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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:12:00 -
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"New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:21:00 -
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You guys just can't give it a rest? CCP fixed something so give them applause instead of hate and get out of your murder taxi and on the battlefield. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:24:00 -
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General Erick wrote:You guys just can't give it a rest? CCP fixed something so give them applause instead of hate and get out of your murder taxi and on the battlefield. naw i'll just AFK till they fix the reward system. but the point stands a LAV going that fast hitting infantry should kill that infantry without question and caving in was bad move on CCP to do. they messed up on this one by using a band aid rather then fixing the problem that has been stated to them repeatedly. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:31:00 -
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ladwar wrote:General Erick wrote:You guys just can't give it a rest? CCP fixed something so give them applause instead of hate and get out of your murder taxi and on the battlefield. naw i'll just AFK till they fix the reward system. but the point stands a LAV going that fast hitting infantry should kill that infantry without question and caving in was bad move on CCP to do. they messed up on this one. Why should it?
LAVs are meant to kill with turrets, not the bumpers. This is a high health shooter where it takes several shots to kill your enemy, this makes one-hit-kills extremely dangerous as potentially OP. If you're answer is going to be some crap about "realism", then don't bother; we are armored and shielded, and we intertia cancelling technology, our shots somehow magically don't damage our teammates (except in PC), orbital strikes have no effects on MCCs, etc. Realism doesn't matter in this game.
Give me one good reason why it would make the game better for LAVs to be able to 1-hit kill everyone. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:39:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:ladwar wrote:General Erick wrote:You guys just can't give it a rest? CCP fixed something so give them applause instead of hate and get out of your murder taxi and on the battlefield. naw i'll just AFK till they fix the reward system. but the point stands a LAV going that fast hitting infantry should kill that infantry without question and caving in was bad move on CCP to do. they messed up on this one. Why should it? LAVs are meant to kill with turrets, not the bumpers. This is a high health shooter where it takes several shots to kill your enemy, this makes one-hit-kills extremely dangerous as potentially OP. If you're answer is going to be some crap about "realism", then don't bother; we are armored and shielded, and we intertia cancelling technology, our shots somehow magically don't damage our teammates (except in PC), orbital strikes have no effects on MCCs, etc. Realism doesn't matter in this game. Give me one good reason why it would make the game better for LAVs to be able to 1-hit kill everyone. LAV are not meant to kill with turrets.if they were they would have the same accuracy as dropship turrets... and they have no where near that. even standing still. your point is invalid. btw "high health shooter" LOL there is so many ways to OHK that its not funny and your "intertia cancelling technology" should protect from but doesn't. next thing you going to say is that tanks shouldn't crush infantry when dropped on their heads by RDVs because that goes with your same logic there. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:12:00 -
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ladwar wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:ladwar wrote:General Erick wrote:You guys just can't give it a rest? CCP fixed something so give them applause instead of hate and get out of your murder taxi and on the battlefield. naw i'll just AFK till they fix the reward system. but the point stands a LAV going that fast hitting infantry should kill that infantry without question and caving in was bad move on CCP to do. they messed up on this one. Why should it? LAVs are meant to kill with turrets, not the bumpers. This is a high health shooter where it takes several shots to kill your enemy, this makes one-hit-kills extremely dangerous as potentially OP. If you're answer is going to be some crap about "realism", then don't bother; we are armored and shielded, and we intertia cancelling technology, our shots somehow magically don't damage our teammates (except in PC), orbital strikes have no effects on MCCs, etc. Realism doesn't matter in this game. Give me one good reason why it would make the game better for LAVs to be able to 1-hit kill everyone. LAV are not meant to kill with turrets.if they were they would have the same accuracy as dropship turrets... and they have no where near that. even standing still. your point is invalid. btw "high health shooter" LOL there is so many ways to OHK that its not funny and your "intertia cancelling technology" should protect from but doesn't. next thing you going to say is that tanks shouldn't crush infantry when dropped on their heads by RDVs because that goes with your same logic there.
/me facepalms You realize the dropships and LAVs use the same turret right? The whole point of a turret (a freaking mounted gun) is too shoot and kill people, so its just ridiculous to say mounted guns aren't meant to kill. If CCP didn't intend it to kill, then they would not have put them on LAVs.
I didn't say all OHK are unbalanced, I'm saying they have the danger of potentially being OP. There needs to be balancing factors to prevent OHK from being OP. How do you not see that being OHK by something coming out of nowhere with extremely high speeds s fast that there is not time to react, with thousands of HP, and resistant to most weapons would not be a balance problem.
You realize 300-400 is still a lot of damage right? you can take out most of someone's HP, just hit them a second time, or use teamwork with infantry to take down his HP if you want to keep this ridiculous playstyle.
You still haven't provided one reason why it would actually benefit the game to have OHK roadkills. I thought you were just butthurt about your crutch being nerfed, so now I think you're just trolling, so I'm done here. |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:03:00 -
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I hated those damn murder taxis because they would be going slow as hell and still OHK you since you are up a hill so I'm glad that they did something about it. You might as well not complain because I know that with my low health build, it's still possible for me to get OHK at full speed, that's fine. It was nonsense before and that's why they addressed it which I'm glad for. If you have such a problem with it, how about actually picking up a gun and not relying heavily on a vehicle. I tend to not be a fan of vehicles and just equip AV grenades so it's good now that I can't get cheap shot from behind with a car and actually give me time to throw them. |
T8R Raid
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:18:00 -
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I took 18M damage from a murdertaxi once, thank you CCP for the LAV bumber damage BALANCE. a heavy should get stuck on the hood, get pissed, pull a sidearm and pop that dumb@ss driver for dragging him along. a smart driver is gonna go out looking for scouts to bumber mash, cause an assaulter should survive too and do the same thing just more beat up afterwards. |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:42:00 -
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T8R Raid wrote:I took 18M damage from a murdertaxi once, thank you CCP for the LAV bumber damage BALANCE. a heavy should get stuck on the hood, get pissed, pull a sidearm and pop that dumb@ss driver for dragging him along. a smart driver is gonna go out looking for scouts to bumber mash, cause an assaulter should survive too and do the same thing just more beat up afterwards.
That would be a pretty fun idea. |
Tal-Rakken
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:49:00 -
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@op: just get a squadmate to gun, run someone over and have your squadmate gun him to death problem solved. |
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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:00:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: The whole point of a turret (a freaking mounted gun) is too shoot and kill people... If CCP didn't intend it to kill, then they would not have put them on LAVs.
I didn't say all OHK are unbalanced, I'm saying they have the danger of potentially being OP. There needs to be balancing factors to prevent OHK from being OP. How do you not see that being OHK by something coming out of nowhere with extremely high speeds s fast that there is not time to react, with thousands of HP, and resistant to most weapons would not be a balance problem?
You still haven't provided one reason why it would actually benefit the game to have OHK roadkills. I thought you were just butthurt about your crutch being nerfed, so now I think you're just trolling, so I'm done here.
1. they put the turret on for self defense that is different from an attack role. look at assault dropship if you need a better example of a small turret meant to kill and the small turrets on tanks for self defense.
2. you want to treat the symptoms and not the reason. I HATE BAND AIDS TO PROBLEMS, THEY JUST COME BACK. you can look around and see the real problem is in the base 30% resistance that LLAVs have. fix that, that should not be there, it makes them harder to kill then HAVs for no reason. another case of a band aid rather then fixing is in the AFK vs reward system. it rewards players for just showing up and not getting kicked off the game greater then actually playing. that is why people AFK in this game and you don't see it much if at all in other games.
3. its removing depth and skill from the game, its also removing WP from a already low WP gain role. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:02:00 -
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ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do.
If it was me ,LAVs couldnt do 1 EHP damage even at full speed, Just push people around. so be grateful you can at least run oer scouts... |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:04:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. If it was me ,LAVs couldnt do 1 EHP damage even at full speed, Just push people around. so be grateful you can at least run oer scouts... if it was me your gun would explode in your face the minute you spawn in so be grateful you can shoot. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:23:00 -
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ladwar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. If it was me ,LAVs couldnt do 1 EHP damage even at full speed, Just push people around. so be grateful you can at least run oer scouts... if it was me your gun would explode in your face the minute you spawn in so be grateful you can shoot.
ITS A FPS, of course i can shoot.
Murder taxi is lame. Same as you whining about low collision damage.
:3 |
CLONE117
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:28:00 -
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lav bumper should still ohk any and all suits..
the reason this supposed bug was fixed was because the cod lovers want to take everything but there OWN precious gear away...
go play something else if u dont like it!
u ruin this game by bitching...
and when the occasional good idea comes around u all shoot it down like idiots!.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:33:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:lav bumper should still ohk any and all suits..
the reason this supposed bug was fixed was because the cod lovers want to take everything but there OWN precious gear away...
go play something else if u dont like it!
u ruin this game by bitching...
and when the occasional good idea comes around u all shoot it down like idiots!....
I dont play CoD, and yet this: ''lav bumper should still ohk any and all suits..''
It still the stupidest of ideas.... |
CLONE117
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:35:00 -
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but u forget..that it made proto bears scream!..
and those were the best of screams...
if collision damage has been fixed i see we should get free lavs back then.. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:36:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:but u forget..that it made proto bears scream!..
and those were the best of screams...
if collision damage has been fixed i see we should get free lavs back then..
Im a heavy and a scout, i have enough time screaming as it is.
Yeah MLT LAv's could come back as it is, because they will probably be used for the intended use, rapid transportation. |
WeapondigitX V7
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:23:00 -
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ladwar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. If it was me ,LAVs couldnt do 1 EHP damage even at full speed, Just push people around. so be grateful you can at least run oer scouts... if it was me your gun would explode in your face the minute you spawn in so be grateful you can shoot.
I read somewhere that the devs have put a mechanic in patch 1.4 or 1.5 that is meant to kick AFKers from the match after a set time.
if you put nitro on a vehicle maybe that would increase the damage at max speeds. |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:26:00 -
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ladwar wrote:General Erick wrote:You guys just can't give it a rest? CCP fixed something so give them applause instead of hate and get out of your murder taxi and on the battlefield. naw i'll just AFK till they fix the reward system. but the point stands a LAV going that fast hitting infantry should kill that infantry without question and caving in was bad move on CCP to do. they messed up on this one by using a band aid rather then fixing the problem that has been stated to them repeatedly.
you can have your murder taxi back when hitting things does actual damage to the LAV... like popping the front left spring or even fully locking the right side front wheel into a hard lock.
Sound realistic enough for you? ...*batters eyelashes*...hmmmmmmmmm?? |
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Thurak1
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:38:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:ladwar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. If it was me ,LAVs couldnt do 1 EHP damage even at full speed, Just push people around. so be grateful you can at least run oer scouts... if it was me your gun would explode in your face the minute you spawn in so be grateful you can shoot. ITS A FPS, of course i can shoot. Murder taxi is lame. Same as you whining about low collision damage. :3 i agree with king. I am very happy that collision damage has been nerfed to the ground. Its still possible to get kills with a lav but its far more difficult to simply run around all match and rack up a tone of kills. Now if they could make the LLAV a little less indestructable i will be very happy. I know they are meant to be support vehicles for tanks but honestly i think the logi lav's should have to use the tanks as cover while repairing them. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:15:00 -
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I am very happy that collision damage has been nerfed to the ground. Its still possible to get kills with a lav but its far more difficult to simply run around all match and rack up a tone of kills. Now if they could make the LLAV a little less indestructable i will be very happy. I know they are meant to be support vehicles for tanks but honestly i think the logi lav's should have to use the tanks as cover while repairing them NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
*fixed |
Fire of Prometheus
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:25:00 -
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@ all those murder taxi driving nubes
Get out of your car and fight me like a real merc!!! Or better yet! Stay in your car and ill run you over with a tank!!! |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.05 02:46:00 -
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I got to experience the nerf first hand today and I'm so glad that it's there. I was ran over from behind like always with the LAV and a guy on the turret. I was so happy to survive the hit and the guy on the back didn't even do anything. Thanks for this CCP, no more cheap OHK from behind. I can't wait til these vehicle guys start complaining about the AV grenades with the amount of the times they are going to die now. Not being OHK allows you to actually fight back which is always satisfying when you blow up a vehicle. |
bacon blaster
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:49:00 -
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We will go back to the one hit kill murder taxi when either 1 standard av nade will muder the crap out of all lav's or when hitting infantry does significant amounts of damage to an lav.
Until then, murder taxi makes the game unplayable in most of the total map area of the game. And no, the current av weapons were not an effective counter, not with the ridiculous tank on the LLAV. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:17:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:@ all those murder taxi driving nubes
Get out of your car and fight me like a real merc!!! Or better yet! Stay in your car and ill run you over with a tank!!! they nerfed that as well.... even if the LAV and you are at full speeds it will live past it. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:19:00 -
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ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. No Lad its great no more LAV OHKO bullshit. Its about time our dropsuits were paying off. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:20:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:ladwar wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. If it was me ,LAVs couldnt do 1 EHP damage even at full speed, Just push people around. so be grateful you can at least run oer scouts... if it was me your gun would explode in your face the minute you spawn in so be grateful you can shoot. I read somewhere that the devs have put a mechanic in patch 1.4 or 1.5 that is meant to kick AFKers from the match after a set time. if you put nitro on a vehicle maybe that would increase the damage at max speeds. that was with a nitro, and the that anti AFK system is a joke, it doesn't work at all. |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:24:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:ladwar wrote: "New vehicle/infantry collision system & damage tuning to lower the effect of the 'murder taxi' deals to low of damage."
full speed run over only deal around 300-400 damage. a base MLT suit can live past that, is this really intended or did you just go overboard with things like you guys normally do. No Lad its great no more LAV OHKO bullshit. Its about time our dropsuits were paying off. i guess dropsuits are going to get the next round of nerfs then.
*shrug* oh well NERF 514. |
ANGRY HEAVY
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:26:00 -
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Murder taxies were a pain in the ass they are trying so hard to run you over when you can get you lazy butt out of the vehicle and shoot the person how hard is that. Im glad they nerved the lav's it was annoying when i was trying to kill someone and you have an annoying ass murder taxi trying to kill you. |
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