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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 15:59:00 -
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 The forums are being spammed by KB/M and "no aim-assist controller" eliteists who are upset controller users can compete again because we have aim assist like any other console fps. Ban them nao plz
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 
 798
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:01:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:The forums are being spammed by KB/M and "no aim-assist controller" eliteists who are upset controller users can compete again because we have aim assist like any other console fps. Ban them nao plz Ban stupid people like this^ and let us have discussions without going 1984 on us
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        |  Jammeh McJam
 Robbing The Hood
 Public Disorder.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:02:00 -
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 1: D*ck move
 
 2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6075
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:02:00 -
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 Aim assist probably is just a hair too strong, but it's not as bad as the tears make it out to be.
 
 
 
 
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6075
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:03:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear...
 
 It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while....
 
 FLUX double post my bad.
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:04:00 -
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 This is why ARs need more drastic kick and dispersion.
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        |  Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
 Chatelain Rapid Response
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:04:00 -
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 aim here to hit
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:04:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
 2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist
 Protip: don't stand still and shoot back
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        |  Rinzler XVII
 Forsaken Immortals
 Top Men.
 
 56
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:06:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
 2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist
 
 To quote many a Vet on every single new player issue I have ever made .. Get good stop tryign to hero 3 ppl by yourself in proto gear, if im smart enough to sneak behind and flank you and shoot you in the back you should die .. honestly how hard is it to use cover .. to many vets think they have a god given right to kill ppl with worse gear than them even if they play poorly
 
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        |  Jammeh McJam
 Robbing The Hood
 Public Disorder.
 
 22
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:07:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. 
 when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever
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        |  Ranger SnakeBlood
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 172
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:10:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:This is why ARs need more drastic kick and dispersion. 
 Recoil yes +1
 Dispersion while firing from hip sure, not while Aiming down sights no thats what recoil is for.
 
 In my opinion this should be most weapon and recoil should be based on DPS, more DPS more recoil.
 
 This coming from a AR user.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6079
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:10:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's called hit detection working, and you standing still so you can get shot, instead of sticking to cover.
 
 Strafing was never a good tactical decision, it was just something born from bad mechanics. The AR didn't have its damage increased, and your HP wasn't decreased, you're just being punished for not paying better attention to your surroundings.
 
 And again, the only ones who should be complaining are heavies and scouts, who as usual, are hit the hardest by this in that scouts are the easiest to kill when hit, and heavies are the easiest to hit.
 
 The only thing that took no skill was dancing side to side and shooting down the way.
 
 (not to say you were strafing since it was never mentioned, but I imagine it's these types of players who stayed away from cover in favor of disco dancing out in the open who seem to be hurt the most by this change)
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:14:00 -
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 Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:Cosgar wrote:This is why ARs need more drastic kick and dispersion. Recoil yes +1 Dispersion while firing from hip sure, not while Aiming down sights no thats what recoil is for. In my opinion this should be most weapon and recoil should be based on DPS, more DPS more recoil. This coming from a AR user. The standard AR is meant to be the easy to use "go to" weapon, but it's way too easy to use and always has been. The TAC and Burst are back now but the standard is still too dominant.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:24:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's the ARs fault, not aim assist.
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        |  Michael Arck
 Anubis Prime Syndicate
 
 776
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:27:00 -
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 Lol wow really? That's a little much don't you think?
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        |  Bethhy
 Ancient Exiles
 
 56
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:28:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's the ARs fault, not aim assist. 
 
 aAHAHAHAHAHAHAH your funny pretending like chromosome never existed, where bullets registered better then they do now.
 A place where aim assists worked perfect. This isn't about bullets actually registering its about a majority of them hitting heads when they have no right to.
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        |  Jade Hasegawa
 Intrepidus XI
 EoN.
 
 89
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:29:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's called hit detection working, and you standing still so you can get shot, instead of sticking to cover.  Strafing was never a good tactical decision, it was just something born from bad mechanics. The AR didn't have its damage increased, and your HP wasn't decreased, you're just being punished for not paying better attention to your surroundings.  And again, the only ones who should be complaining are heavies and scouts, who as usual, are hit the hardest by this in that scouts are the easiest to kill when hit, and heavies are the easiest to hit.  The only thing that took no skill was dancing side to side and shooting down the way.  (not to say you were strafing since it was never mentioned, but I imagine it's these types of players who stayed away from cover in favor of disco dancing out in the open who seem to be hurt the most by this change) I use cover but ame still getting merked by MLT AR from welloutside the effective range of my TOXIN OR GEK AR that to me shows its too high a setting
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        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 840
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:29:00 -
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 i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
 
 if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too?
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        |  Minor Treat
 The Enclave Syndicate
 Dark Taboo
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:30:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
 2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist
 simple use cover.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:31:00 -
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 Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's the ARs fault, not aim assist. aAHAHAHAHAHAHAH your funny pretending like chromosome never existed, where bullets registered better then they do now. A place where aim assists worked perfect. This isn't about bullets actually registering its about a majority of them hitting heads when they have no right to. Aim assist targets the body. I played chromosome and it felt similar to this
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        |  Jammeh McJam
 Robbing The Hood
 Public Disorder.
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:32:00 -
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 Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's the ARs fault, not aim assist. aAHAHAHAHAHAHAH your funny pretending like chromosome never existed, where bullets registered better then they do now. A place where aim assists worked perfect. This isn't about bullets actually registering its about a majority of them hitting heads when they have no right to. 
 YES
 
 I was trying to say something along those lines but I couldn't word it properly
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:32:00 -
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 calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
 if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too?
 Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6082
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:33:00 -
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 Jade Hasegawa wrote:I use cover but ame still getting merked by MLT AR from welloutside the effective range of my TOXIN OR GEK AR that to me shows its too high a setting Perhaps it's more of an issue with how easy ARs to use, as opposed to how much aim assist is helping.
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        |  Rinzler XVII
 Forsaken Immortals
 Top Men.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:33:00 -
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 Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever 
 Don't use proto gear in pub games you protoscrubbing pubstomper .. serves you right .. cant wait to taste all your lovely tears when you watch 100k + suits go down the drain to my free militia fit
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        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 3597
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:34:00 -
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 Reported for spam and flame-baiting.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 170
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:35:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Jade Hasegawa wrote:I use cover but ame still getting merked by MLT AR from welloutside the effective range of my TOXIN OR GEK AR that to me shows its too high a setting Perhaps it's more of an issue with how easy ARs to use, as opposed to how much aim assist is helping.  It seems the only complaints about aim assist are with ARs so I think it's that
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6082
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:36:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jade Hasegawa wrote:I use cover but ame still getting merked by MLT AR from welloutside the effective range of my TOXIN OR GEK AR that to me shows its too high a setting Perhaps it's more of an issue with how easy ARs to use, as opposed to how much aim assist is helping.  It seems the only complaints about aim assist are with ARs so I think it's that Don't get me wrong, the aim assist could very well be a tad too high, but just from my initial impressions it didn't seem to alter my gameplay very much.
 
 Admittedly I haven't sat down to thoroughly test it, but I think people are over reacting and looking only at the surface.
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        |  Bethhy
 Ancient Exiles
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:37:00 -
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 Minor Treat wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:1: D*ck move
 2:whats the point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist
 simple use cover. 
 
 Seriously?.. Battlefield tactic's are a given ... a box is a box is a box in any FPS, it does not change gungame. Toggling a button that puts the aim on target for you... will however ruin the gun game of any game.
 
 OMG THERE WAS A BOX, YOU SHOULD STAND NEXT TO IT YOU WONT DIE DERP.
 
 really? who was fighting without going from cover spot to cover spot? have we all been playing WoW and chatting, making funny emotions in the open field all this time?
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        |  Cosgar
 ParagonX
 
 4735
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:39:00 -
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 Bethhy wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jammeh McJam wrote:2:whats he point in being a 'vet' when you get killed by militia due to overpowered aim assist You aren't a "vet" if you're getting out aimed by someone less skilled than you when you have better gear... It just makes you a noob who's been around for a while.... FLUX double post my bad. when a militia ar hits my proto it takes out all 700 hp in seconds, even people I know to have bad aiming realistically can do it, it involves no skill whatsoever That's the ARs fault, not aim assist. aAHAHAHAHAHAHAH your funny pretending like chromosome never existed, where bullets registered better then they do now. A place where aim assists worked perfect. This isn't about bullets actually registering its about a majority of them hitting heads when they have no right to. Shots pretty much did register about the same but with more drastic hitbox latency. But back then, the upper tier rifles would kick like donkeys earlier in the clip. Now the AR has laser precision thanks to the new sharpshooting skill.
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        |  calisk galern
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 840
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.04 16:43:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:calisk galern wrote:i find the people supporting aim assist funny.
 if you get a google car to drive you places will you call yourself a good driver too?
 Except it dosent aim for you. It makes up for controllers not being as accurate as a mouse 
 depends on who you ask, I've never had any problems with aiming in dust.
 
 I do have problems with what I saw yesterday while using my smg, the controller more or less doing everything but pulling the trigger for me, just need to point in their general direction.
 
 regardless it's easy to see what the flavor of the month will be this time around, even if people want to defend the aimbot it will still push everyone into using AR's.
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