CCP, this is probably the last nail in the coffin for me as a dropship pilot, and I'm here to let you know why. In my first match that i had to wait over 8 minutes for (the estimated wait time was 1:20) the match i got into was Ashland domination, as it appears that many others are being shuffled into that match. Except when I finally got into the match, there were only 4 people on each side, for the entire game, and one was a forge-gunner.

He had a militia forge which originally does absolutely nothing to my proto ADS with 4,062 shields, except this time, with each shot he took out 2,000 shield instantly. That's right, even a militia forge gun can now 3-shot a proto ADS with 4 ward shield extenders. You have royally ****** up with this update CCP, the wait time will deter any potential new members you could get, along with the fact that there are only very few people in each match, and it's not because people aren't online either, there are many people on. Good luck surviving the massive wipe that will be known as the Dust Ice-age.

Dude you must have been on soon, a lot of people are still downloading so give that time. It will be a day or two before the numbers go back to normal.

To be honest a militia forge gun with just a damage mod or two would probably 3 shot your dropship. Now with the aiming fix he is more likely to get the shots on target.

Its unlikely but he could have had forge proficiency level up for increased damage too.

Its always been that way with a dropship lol sorry about the camera angles.

CCP, this is probably the last nail in the coffin for me as a dropship pilot, and I'm here to let you know why. In my first match that i had to wait over 8 minutes for (the estimated wait time was 1:20) the match i got into was Ashland domination, as it appears that many others are being shuffled into that match. Except when I finally got into the match, there were only 4 people on each side, for the entire game, and one was a forge-gunner.

He had a militia forge which originally does absolutely nothing to my proto ADS with 4,062 shields, except this time, with each shot he took out 2,000 shield instantly. That's right, even a militia forge gun can now 3-shot a proto ADS with 4 ward shield extenders. Not only that, but in your view of "fixing a camera", that means that all you do is re-position the source point to the front of the dropship so we can sort of look downwards but still not really, and the camera swings violently when you try to aim at things. And with this camera now in the front, if you try to look at your back, the entire camera is taken up by the back of the dropship and you can't see anything.

I can't even see my entire dropship at all in 3rd person anymore. You have royally ****** up with this update CCP, the wait time will deter any potential new members you could get, along with the fact that there are only very few people in each match, and it's not because people aren't online either, there are many people on. Good luck surviving the massive wipe that will be known as the Dust Ice-age.

are you 100% positive is was only one forge...if it was two team firing you in unison i can see that......or he could have been using that cheat people are so fond of now on his rounds..i doubt ccp would knowingly do something that stupid i mean really they havnt quiet convinced me they are that thick skulled this past year or 2

How do you know he was MLT? I ran the math - even with 2 10% damage mods, and 12% proficiency (very unlikely), his max damage output is roundabout 1650 per shot. That's before your 10% damage reduction from FG vs Shields. That would drop the damage to around 1500. If you have passive modifiers, it would go down even further.

More than likely? You were being hit by something more powerful than an MLT FG.

Furthermore, count your blessings. If it was me, i'd be hitting you with about 3.5k or more. You got off light.

If he has proficiency up to 5 and was wearing the 'Neo' Heavy ak.0 with 3 complex damage mods he could do ~2106 damage per shot; or if it was just a suit with 2 high slots then it would be ~2004 damage per shot.

How do you know he was MLT? I ran the math - even with 2 10% damage mods, and 12% proficiency (very unlikely), his max damage output is roundabout 1650 per shot. That's before your 10% damage reduction from FG vs Shields. That would drop the damage to around 1500. If you have passive modifiers, it would go down even further.

More than likely? You were being hit by something more powerful than an MLT FG.

Furthermore, count your blessings. If it was me, i'd be hitting you with about 3.5k or more. You got off light.

I wonder if dropships have a weakspot now maybe?

Not only that, but in your view of "fixing a camera", that means that all you do is re-position the source point to the front of the dropship so we can sort of look downwards but still not really, and the camera swings violently when you try to aim at things. And with this camera now in the front, if you try to look at your back, the entire camera is taken up by the back of the dropship and you can't see anything.

CCP, this is probably the last nail in the coffin for me as a dropship pilot, and I'm here to let you know why. In my first match that i had to wait over 8 minutes for (the estimated wait time was 1:20) the match i got into was Ashland domination, as it appears that many others are being shuffled into that match. Except when I finally got into the match, there were only 4 people on each side, for the entire game, and one was a forge-gunner.

He had a militia forge which originally does absolutely nothing to my proto ADS with 4,062 shields, except this time, with each shot he took out 2,000 shield instantly. That's right, even a militia forge gun can now 3-shot a proto ADS with 4 ward shield extenders. Not only that, but in your view of "fixing a camera", that means that all you do is re-position the source point to the front of the dropship so we can sort of look downwards but still not really, and the camera swings violently when you try to aim at things. And with this camera now in the front, if you try to look at your back, the entire camera is taken up by the back of the dropship and you can't see anything. With this new camera, it makes shooting ground units around 100x more difficult in an Assault Dropship. It used to be fairly easy and you could lead targets, etc, but now this new camera jerks your riticule when you try to aim ahead, causing the turret aim to go in an un-wanted direction, almost like how side-gunners get affected by looking down.

I can't even see my entire dropship at all in 3rd person anymore. You have royally ****** up with this update CCP, the wait time will deter any potential new members you could get, along with the fact that there are only very few people in each match, and it's not because people aren't online either, there are many people on. Good luck surviving the massive wipe that will be known as the Dust Ice-age.

It sounds like you were hit with more than just an MLT FG.

Okay how many times am i going to have to say this? There were 4 enemies on the other team, and only one had a forge gun. You can do the math all you want on your old statistics of what FG's used to do to shields but I'm pretty much positive they made shields have less resistance to forge guns. And I don't even care how much you would do with your advanced or proto FG, because dropships are underpowered as it is and trying to act like you're a pro at taking down dropships is stupid because a 4 year old can take them down now.

My god you people are pathetic!

If he has proficiency up to 5 and was wearing the 'Neo' Heavy ak.0 with 3 complex damage mods he could do ~1954.32 damage per shot; or if it was just a suit with 2 high slots then it would be ~1860.48 damage per shot.

Edit: math was off. Numbers should be correct now.

I hate I'm going to have to get into an argument from someone in my own Alliance.

First, In order to get the damage numbers you're claiming, CCP would have had to massively stealth buff the Forge Gun. The damage numbers you indicated are simply not possible with an MLT FG Variant. CCP would have had to buff the damage output by hundreds in order to reach that.

Second, how hard it is to hit a dropship is entirely dependent on the one piloting it. If you're hovering around like a derp expecting not to get shot, then you have another thing coming. I suggest watching either this video or this one if you cannot grasp the concept of flying defensively.

If you got shot down in a well-equiped dropship(which it sounds like you have), by an MLT forge gun, then you were not flying it properly. And if that's the case, we really should be mocking you, not sitting here trying to have a rational discussion.

actually FG have 10% bonus against shields


as far as I remember correctly, the back thruster is the weakspot.