spamming scans doesn't farm wp. so you could get a total of 80 wp if you scanned all 16 but wouldn't get anymore +5wp until one died, then if you scanned them all again after only one dies you would get +5 for the guy who respawned.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1771	Posted - 2013.09.07 07:29:00 - [57] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: If the active sanner gets WP then the vehicle scanners should get WP also i was also gonna post this. This is VERY important that vehicles get rewarded for scanners as well, especially since everyone seems to want vehicles to die if they get close to infantry. This by nature would be a dangerous thing for a vehicle as it would require close proximity. WP should be the same for vehicles as infantry, Also, no complaining about vehicles having their scanner on for long durations, our precision on our mod is nothing like the proto infantry scanners. Across the board - 1 wp for scanning an enemy entity, which refreshes for more warpoints every minute (scan duration lasts for a while) 1 wp for a scanned equipment destruction 5 wp for a scanned enemy death 5 wp for a scanned enemy LAV destruction 10 wp for a scanned enemy dropship destruction 20 wp for a scanned enemy tank destruction no wp reward for things being killed/destroyed after a scan has finished its duration


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