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Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:54:00 -
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Is it possible that you played this game without any aim assist for so long that you are used to zero aim assist, so that you just "feel" like aim assist is too strong (because you're not used to it)?
And to people saying there shouldn't be aim assist at all, in every single FPS/TPS there IS aim assist.
I asked a couple friends from BF3 and Uncharted 3 (got many friends there because I loved these 2 games) to try DUST today with the current Aim Assist and they found it ok. One of them actually liked the overall game and maybe he's gonna play it some more. Another one was upset because of the extremely long matchmaking times (lol), but I explained this is an issue. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
159
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:59:00 -
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+ 1, we need all the new players we can get, even if aim assist feels good for them and not for vets. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
3361
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:00:00 -
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There's sense in that post op, but I have to say that the amount of times I'm getting headshotted is just too high. The accuracy of the berries had increased hugely, IMO it needs to be dialed back a tad. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
507
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:01:00 -
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Working as intended.
Game strafing speeds are too high. It's the least us DS3 players should have.
-XOXO |
Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
113
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:04:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:+ 1, we need all the new players we can get, even if aim assist feels good for them and not for vets.
Why? Just because your used to being that way? That is a terrible reason for something to not change.
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CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
269
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:07:00 -
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i think the proto bears r just sad that the newer players no longer have to spray and pray with the new aim assist.. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
82
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:08:00 -
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Nothing wrong with aim assist, however what are views on the ar now?? I only had one match and it was a pubstomp so havent had an opportunity to assess for my self?? |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1461
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:31:00 -
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+1 for a decent thread. Small changes need to happen, but slight adjustments is all it would take. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
285
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:49:00 -
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CCP doesn't understand the concept of small staggered adjustments. They would use a twenty pound sledge for a thumb tac. |
Shane Darko
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
80
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:51:00 -
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..Wish I knew how it felt. :(
*plasma cannon user* |
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Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
421
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:52:00 -
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Ignoble Son wrote:CCP doesn't understand to concept of small staggered adjustments. They would use a twenty pound sledge for a thumb tac.
I agree. Aim assist should provide a reduced input when aiming near a target and maybe slight magnetism. It's completely ruined the FPS aspect because it's a "pick your target and hold trigger" type of aiming. The magnetism is way too strong, especially in CQC and short range encounters... |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
459
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:55:00 -
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i like how like made the PR's projectiles have magnets on the ends, then ****** up the shotties even more -_- |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
140
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:07:00 -
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The aim assist change really isnt that noticeable for mewhen im shooting but im noticing people are droping me MUCH quicker than before |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1354
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:08:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:+ 1, we need all the new players we can get, even if aim assist feels good for them and not for vets.
Can't vets just turn it off? |
Absolute Idiom II
No Free Pass
607
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:12:00 -
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What is the point in having high EHP in Dust (as compared to CoD or BF3) when applied dps is much higher because the aim assists are so sticky completely that it negates the need for consistent accurate aim/skill |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
30
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:21:00 -
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Aim assist is for those who suck, and negates the skill of those who don't, this aa is to much because it reduces skill and put more emphasis on first shot and feels more arcade like, I mean forget turning ona flanker and managing to use skill like strafeing to get out of a death or if your a scout now forget about it...... Hardcore aim assist another great thing brought to us by the eve nerd pilots that have no business in fps, get them off the cpm now? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
88
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:26:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aim assist is for those who suck, and negates the skill of those who don't, this aa is to much because it reduces skill and put more emphasis on first shot and feels more arcade like, I mean forget turning ona flanker and managing to use skill like strafeing to get out of a death or if your a scout now forget about it...... Hardcore aim assist another great thing brought to us by the eve nerd pilots that have no business in fps, get them off the cpm now?
It would appear peoples experience with aim assist differ some say aim bot some say barely noticeable, give it a chance only 4 weeks till 1.5 |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
30
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:33:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aim assist is for those who suck, and negates the skill of those who don't, this aa is to much because it reduces skill and put more emphasis on first shot and feels more arcade like, I mean forget turning ona flanker and managing to use skill like strafeing to get out of a death or if your a scout now forget about it...... Hardcore aim assist another great thing brought to us by the eve nerd pilots that have no business in fps, get them off the cpm now? It would appear peoples experience with aim assist differ some say aim bot some say barely noticeable, give it a chance only 4 weeks till 1.5
I'm not saying its to much for me, people who don't notice it like my self are people who have never needed it, so yes we don't notice to much, we already had the sight in the right spot when we ads, but for people who have been sucking suddenly they are laying down protos?????? That might be to much. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
117
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:37:00 -
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Pandora Mars wrote:Is it possible that you played this game without any aim assist for so long that you are used to zero aim assist, so that you just "feel" like aim assist is too strong (because you're not used to it)?
And to people saying there shouldn't be aim assist at all, in every single FPS/TPS there IS aim assist.
I asked a couple friends from BF3 and Uncharted 3 (got many friends there because I loved these 2 games) to try DUST today with the current Aim Assist and they found it ok. One of them actually liked the overall game and maybe he's gonna play it some more. Another one was upset because of the extremely long matchmaking times (lol), but I explained this is an issue.
Aim assist is only in console games, any competitive games and tourney games do not have it. Its for scrubs who need help and shouldnt be in a game like dust |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX.
Top Men.
202
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:37:00 -
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Mwahahahah now no one can say we snipers require no skill. since our wepons don't have aim assist! Mommy dosen't have help us(snipers) pee. Mwahahahah
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da GAND
High-Damage
239
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:42:00 -
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Right so now we are nearly on the same level with those that got no gun game when it comes to aiming |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:52:00 -
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Aim assist doesn't just help those that aren't as quick with pinpoint aiming. It helps everyone kill more efficiently. I don't see a problem in that since everyone benefits. It helps lesser accurate players become more competitive. More competition for the accurate players means they may die more. As others have condescendingly told to players they didn't agree with, "learn to adapt".
In theory, this could actually reduce pub stomping but it's too soon to tell. It sounds like the aim assist fix may have been a good thing. |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
280
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:53:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Pandora Mars wrote:Is it possible that you played this game without any aim assist for so long that you are used to zero aim assist, so that you just "feel" like aim assist is too strong (because you're not used to it)?
And to people saying there shouldn't be aim assist at all, in every single FPS/TPS there IS aim assist.
I asked a couple friends from BF3 and Uncharted 3 (got many friends there because I loved these 2 games) to try DUST today with the current Aim Assist and they found it ok. One of them actually liked the overall game and maybe he's gonna play it some more. Another one was upset because of the extremely long matchmaking times (lol), but I explained this is an issue. Aim assist is only in console games, any competitive games and tourney games do not have it. Its for scrubs who need help and shouldnt be in a game like dust
DUST is a console game.
So we console gamers shouldn't be playing a console game?
If you think true gamers play only PC games, maybe you should not be playing DUST, I don't know.
There are competitive tournaments for console games and there is aim assist there. I played and won Uncharted 3 competitive tournaments. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1404
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:53:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:Aim assist doesn't just help those that aren't as quick with pinpoint aiming. It helps everyone kill more efficiently. I don't see a problem in that since everyone benefits. It helps lesser accurate players become more competitive. More competition for the accurate players means they may die more. As others have condescendingly told to players they didn't agree with, "learn to adapt".
In theory, this could actually reduce pub stomping but it's too soon to tell. It sounds like the aim assist fix may have been a good thing.
simply false. good players are actually hindered by aim assist, and any competitive player worth their salt in this game has it off.
it would be different if we ever had a functioning, proper aim assist, but it is one of the things they have never been able to nail down |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3932
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:54:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QI4wmuzjmU |
da GAND
High-Damage
239
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:54:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:Aim assist doesn't just help those that aren't as quick with pinpoint aiming. It helps everyone kill more efficiently. I don't see a problem in that since everyone benefits. It helps lesser accurate players become more competitive. More competition for the accurate players means they may die more. As others have condescendingly told to players they didn't agree with, "learn to adapt".
In theory, this could actually reduce pub stomping but it's too soon to tell. It sounds like the aim assist fix may have been a good thing.
Right cuz auto aim is helping stop pub stomping when we get 10 v 6 or 16 vs 5 battles |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
951
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:55:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Pandora Mars wrote:Is it possible that you played this game without any aim assist for so long that you are used to zero aim assist, so that you just "feel" like aim assist is too strong (because you're not used to it)?
And to people saying there shouldn't be aim assist at all, in every single FPS/TPS there IS aim assist.
I asked a couple friends from BF3 and Uncharted 3 (got many friends there because I loved these 2 games) to try DUST today with the current Aim Assist and they found it ok. One of them actually liked the overall game and maybe he's gonna play it some more. Another one was upset because of the extremely long matchmaking times (lol), but I explained this is an issue. Aim assist is only in console games, any competitive games and tourney games do not have it. Its for scrubs who need help and shouldn't be in a game like dust
First in a "game like dust" your making it sound like it actually is better than any FPS game. Lost planet 3 is better than dust.
Second as someone who never had problems aiming, I don't really feel it, this game had issues with aiming a mile long. No it's wasn't cause we were ALL SO GOOD. We couldn't lick the boot straps off of the boots off the GODS of FPS. And many would tell you that aiming was off.
And last is PLAYER RETENTION. All fps is fun for a reason. and many have aim assists for a reason. But if I have to spell out why this game needs to start showing some traits that most fps shares it, all that will be left is just nerds who think they are great in fps.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
622
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:56:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aim assist is for those who suck, and negates the skill of those who don't, this aa is to much because it reduces skill and put more emphasis on first shot and feels more arcade like, I mean forget turning ona flanker and managing to use skill like strafeing to get out of a death or if your a scout now forget about it...... Hardcore aim assist another great thing brought to us by the eve nerd pilots that have no business in fps, get them off the cpm now?
Use cover. It's there for a reason. I know I know, you've been completely ignoring the cover this whole time and dashing straight into the enemy's face. With aim assist here, you actually have to think a little bit when you consider that almost 100% of the enemies DPS will hit you if you run out in the open. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
30
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:58:00 -
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Yes, maybe that was ccps intent to stop protos in pubs but I don't like it. If it makes things so even what's the point in having to pay for proto guns that have 5 percent damage diffrence between them when a left flanker hits you with a militia ar all up side your head on everyshot bc of aa and your done. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
30
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:04:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Aim assist is for those who suck, and negates the skill of those who don't, this aa is to much because it reduces skill and put more emphasis on first shot and feels more arcade like, I mean forget turning ona flanker and managing to use skill like strafeing to get out of a death or if your a scout now forget about it...... Hardcore aim assist another great thing brought to us by the eve nerd pilots that have no business in fps, get them off the cpm now? Use cover. It's there for a reason. I know I know, you've been completely ignoring the cover this whole time and dashing straight into the enemy's face. With aim assist here, you actually have to think a little bit when you consider that almost 100% of the enemies DPS will hit you if you run out in the open.
Yes use cover so that your head sticking out is all they hit, let me know how that goes, even using cover is made less useful not more by aa, and there are many situations outside of hiding behind something where the aa is to much. |
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