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Some games no AV aims at my dropship. Obviously those are great. Then someone pulls a militia forge+swarm and I'm locked out of the map forever on penalty of death

Agreed, IX. This is the first time I've seen armor on this scale in an ambush pub match (hence the note taking).
I thought it apt to document the observation, in light of recent lobbying by tankers for "no more proto AV".

Not to say tankers' concerns are without merit. I understand that these guys aren't operating at a profit.
If CCP is working on better tanks for 1.5, I hope they keep these sorts of scenarios in mind.
The last thing this game needs is another LLAV-like oversight.

- Shotty

Also, aside from Barbosa, I have never seen those guys before, so they are either Ambush scrubs, in which case they don't matter, or non tankers who just got lucky that the other team sucked.

Keep what in mind?

That one team spammed tnaks and the other didn't run away, drop uplinks and swarm them senseless? Let's all give a round of applause for people being retar.ded.

if the enemy team were to call in ten tanks on me, my best retort would be to retreat to the edge of the map, load up a missile Gunloggi with 8k shields and proceed to give at least two of my squadies Charbdii so they could rep me then **** every single tank on the field.

Yeah, I'm only a half decent player, but if an enemy team called in 7 tanks most of them would die or be recalled.

More tanks, more Forging... They'd call me Geordi La Forge..

Or Forge Lucas.

Or Curious Forge.

Keep what in mind?

Forge, forge, forge of the jungle watch out for that LLAV

Victory! We only lost 10 clones! Tanks are so guud!
Sep 01 2013, 01:30 (EVE) - Ambush OMS - Bridge Map

Tank #1 - Isarc Grewem (9/0)
Tank #2 - Barbosa07z (9/0)
Tank #3 - ShadowOfWar88 (9/0)
Tank #4 - Diablo-Gun-Pro (4/0)
Tank #5 - Reve Zephos (8/1)
*Tank #6 - HC RSOL (7/1)
Tank #7 - Klit Licker (2/0)

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Yes, these seven brave tankers were rolling about on the field, all at the same time.
If a limiter was supposed to kick in, it didn't.
Yes, the enemy hurriedly switched to their swarms (as you can see, "we" lost two tanks).

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This is why you can't have nice things.

- Shotty GoBang

* Counted 7 tanks on the field shortly following initial spawn. Immediately grabbed a pen and paper. I'm not 100% certain that this guy was one of the seven tankers, as one tank was blown up before I could get to everyone.

It's a shame you need 7 tanks to survive

Also, aside from Barbosa, I have never seen those guys before, so they are either Ambush scrubs, in which case they don't matter, or non tankers who just got lucky that the other team sucked.

It's too bad you wouldn't be able to figure out how to destroy one.

That if tanks are buffed by unreasonable degree -- and presently viable counters are stripped of efficacy or altogether removed -- that the pursuant spam of unchecked super tanks would be ... suboptimal. Not to mention, it'd render smart tankers like you indistinguishable from the myriad other "scrubs" as you call them.

I'm not saying that the above scenario shouldn't have happened ... only pointing out that it did happen.
I'm not claiming that there was no counter; you have offered two.

I am pointing out that the masses flock to any perceived advantage, and proceed to spam the heck out of it. A likely detriment to our true tankers, who are denied nice things like super tanks and the requested removal of Proto AV.

- Shotty

This, as usual, because as usual, literally the only complaining about tanks/tankers I see in particular relates to ambush. It really is a sad thing CCP continues to listen to you guys.

You were never very good AG.

That if tanks are buffed by unreasonable degree -- and presently viable counters are stripped of efficacy or altogether removed -- the pursuant spam of unchecked super tanks would be ... suboptimal. Not to mention, it'd render smart tankers like you indistinguishable from the myriad other "scrubs" as you call them.

I'm not saying that the above scenario shouldn't have happened ... only pointing out that it did happen.
I'm not claiming that there was no counter; you have offered two.

I am pointing out that the masses flock to any perceived advantage, and proceed to spam the heck out of it. A likely detriment to our true tankers, who are denied nice things like super tanks and the requested removal of Proto AV.

- Shotty

Agreed that if scrubs think tanking is an i-win button it becomes a problem.
I like it that tanking is difficult, it makes it that much more rewarding when i put a good match together.

Would be awesome if AV had a damage multiplier added to it for each additional tank that was on the field.

First tank - 100% (normal)
Second tank - 150%
Third tank - 200%
Fourth tank - 250%
Fifth tank - 300%

So forth and so on. Which would be a great way to keep tanks from being spammed as an easy iwin button (especially in ambush). One tank should be the limit in ambush (zero would be the ultimate, but that will never happen). And in skirmish, perhaps one tank for every two objectives would be balanced.

LOL Call of Duty is that way ------------>

Would be awesome if AV had a damage multiplier added to it for each additional tank that was on the field.

First tank - 100% (normal)
Second tank - 150%
Third tank - 200%
Fourth tank - 250%
Fifth tank - 300%

So forth and so on. Which would be a great way to keep tanks from being spammed as an easy iwin button (especially in ambush). One tank should be the limit in ambush (zero would be the ultimate, but that will never happen). And in skirmish, perhaps one tank for every two objectives would be balanced.

Victory! We only lost 10 clones! Tanks are so guud!
Sep 01 2013, 01:30 (EVE) - Ambush OMS - Bridge Map

Tank #1 - Isarc Grewem (9/0)
Tank #2 - Barbosa07z (9/0)
Tank #3 - ShadowOfWar88 (9/0)
Tank #4 - Diablo-Gun-Pro (4/0)
Tank #5 - Reve Zephos (8/1)
*Tank #6 - HC RSOL (7/1)
Tank #7 - Klit Licker (2/0)

---

Yes, these seven brave tankers were rolling about on the field, all at the same time.
If a limiter was supposed to kick in, it didn't.
Yes, the enemy hurriedly switched to their swarms (as you can see, "we" lost two tanks).

---

This is why you can't have nice things.

- Shotty GoBang

* Counted 7 tanks on the field shortly following initial spawn. Immediately grabbed a pen and paper. I'm not 100% certain that this guy was one of 'em, as one tank was blown up before I could get to everyone.

You wouldn't know balance if you had to cross a tightrope to save your life.

Neither would you. You'd call a tank in and cry when it didn't work.

LOL keep using your crutch launcher.

LOL Call of Duty is that way ------------>

Yeah, I'm only a half decent player, but if an enemy team called in 7 tanks most of them would die or be recalled.

More tanks, more Forging... They'd call me Geordi La Forge..

Or Forge Lucas.

Or Curious Forge.

I prefer a forge. I hear that's horrendously overpowered too, though.
Clearly the best solution is nerfing AV so that it shoots peas instead, and tanks should instantly kill all infantry on the map.

Keep what in mind?

That one team spammed tnaks and the other didn't run away, drop uplinks and swarm them senseless? Let's all give a round of applause for people being retar.ded.

if the enemy team were to call in ten tanks on me, my best retort would be to retreat to the edge of the map, load up a missile Gunloggi with 8k shields and proceed to give at least two of my squadies Charbdii so they could rep me then **** every single tank on the field.

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Some games no AV aims at my dropship. Obviously those are great. Then someone pulls a militia forge+swarm and I'm locked out of the map forever on penalty of death

Then why do I see games where infantry go like 76-0 (clones left at the end) without tanks...?

[Two squads of six] Tryhards that need PRO suits and officer weapons to beat down guys with 3000 WP.

Lol if you guys are complaining about this you should have seen Closed BetaGǪ

I seem to recall me popping you like a dirty scrub in PC more than once. While you were pretty much hiding in your redline.

If I can fist you with my rail tank while you have FG's up top, then you need to think about what calling me no good says about you.

Unless you have some balls, in which case step up and take the 100 million ISK challenge and we will see what you are all about.

I have video bud. But keep revising history.