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Pseudonym2
The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:27:00 -
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It's odd how so many responses say that this somehow levels the playing field between those who use controllers and those who use KB/M. I'm assuming most of these people have never picked used this method of input, so how is their opinion on the matter valid? I've watched many people who I know use controllers (because I've spoken to them online) regularly get more kills than me, and kill me outright much of the time. Where was my great advantage? I've posted some fairly impressive scores myself, but I don't hold a candle to most of these people. Now these same people are getting dropped in no time by people in NPC corps. And why, if I had this obscene advantage by using KB/M, was it not the standard amongst top ranked players? Most of them have spent literally hundreds of dollars on this game to try to stay on top, and yet they wouldn't make a one-time $15 purchase that would have given them this godly advantage?
Fact: you will not do as much damage without aim assist as with. No matter the weapon, no matter the range. Test it if you like. Hipfire at a stationary target, zoom in, it doesn't matter. You will not receive the volume of hit markers or headshots that you receive with aim assist. I'm sure people are once again going to ask me to provide some sort of proof. Realistically, it's right in your hands. Leave aim assist on and don't mess with the controls too much, and see how you do as far as accuracy, turn it off and take all the time you like to line up the exact same shot, then tell me I'm wrong .
Giving a little assistance to newbies and casual players is one thing. Making it so that they have the capacity to kill faster than someone using skill? That's going a bit far. No one, no matter what their manner of control, could ever consistently kill this fast. |
Burntface man112
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:56:00 -
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I guarantee it if the aim assist gets removed the player base with plummet so hard because of all the other console shooter out there that use it instead for more comfortable levels of control. What is the killer for most F2P games, it is lack of support from the player base. I Guarantee it that most players will leave and would i if aim assist was removed because so many other better shooter are coming real soon which understand the importance of this. All of you who defend aim assist remove will be the one responsible not for only diminishing the player base but killing DUST 514. That there is a promise, I guarantee it Dust will not survive without aim assist because if you don't believe me check the status of player count after aim assist was removed... Player count drop so hard it was no longer salvageable..
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
starting at 6-1-13 the player count dropped drastically due to lack of content in clunky gameplay. Every Critic out there has hurt Dusts name because they say the games trash for the same reasons. Here are real Facts, Dust will die without comfortable shooting because thats what most shooters out there focus on most, making the shooting feel very good. |
Burntface man112
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:58:00 -
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Pseudonym2 wrote:It's odd how so many responses say that this somehow levels the playing field between those who use controllers and those who use KB/M. I'm assuming most of these people have never picked used this method of input, so how is their opinion on the matter valid? I've watched many people who I know use controllers (because I've spoken to them online) regularly get more kills than me, and kill me outright much of the time. Where was my great advantage? I've posted some fairly impressive scores myself, but I don't hold a candle to most of these people. Now these same people are getting dropped in no time by people in NPC corps. And why, if I had this obscene advantage by using KB/M, was it not the standard amongst top ranked players? Most of them have spent literally hundreds of dollars on this game to try to stay on top, and yet they wouldn't make a one-time $15 purchase that would have given them this godly advantage?
Fact: you will not do as much damage without aim assist as with. No matter the weapon, no matter the range. Test it if you like. Hipfire at a stationary target, zoom in, it doesn't matter. You will not receive the volume of hit markers or headshots that you receive with aim assist. I'm sure people are once again going to ask me to provide some sort of proof. Realistically, it's right in your hands. Leave aim assist on and don't mess with the controls too much, and see how you do as far as accuracy, turn it off and take all the time you like to line up the exact same shot, then tell me I'm wrong .
Giving a little assistance to newbies and casual players is one thing. Making it so that they have the capacity to kill faster than someone using skill? That's going a bit far. No one, no matter what their manner of control, could ever consistently kill this fast. First off KBM is always been known to have massive advantage over Control. Don't believe me check it out on google you will see the research there. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
490
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:59:00 -
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no to aim assist. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
490
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:02:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:meri jin wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Lurch, are you defending me? I thought you didnt like me No one likes Lurchasaurus, this way he tries to make friends. ? Lurchasaurus you should look at page two. You said something like my friends sucks, without even knowing them. This drags me to the conclusion that you are out of arguments and rather troll and insult people? Do you even have a feeling for the world outside your screen? A bigger understanding of the gaming marked could help you realize that CCP didnGÇÖt make Dust to YOUR personal game. This is a product to earn money and not your seal of approve. Dear CCP, The most time Dust donGÇÖt even have more than 3000 people playing. There are people out there with only little time. They canGÇÖt play several games at once or the same game for an excessive amount. This people are happy if they can cut two hours of free time and enjoy some gaming. There are the people who have more time; I like to call them the GÇ£casualgamersGÇ¥, ever heard of them? Yes you have. These are the people which you needs the most because this people are the big numbers who can carry more money in to the company. Aim assist is one tool to make the game accessible for everybody (PVE could be another) and as the aim assist is now it still leaves room for your personal and individual improvement. I keep reading here that all you need to do is hold your gun in one direction and keep shooting. That is definitely not the case, you still have to aim and follow your target. Aim assist helps you following. IGÇÖm using ARs and I havenGÇÖt experienced this magical magnetism or aimboting. The personal room of improvement is as always in a FPS is the GÇ£aim and headshotGÇ¥, it is not the following, itGÇÖs aiming and having the gun at the exact point without dragging it around. (This point should be the head.) Again, I havenGÇÖt seen any automated headshots while using aim assist. I hope CCP keep the aim assist as it is, the game is hardcore enough. What we need are numbers in this game, more people p(l)aying it. I understand that it is a narrow path between an ambitious game and CoD but CCP still needs to concede something for the broader audience.
Just have some baby pool area where noobs can play with AA on. Make it an option to use. This way you'll have your casuals, CCP. And you are not scaring off the core of your community who I believe does way more to keep your cash flow than that 'casual' who jumps from one game to the next and never spends enough time on Dust to even conceive spending money in it. |
Moorian Flav
Ectype Inc.
49
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:03:00 -
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Aim assist was made so DS3 players could compete with KB/M players as KB/M has greater speed and precision than DS3. You can tell who are KB/M players as they want Aim Assist removed while the DS3 players want Aim Assist to stay.
My true opinion: DUST is a console game. All other console games gave up on KB/M support and DUST should as well as DUST is a console game. Once KB/M support is gone, I'd have no problem with Aim Assist also being removed. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
490
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:06:00 -
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Burntface man112 wrote:I guarantee it if the aim assist gets removed the player base with plummet so hard because of all the other console shooter out there that use it instead for more comfortable levels of control. What is the killer for most F2P games, it is lack of support from the player base. I Guarantee it that most players will leave and would i if aim assist was removed because so many other better shooter are coming real soon which understand the importance of this. All of you who defend aim assist remove will be the one responsible not for only diminishing the player base but killing DUST 514. That there is a promise, I guarantee it Dust will not survive without aim assist because if you don't believe me check the status of player count after aim assist was removed... Player count drop so hard it was no longer salvageable.. http://eve-offline.net/?server=duststarting at 6-1-13 the player count dropped drastically due to lack of content in clunky gameplay. Every Critic out there has hurt Dusts name because they say the games trash for the same reasons. Here are real Facts, Dust will die without comfortable shooting because thats what most shooters out there focus on most, making the shooting feel very good.
I guarantee that Dust will not survive with AA on. Ppl who play are those who are disgusted by COD. Not the 12 year olds who are just killing time while their mom has grounded them and took her credit card away- at least before Christmas when she is gonna buy them another Black Ops. |
Yackoff Smirnoff
GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA
22
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:12:00 -
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the only reason i left farmville to play dust was because they announced that there was aim assist. do you really want to chase off a potential demographically challenged target audience member such as myself that seeks a crutch in the world of FPS gaming?
TLDR with aim assist on i just wanna be loved is that so wrong? |
Boxoffire
Ninth Legion Freelance Top Men.
129
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:34:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:remove all forms of aim assist, aim assist and aimbots are what turned FPSs into laughing stalks in esports and why they dont allow scrubby console games to play in the big boy leagues. Which is why CoD is one of the biggest esports FPS game and CS was removed from MLG. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
286
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:04:00 -
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Im really getting tired of this, mostly because there is NO argument to be made here. Its a CONSOLE shooter so theres going to be aim assist. Dont like it? Go play a pc shooter, we dont want you whiners here.. |
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