Except installations aren't keeping infinite ammo.

/shreds petition. Vet tanker disagrees.

There is no need to add finite ammo to tanks, if the same 80GJ blaster, rail, and missile installations have infinite ammo, then so should tanks. there was not ONE suggestion or complaint about ammo for tanks. whats interesting is back in chromosome me and my tanker buddies were joking around saying "hey how much would it suck if tanks had ammo!".
this change would be THEEE most unnecessary thing done to dust in its history. sure its great to throw around ideas, however, this should be just that, an idea, not a plan.
VET TANKERS AGREE?

You're taking this one change under isolation. It's not being made by itself. Tanks are likely to get drastically tougher to compensate, and AV is being reworked as well. The vehicles that you use now - hull aside - will not be the vehicles that you pilot in 1.5.

Stop crying about a single change, when the entire system is being rebalanced.

I would like to go around collecting ammo from supply depots that would be fun, and be a challenge. and you can always recall you're tank and get a brand new one if you run out of ammo.

As a member of the anti-nerf movement at face value it looks bad. However if Missiles get back some of the old glory in trade then it will be good.

fine then i'll just stay by a supply depot the whole game. infinite ammo back

If that makes you happy. But Ill be rolling around and enjoying the "driving" of the tank. Who cares if someone destroys your tank, just get another and get back in there like everyone else does.

If they have a slow internal nanohive system it might be bearable. But if they require such a system to be an extra module it will probably go badly.

I don't believe there will be internal nanohives, but Iron Wolf Saber mentioned max ammo modules. I'll link it if I come across it.

meh.....id rather have an ammo skill like infantry.....as it is we get ONE skill per turret, it boring and already more expensive than infantry stuffs per skill.

I would like to specialise or even buy my Ammo since I am essentially using the same stuff as EVE pilots. using Amarrian Frequency Crystals to fire my laser shots which recharge over time, or even buying the missiles or hybrid charges like in mech warrior games.

As a non-tanker, I disagree. I like the finite ammo idea.

However, as someone with a tanker in his corp, I do agree that something needs to be done to balance the new Swarm buff. I don't think they should do anything to tanks until they at least look at what they can do to make it even for tankers and swarms.

i cant believe they buffed swarms to double the DPS an entire patch before 1.5......

but hey, i know they had their reasons and it was probably to balance LLAVs. Tanks and dropships were already broken before so a swarm buff technically didnt change things, just polarized the situation even more.

with the roadkill changes and swarms changes, hopefully infantry can have an easier time of being braindead without having to look both ways when crossing the street. Cause, you know.....god forbid something that isnt an AR kills infantry....

take my logic mixed with sarcasm ROAR

KT ing is so much a problem but when people are jamming there llav through the ashland complex because its easier than shooting something is just a little up!

You still have to look before crossing, but at leastmif he misses he can just reverse for another go, what we'll see is a more tactical use of roadkilling as an area denial asset, hes making a run for C SPLAT!!

Only way to refill ammo is at supply depots which need moving also 1 in each redline because with teams being bad we are ******

Also if i recieve like 30rounds for a railgun frankly i wont be happy if i have to resupply all the ******* time, TOG II tank held 144 rounds

If its not implemented right we ****** again

Tanks WILL have limited ammo, but each round will be packing a bugger punch. Meaning that if you manage your ammo and modules properly, you will be doing far BETTER than you are now, not worse as you seem to be trying to claim. You'll actually have to micro manage your vehicle much more carefully, but you'll be getting more out of it in the process, especially since your damage mods are getting a massive buff with the only hitch being you have to micro manage them since they become active modules. Tanks will actually be a much more involved class to spec into.

Or, to put it into forum speak: Join the club, every other class in the game has to deal with the same thing for over a year while you've had infinite ammo the entire time. And some have to deal with both ammo limitations AND overheat.

Tanks WILL have limited ammo, but each round will be packing a bugger punch. Meaning that if you manage your ammo and modules properly, you will be doing far BETTER than you are now, not worse as you seem to be trying to claim. You'll actually have to micro manage your vehicle much more carefully, but you'll be getting more out of it in the process, especially since your damage mods are getting a massive buff with the only hitch being you have to micro manage them since they become active modules. Tanks will actually be a much more involved class to spec into.

Or, to put it into forum speak: Join the club, every other class in the game has to deal with the same thing for over a year while you've had infinite ammo the entire time. And some have to deal with both ammo limitations AND overheat.

i just cant wait to see the first blueberry who thinks roadkilling is now extinct........and then skips merrily across open terrain on his way to an objective.......vrooom.......

the TOG II was also a land whale

So are the current tanks and with me taking off small turrets in 1.5 it means more space for ammo

I would love to have a TOG II in DUST

It could be a special amarr tank since its long and CCP could make it look like a ***** like they do with amarr EVE ships, give it gold camo and its done

There is no need to add finite ammo to tanks, if the same 80GJ blaster, rail, and missile installations have infinite ammo, then so should tanks. there was not ONE suggestion or complaint about ammo for tanks. whats interesting is back in chromosome me and my tanker buddies were joking around saying "hey how much would it suck if tanks had ammo!".
this change would be THEEE most unnecessary thing done to dust in its history. sure its great to throw around ideas, however, this should be just that, an idea, not a plan.
VET TANKERS AGREE?

simply yes

There is no need to add finite ammo to tanks, if the same 80GJ blaster, rail, and missile installations have infinite ammo, then so should tanks. there was not ONE suggestion or complaint about ammo for tanks. whats interesting is back in chromosome me and my tanker buddies were joking around saying "hey how much would it suck if tanks had ammo!".
this change would be THEEE most unnecessary thing done to dust in its history. sure its great to throw around ideas, however, this should be just that, an idea, not a plan.
VET TANKERS AGREE?

The ammo changes are being done around a whole verc redo so this thread is misinformed and pointless

There is no need to add finite ammo to tanks, if the same 80GJ blaster, rail, and missile installations have infinite ammo, then so should tanks. there was not ONE suggestion or complaint about ammo for tanks. whats interesting is back in chromosome me and my tanker buddies were joking around saying "hey how much would it suck if tanks had ammo!".
this change would be THEEE most unnecessary thing done to dust in its history. sure its great to throw around ideas, however, this should be just that, an idea, not a plan.
VET TANKERS AGREE?

The ammo changes are being done around a whole verc redo so this thread is misinformed and pointless

Since the finite ammo is only being changed for the turrets, not the main cannon (according to the wording of the post) i feel safe to assume they are paving the road for an actual tank crew to be rolling around.

I speculate they will add a nano hive that can refill turret ammo, or give logistics SOME way of refilling ammo. Perhaps even an LAV that can resupply ammo to come to the call of a tank hiding behind cover, for instance.

From the current notes on 1.5, seems you'll still be able to easily take off all turrets and redline snipe if you choose, but with more bravado. Hope they do something about that.

But yea, stronger turrets for people who actually want a team as they tank around the battlefield? + 1

Finite ammo to add to the possibility of more strategized teamwork play? +1

From the current point of view, 1.5 is looking like a great start to balancing vehicles. Lets hope it actually becomes thus.

Turrets will now have finite ammunition. Vehicle vs. vehicle combat generally boils down to two vehicles parked opposite one another firing until someone pops. This is not fun. Finite ammunition allows us to make turrets more powerful while preventing them from being a constant threat; spam a target and eventually you will run out of ammo.

misinformed and pointless? like the threads about everything else that we dont have yet? this is GD. we are discussing.
Hell, the discussing in this thread is a lot more constructive than most of the other threads ive been on tonight.

The main cannon is called a "large turret", and CCP has always made a distinction between large and small turrets in the past when talking about them separately. So you are incorrect in thinking that the main cannon will not be affected.



That second sentence describes 100% of all current tank combat and perhaps 2% of DS/LAV combat. This paragraph is blatantly directed towards tanks, so don't assume the large turrets are gonna still have infinite ammo.