Holy crap, this actually seems to make a bit of sense!

I figured this was going to be a whiny child screeching "Delete the MD!" Cause they seem unable to understand that you are supposed to out range it to kill it.

Edit- But, I find you numbers a bit overkill, these would make Breach weapons OP. I'll respond in a bit, when I have something more suitable to replieing in a quote.

Why would it make any sense that an assault rifle with a lower rate of fire has more kick?

Breach AR Damage - 70.1 HP
Breach AR RoF - 450
High Kick for Breach AR
Breach SMG RoF - 882.8
Breach SMG clip size - 62
Slightly Higher Kick for Breach SMG

You've got my attention with these numbers. I like them.
I do have a question about the Breach AR, are you talking about a basic Breach AR doing 70 damage?

Also think forge bonus to shields and swarm bonus to armor should be generously be reduced.

This first one is a must have: Let's say I'm using the DS3, "Press X to move over Object/Railing" (I know you want this to show up in a patch). Heavies only have that option while not wielding a Heavy weapon (switch to sidearm). The time it takes for a person to move over the object/railing is dependent on the Dropsuit's speed.

How to Balance all FPS games.

Only way o do it: Make everything OP as f*ck. Take the skill factor completely out of it.

Sorry, its the only way.

Please don't.

Just... no.

When I'm shooting an enemy while I'm near a railing, and there's a reason for me to want to jump, I DON'T WANT A CONTEXTUAL ACTION OVERRIDING MY JUMP.

This should be a dynamic action when you jump at a railing that's low enough in a non-Heavy suit, or in a Heavy suit with a non-Heavy weapon equipped. It should NOT be something that interferes with player control.

UE3 (the engine DUST is built on) was also use to create the dynamic vaulting and sliding animations shown off in Mirror's Edge and a similar dynamic system in Brink, in which you could continue firing (with reduced accuracy) during acrobatic moves like this. Brink also had a size-based movement system with small, medium and large body types, each having its own movement profile, much like DUST. A similar, but less in-depth, system would be great here.

I'm pretty sure you would need to be looking directly at the object/railing and moving towards it to do the contextual action...

I remember I used to play a game (forgot the name) but it only had 1 weapon. That weapon was a accurate, high damage rifle that could kill in 1 - 3 shots. The only reason it wasn't OP was because EVERYONE had it. A few months after the game was released the creator added in 2 more weapons. Then all hell broke loose and the game kept getting weapons nerfed and buffed and no one was happy. In the world of FPS nothing is ever balanced, ever...

y would a low rate of fire breach ar have high recoil? LOL

hives will forever resupply grenades

Hi OP,

Thank you for the well-written post. I have two weaponry-related questions for you , if I may:

1) How would you respond to claims of AR "every-role" superiority evidenced by Duvolle proliferation in PC?
2) What changes, if any, would you propose to bring balance to CQC?

Best Regards,
Shotty GoBang

Hi OP,

Thank you for the well-written post. I have two weaponry-related questions for you , if I may:

1) How would you respond to claims of AR "every-role" superiority evidenced by Duvolle proliferation in PC?
2) What changes, if any, would you propose to bring balance to CQC?

Best Regards,
Shotty GoBang

Most use it because of the high range, high damage, good accuracy, and the presence of officer ARs. The AR was supposedly a hybrid weapon of short range compared laser weaponry but what we have now is the opposite. Here's the dev blog with the weapon descriptions for reference, AR and scrambler rifles should get their range values swapped.

Gotcha. I think. To clarify ...

CCP's Intent:
The AR should be highly effective at short range and progressively less effective at medium and long range.

CCP's Execution:
The AR is highly effective at every range.

Your Intent:
The AR should be highly effective at long range.

My Question:
Should the AR also be highly effective at short range?

If not, what changes would you propose to make the AR less effective at close/medium range?
If so, would we not have more of the same? A continuation of AR being highly effective at every range?

ok so lets say we do this.

Everything is in 100% balance.

Then you release 3 more heavy suits, 2 more tanks, 2 more LAVs, 2 more scouts, 4 pilot suits, that's 3 more tech 2 heavies...

Now the balance you thought was great no longer works. Because the game was missing basic content.

On top of those suits having weapon bonuses there is also the caldari AR, and the minmatar AR coming out at some point. *we saw the caldari one is done art wise* And other new weapons.

How to Balance all FPS games.

Only way o do it: Make everything OP as f*ck. Take the skill factor completely out of it.

Sorry, its the only way.

Why?

No context makes the numbers pulled out ur ass meaningless.

1.4 Aim-Assist ... does this change anything proposed by OP?

No

Wow. What's the title and purpose of this thread again? Here's an on-topic idea and free bump:

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HMGs, Nova Knives, SMGs, Shotguns ...
These weapons win in close range. Yes, they can even beat Duvolle ARs.

Laser Rifles, Tac ARs, Sniper Rifles ...
These weapons win at long range. Yes, they can even beat Duvolle ARs.

Assault Rifles and Unscoped Variants ...
These weapons win in medium range. No longer the best at every range.

Aim-Assist:
Remove it. The "Shooter" in FPS is suggestive benefit which scales with gun-game.

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Not trolling here. General Discussion implies dialogue.
Reduce the above points to rubbish! With maths and logic. Or not.

- Shotty GoBang

Wow. What's the title and purpose of this thread again? Here's an on-topic idea and free bump:

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HMGs, Nova Knives, SMGs, Shotguns ...
These weapons win in close range. Yes, they can even beat Duvolle ARs.

Laser Rifles, Tac ARs, Sniper Rifles ...
These weapons win at long range. Yes, they can even beat Duvolle ARs.

Assault Rifles and Unscoped Variants ...
These weapons win in medium range. No longer the best at every range.

Aim-Assist:
Remove it. The "Shooter" in FPS is suggestive benefit which scales with gun-game.

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Not trolling here. General Discussion implies dialogue.
Reduce the above points to rubbish! With maths and logic. Or not.

- Shotty GoBang

How to fix dust


remove any and all forms of aim assist (I use a gamepad btw)

Different turn speeds for different role suits, ie; uncapped for scouts, slightly capped for assaults, more capped for logi, heaviliy capped for heavies

I'm not feeling the impact of aim assist.

And the problem with this, is that based on what we've been told through the fluff and the Dev blogs, it should be something like this:

Assault Rifle, by which I mean the Blaster Rifle (or whatever they want to call it) dominates mid-short range and short-range, does okay in mid-range, relatively useless at mid-long and totally useless at long.

Scrambler Rifle dominates the mid-ranges with decreasing effectiveness the further away you get from mid-mid-range, including mid-long, mid, and mid-short. Can work at short range, but not very effective (other weapons dominate, weapon characteristics fail it), and also doesn't do well at long range (all relative for normal ranges, so excluding Sniper Rifles and such)

Laser Rifle is kind of a specialty weapon, so less versatility, but extreme effectiveness (like the shotgun). Crushes at long range, can go to mid-long range and not be useless, getting more and more worthless as you get closer and closer.

And that's just for the weapons proposed. An example of one not mentioned, would be the shotgun, like the LR, specialty, so it should crush at short range, even vs. an AR.