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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
57
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:43:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too? Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse
Really it doesn't aim for you? seriously don't use protip's if u can't tell the difference between your input and a computer generated aim toggle button.
Any competent person who log's on everyday to actually get better, and doesn't think the game should be made easy... so they can compete... knows this... your just calling yourself out in this defense.
Aim assists are designed to assist you wit fine point aiming not allow you to look in the general direction and toggle a button.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:45:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too? Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse Really it doesn't aim for you? seriously don't use protip's if u can't tell the difference between your input and a computer generated aim toggle button. Any competent person who log's on everyday to actually get better, and doesn't think the game should be made easy... so they can compete... knows this... your just calling yourself out in this defense. Aim assists are designed to assist you wit fine point aiming not allow you to look in the general direction and toggle a button. And that's what it does. Aiming isn't that different for me.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
552
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:50:00 -
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Maybe the aim assist is a little bit too strong, but if it can help the new players and to have more players in general , i support it You are a special player super good at aiming Aim the head, problem solved |
Jammeh McJam
Robbing The Hood Public Disorder.
23
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:50:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too? Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse Really it doesn't aim for you? seriously don't use protip's if u can't tell the difference between your input and a computer generated aim toggle button. Any competent person who log's on everyday to actually get better, and doesn't think the game should be made easy... so they can compete... knows this... your just calling yourself out in this defense. Aim assists are designed to assist you wit fine point aiming not allow you to look in the general direction and toggle a button.
exactly |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
57
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:52:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too? Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse Really it doesn't aim for you? seriously don't use protip's if u can't tell the difference between your input and a computer generated aim toggle button. Any competent person who log's on everyday to actually get better, and doesn't think the game should be made easy... so they can compete... knows this... your just calling yourself out in this defense. Aim assists are designed to assist you wit fine point aiming not allow you to look in the general direction and toggle a button. And that's what it does. Aiming isn't that different for me.
Pretty much explained who you are right there... Sadly most FPS players who call themselfs competitive, log on everyday to practice their aim and get better. Your completely fine with how everything is and your aim is no different....
The other players will tell how much their aim has improved from chromosome and now has been nullified by people who think there should be an "easy" mode for DUST 514 |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
370
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:54:00 -
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Don't have a problem with Aim Assist just remove ARs from being able to use it. The AR outshines every other weapon with AA, since they lose nothing in 35-40 meters in any situation, and still maintain their ridiculously high DPS. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
174
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:04:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too? Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse Really it doesn't aim for you? seriously don't use protip's if u can't tell the difference between your input and a computer generated aim toggle button. Any competent person who log's on everyday to actually get better, and doesn't think the game should be made easy... so they can compete... knows this... your just calling yourself out in this defense. Aim assists are designed to assist you wit fine point aiming not allow you to look in the general direction and toggle a button. And that's what it does. Aiming isn't that different for me. Pretty much explained who you are right there... Sadly most FPS players who call themselfs competitive, log on everyday to practice their aim and get better. Your completely fine with how everything is and your aim is no different.... The other players will tell how much their aim has improved from chromosome and now has been nullified by people who think there should be an "easy" mode for DUST 514 *facepalm* I can aim on target WITHOUT aim assist
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Cosgar
ParagonX
4737
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:06:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Don't have a problem with Aim Assist just remove ARs from being able to use it. The AR outshines every other weapon with AA, since they lose nothing in 35-40 meters in any situation, and still maintain their ridiculously high DPS. That's... actually a good idea. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1038
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:08:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's called hit detection working, and you standing still so you can get shot, instead of sticking to cover. Strafing was never a good tactical decision, it was just something born from bad mechanics. The AR didn't have its damage increased, and your HP wasn't decreased, you're just being punished for not paying better attention to your surroundings. And again, the only ones who should be complaining are heavies and scouts, who as usual, are hit the hardest by this in that scouts are the easiest to kill when hit, and heavies are the easiest to hit. The only thing that took no skill was dancing side to side and shooting down the way. (not to say you were strafing since it was never mentioned, but I imagine it's these types of players who stayed away from cover in favor of disco dancing out in the open who seem to be hurt the most by this change) Strafing gave this game something special. Something that other shooters didn't have. Just because YOU couldn't strafe doesn't mean it was a bad mechanic.
How did strafing take no skill? Because to me.. Only the pros who had skill, did it.
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First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
921
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:18:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's called hit detection working, and you standing still so you can get shot, instead of sticking to cover. Strafing was never a good tactical decision, it was just something born from bad mechanics. The AR didn't have its damage increased, and your HP wasn't decreased, you're just being punished for not paying better attention to your surroundings. And again, the only ones who should be complaining are heavies and scouts, who as usual, are hit the hardest by this in that scouts are the easiest to kill when hit, and heavies are the easiest to hit. The only thing that took no skill was dancing side to side and shooting down the way. (not to say you were strafing since it was never mentioned, but I imagine it's these types of players who stayed away from cover in favor of disco dancing out in the open who seem to be hurt the most by this change) Strafing gave this game something special. Something that other shooters didn't have. Just because YOU couldn't strafe doesn't mean it was a bad mechanic. How did strafing take no skill? Because to me.. Only the pros who had skill, did it well A lot of people seem to feel like strafing is a no skill tactic, when really it's a different style for a different type of game. It's just what you do in a strafe shooter. And dust has been a strafe shooter. And while I don't personally have a problem with the game moving towards being lower health/higer damage, the whole game will have to be redesigned if that's the route CCP wants to take, and I'm not sure that's the best decision for this game right now. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
782
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:30:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too?
Poor comparison. If you good, you're good. You would find pleasure in beating those who have aim assist on. |
HyperionsThunder
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
29
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:35:00 -
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Isn't this post an example of trolling? I mean, of course people are going to complain about aim-assist, now it is a lot easier to mow people down, and Dust is a culture of complaining when you get killed for any reason. |
Beck Weathers
High-Damage
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:39:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too? Poor comparison. If you good, you're good. You would find pleasure in beating those who have aim assist on.
I thinks its a decent coparison, being "good" is more than just being good at aiming, its being good at Aiming while dodging shots, troughing off enemy aim and still being able to track your oponent with all the acrobatics. AimAssist might aswell play the game for you, you just kinda just control the legs now.
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J0LLY R0G3R
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
86
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:41:00 -
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Eh I'd rather them take it back out.
Is this how they plan on weaning people off AOE weapons, maybe by making it easy as possible to hit something. While ur at it remove ADS, hip fire for everyone. XD |
Severus Smith
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
284
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:45:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Don't have a problem with Aim Assist just remove ARs from being able to use it. The AR outshines every other weapon with AA, since they lose nothing in 35-40 meters in any situation, and still maintain their ridiculously high DPS. This. +1
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Foxbat 072
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:46:00 -
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Kinda sad that anyone would need a diaper to play this game |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
471
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:46:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist Protip: don't stand still and shoot back
I was behind a guy, and somehow he still shot me. Another time I was jumping, a guy wasn't even aiming at me, and killed me. |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:01:00 -
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If people don't like aim assist why not turn it off. I tried both ways and still played the same way. Right now it's on and I've pretty much have been using militia gear minus my Assault every now and then. Even used a militia shotgun and light suit combo and got 3 kills with it.
I don't mind it personally. At least people are having fun which matters more. |
GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
131
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:05:00 -
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Aim assist was in the old build. Why are people crying about it now? Is it because it actually made it so they cant run out in the open anymore. I say look at the fact of how many people that ARE NOT crying about it. It tops of how many people are.
I for one am happy now that players cant just run from point A to point B. I'm a heavy and the aim assist doesn't really effects me. I know its working for AR and ScR.
CCP aim assist in. I like it more then I hate it. People are just upset that they are being killed more now because people can AIM now. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
180
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:58:00 -
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Just went 25-2 with aim assist off. Its not a problem. We might get the 10% damage buff all weapons got a while ago taken away if people really think that we die to fast now. |
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote: Shots pretty much did register about the same but with more drastic hitbox latency. But back then, the upper tier rifles would kick like donkeys earlier in the clip. Now the AR has laser precision thanks to the new sharpshooting skill.
Hmm but the sharpshooter skill is not new. In chromosome th AR operation skill gave 5% reduction to Recoil AND bullet spread. The new sharpshooter skill was actually a nerf for the AR... |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3436
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:14:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:The forums are being spammed by KB/M and "no aim-assist controller" eliteists who are upset controller users can compete again because we have aim assist like any other console fps. Ban them nao plz Actually, Cat Merc, Arkena, and I have been comparing info and checking videos on YouTube and Twitch and it appears that the aim assist "adherence" is dependent on the speed of your target.
At one point we watched Jungian shoot at this Caldari suit only 50 feet away, and the guy was just missing around him.
He then started to strafe quickly to the side, as he uses a Minmatar Logi suit, and it was as if that Caldari player had a lock on like something out of Section 8, and he just took down his remaining armor instantly with every shot landing. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
280
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:47:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist
So you think because you spent more time in this game than some people they shouldn't be able to kill you? Really!? Have you ever really looked at the differences from militia to proto on gear it is surprisingly little. Not to mention that guy using militia gear might actually be a vet who has proficiency 5 in that weapon and is using militia to kick your ass because its cheap |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
281
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:49:00 -
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No one should be banned for having an opinion, period. I think the aimbot crowd is QQing personally, but I would rather argue with them than ban them for having a different opinion than I do. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:50:00 -
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There are actually 2 variations, magnetism and adhesion, magnetism is related to strafing, normally when you strafe, your aim translates with you!! However people counter that by aiming in the other direction, this usally cause parralx where it hinges on a point between the two players! Magnetism means that that when you attempt to readjust, sensitive drops causing a drag like effect. Adhesion works when the player attempts to track a moving player, the sensitivity adjusts to reduce flicking back and forth over a target because you keep going to far!! It changes based on the speed of your target, this means when a target start sprinting the sensitivity adjusts to keep up, this makes it feel like you are being dragged, there are not headshot wander or behind wall tracking, stopping input stops aim assist as it is still dependent on your input!-á
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:51:00 -
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Basically aim assist is punishment for all the keyboard players who were exploiting the adad strafing. It's not surprising that if they're not moving from their actual position and just piddling back and forth on place that the lock would be harder. If you think about it, all it does is follow the player, and if the step back in front of the line of fire the aim assist has less distance to follow to the target... |
stcinla
Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:52:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist both true what a D*ck |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
181
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:54:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:No one should be banned for having an opinion, period. I think the aimbot crowd is QQing personally, but I would rather argue with them than ban them for having a different opinion than I do. I was trolling, i dont accually want anyone banned Im serious about aim assist being fine though |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
281
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:57:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Basically aim assist is punishment for all the keyboard players who were exploiting the adad strafing. It's not surprising that if they're not moving from their actual position and just piddling back and forth on place that the lock would be harder.
Thank you sir, this is exactly what I have been saying! These kids that think that moving in a tight little circle while firing and not being able to hit while doing so is tactics and skill. With aim assist on this EXPLOIT (yeah I called it that) no longer works and they are having a tantrum on the forums. |
stcinla
Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:07:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's called hit detection working, and you standing still so you can get shot, instead of sticking to cover. Strafing was never a good tactical decision, it was just something born from bad mechanics. The AR didn't have its damage increased, and your HP wasn't decreased, you're just being punished for not paying better attention to your surroundings. And again, the only ones who should be complaining are heavies and scouts, who as usual, are hit the hardest by this in that scouts are the easiest to kill when hit, and heavies are the easiest to hit. The only thing that took no skill was dancing side to side and shooting down the way. (not to say you were strafing since it was never mentioned, but I imagine it's these types of players who stayed away from cover in favor of disco dancing out in the open who seem to be hurt the most by this change) im a heavy and I cant do sh*t u ppl say get to cover I try but as a heavy I die trying to walk away u ppl say hit them from the side I walk around them 1 sees me tells his budy and I die from a head shout doing 4000 dmg I only have 1000 in all I fell just as bad for my scout friend cuz he dies in 2 hits |
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