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Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 47	Posted - 2013.08.31 15:13:00 - [1] - Quote When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game
Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 153	Posted - 2013.08.31 15:22:00 - [2] - Quote I am actually warming up my KBM skills again because they will be gods choice of controller once they are able to do 180 degree turns again. Currently the only negative to KBM is equipment scrolling (I might need a new mouse for that), which only really hurts logis with their multiple options. I prefer controllers so I don't have to switch every time I play a vehicle, DS3s have them beat there, but KBM strafe/aim is just too good to pass up.
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven 101	Posted - 2013.08.31 15:56:00 - [3] - Quote I agree, a ps3 game should not be played with a mouse and keyboard, and if they are they should not have an advantage. Makes me want to either quit, or switch controls but I would h8 playing then, I shouldnt have to do either. I also think you should respec my k/d every week until I can play fairly against other players.
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven 331	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:30:00 - [4] - Quote Removing a feature wouldn't be a very smart decision considering a number of people (including me) started this game because it had KB/M support. This game already has dwindling numbers and I'm certain a good portion of those remaining would quit if they removed it. Honestly, a PC client is what this game needs but is very very unlikely, and splitting up the player base based on input would be even worse. Wait until 1.4 and see how the aim assists fare. Considering mouse won't get any aim assist whatsoever, DS3s may actually start faring better in CQC because your reticle will be magnetized to the person. I know I definitely struggle in CQC sometimes because of the wonky aiming with mouse input sometimes. Another note, most of the top players on the leader boards actually use DS3. Sure, if you're amazing with KB/M it probably gives you an edge on precision, the DS3 is way better for vehicle controls (derpships in particular). So it's not as straightforward as "anyone with KB/M will beat DS3 every time".
Bethiee Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:34:00 - [5] - Quote If battlefield 3 and 4 do it on PS3 then all your arguments are moot.. that's a 1-2 bullet death game with good aim... so just move on... PS4 is fully KB/m supported... laptops are becoming tablets and everyone's flat-screen is becoming their computer monitor... with a wireless keyboard and mouse sitting in their recliner chair pocket. The top of the killboard's are all ds3 users, mail them and ask.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 29	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:37:00 - [6] - Quote If KBM becomes a thing that people have to use to compete, I'll just quit. I'm not going to use a KBM on a console exclusive game, just to have fun. Studies have shown that KBM is vastly superior to Controllers for FPSs, that is why nobody has mixed them before on a console. In fact one of the reasons I think consoles are awe some is because they are much more balanced than a PC, where your hardware has so much to do with the performance of a game and your performance in the game. What I'm trying to say, is that KBM shouldn't exist in this game, no matter how many Eve fans there are. If I were to play Eve I would be expected to use a KBM to play, they should be expected to use a controller here.
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 419	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:45:00 - [7] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: I agree, a ps3 game should not be played with a mouse and keyboard, and if they are they should not have an advantage. Makes me want to either quit, or switch controls but I would h8 playing then, I shouldnt have to do either. I also think you should reset my k/d every week until I can play fairly against other players. Fixed
Dragon Grace Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 15	Posted - 2013.09.02 18:00:00 - [8] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: If KBM becomes a thing that people have to use to compete, I'll just quit. I'm not going to use a KBM on a console exclusive game, just to have fun. Studies have shown that KBM is vastly superior to Controllers for FPSs, that is why nobody has mixed them before on a console. In fact one of the reasons I think consoles are awe some is because they are much more balanced than a PC, where your hardware has so much to do with the performance of a game and your performance in the game. What I'm trying to say, is that KBM shouldn't exist in this game, no matter how many Eve fans there are. If I were to play Eve I would be expected to use a KBM to play, they should be expected to use a controller here. there is so much wrong here with what you just said. "If KBM becomes a thing that people have to use to compete, I'll just quit. I'm not going to use a KBM on a console exclusive game, just to have fun" -if you playing the game just to have fun then you shouldn't really be caring whether you win or lose. you sound like the difference matters....very much like a person who is playing to compete. "In fact one of the reasons I think consoles are awe some is because they are much more balanced than a PC, where your hardware has so much to do with the performance of a game and your performance in the game" - one of the great things about PC hardware is that you can get the stuff that works best for YOU! it may not necessarily be the same hardware as someone else as there is a lot out there, all catering to the vast comfort requirement for a variety of gamers. "What I'm trying to say, is that KBM shouldn't exist in this game, no matter how many Eve fans there are. If I were to play Eve I would be expected to use a KBM to play, they should be expected to use a controller here." - if you seriously think that the choice of kb/m was because of eve players, you are SOOO mistaken. You mind is so closed here. First, the console was designed to support kb/m for a reason. secondly, MAG can be played with a kb/m. thirdly, the best players in the game are using DS3's and finally.....you are forgetting where the FPS genre began. On a PC, with a keyboard and mouse. If there is anything that doesn't belong with this game....its the controller. The FPS genre has been adapted to cater for the use of a controller...i think the word im looking for is "limited". when i play FPS's on a console with a controller, i always find it much easier to play and i do very well as result. but i always feel too slow. the controller can't react as fast as i want to. The keyboard and mouse give the choice for a person to play their way, the best way that they are comfortable with (whether this be ergonic design and comfort of the device....or perhaps even just the controler scheme which is hardly up for contest on a controller as sometimes being horribly done) for some a controller is that comfort, for others....it's not. If you expect those who arent comfortable to make do so you can win more than you are now (by the sounds of things anyway)....then that is just selfish and you have no consideration for other gamer's and their comfort while playing. And a final final note....YES YOU WOULD BE EXPECTED TO USE A KEYBOARD AND A MOUSE IN EVE!!! there are so many reasons why, but mainly 1) that it has a cursor. 2) you would get royally raped because the controller wouldnt be able to move that cursor fast enough when you need to give command quick and 3.......there are far too many shortcuts in the game that cannot possibly be covered by the controller. The controller interface evolved from the keyboard. No one is going to devolve a control system where it doesnt need to be done. P.S apologies for any typo's. Im kinda half asleep.
Dragon Grace Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 15	Posted - 2013.09.02 18:08:00 - [9] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game If the game is "flipping awful"....why are you playing? and why does it matter what control system people use. From the way you are talking, the game is doomed regardless.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3399	Posted - 2013.09.02 19:22:00 - [10] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game You can't exceed the suit rotation speed caps with any control method, including KBM. It offers no advantage in rotation, and as such only offers an alternative to controllers, which may be beneficial for people who have more experience with that method.

KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 699	Posted - 2013.09.02 19:36:00 - [11] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game In the year 2013 any modern console accepts USB human interface devices.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 946	Posted - 2013.09.02 20:12:00 - [12] - Quote Pain in the ass to use a kb/m on the sofa facing my PS3. Am I going to be forced into this after the update? We shall see.
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 160	Posted - 2013.09.02 20:12:00 - [13] - Quote Delicious whine! Let me pour myself a glass here... Step up your game, using a controller in an FPS instead of a mouse is like cruising around in a wheelchair with perfectly fine legs. You may have fun for some twisted reasons, but you wont be winning a marathon.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 38	Posted - 2013.09.02 20:25:00 - [14] - Quote If thus game had a pc variant then I wouldn't care if it had kb/m controls. Since it doesn't I feel that it's more of an accessory thing. P.S. Does anyone play with Move?
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 49	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:47:00 - [15] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Delicious whine! Let me pour myself a glass here... Step up your game, using a controller in an FPS instead of a mouse is like cruising around in a wheelchair with perfectly fine legs. You may have fun for some twisted reasons, but you wont be winning a marathon. You should try reading my post .. I use a KB/M I just don;t agree that It should be better than a DS3 on a PS3 game ... if both controls were equal in regards to hit detection straffing and aiming then it would be purely down to personal choice which is fine but right now .. from someone who uses both KB/M and DS3 it is significantly easier to use KB/M than DS3 .. maybe im just really good with KB/M and useless with DS3 and yes this game is flipping awful, only reason I still play is because i'm an optimist and 1 day they'll make this game into the game they said it would be
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 50	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:52:00 - [16] - Quote Dragon Grace wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game If the game is "flipping awful"....why are you playing? and why does it matter what control system people use. From the way you are talking, the game is doomed regardless. As i've said im an optimist and right now this game IS flipping awful and your a fool if you think otherwise, im still here because i believe that one day this game will become the game they said it would become .. you have to admit this game is basically still in BETA i mean how many fully released games do you know have to rebuild matchmaking from the ground up or fix hit detection, aiming .. have barely any variety in equipment (1 heavy suit .. nearly 2 years after you could play the game there is 1 heavy suit ...and I dont even use a heavy suit)
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 141	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:53:00 - [17] - Quote You will NEVER be able to balance DS3 and KBM. They each have strengths and weaknesses. Pick one and stop whining every ****ing day by posting a brand new thread about this garbage daily.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 50	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:56:00 - [18] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: You will NEVER be able to balance DS3 and KBM. They each have strengths and weaknesses. Pick one and stop whining every ****ing day by posting a brand new thread about this garbage daily. Freedom of speech mothertrucker I'll say what I like when I like and theres absolutely nothing you can do about it Munch
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 141	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:58:00 - [19] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Pain in the ass to use a kb/m on the sofa facing my PS3. Am I going to be forced into this after the update? We shall see. I've got something similar to this that worked ok before I moved to the office after my plasma tv got burn-in. www.amazon.com/HandStands-Laptop-Lap-Desk-Comfortable/dp/B0013KLL72/ref=pd_sim_sbs_op_11 I had a func pad and mouse on the armrest and the keyboard on the laptop surface and was able to play while reclined in my rocker....was awesome.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 141	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:59:00 - [20] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: You will NEVER be able to balance DS3 and KBM. They each have strengths and weaknesses. Pick one and stop whining every ****ing day by posting a brand new thread about this garbage daily. Freedom of speech mothertrucker I'll say what I like when I like and theres absolutely nothing you can do about it Munch Good point. +1

CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 268	Posted - 2013.09.03 15:17:00 - [21] - Quote i dont see y we even have an argument on which is better when it comes to pc vs console... they almost seem like complete opposites with a few things in common.. what i still want to know is why the pc version of a video game is always cheaper than the console version? this whole war between console and pc is confusing i think i should try kbm controls for an fps shooter one of these days... although i think a kbm would be more difficult to use rather than a controller..
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 78	Posted - 2013.09.03 15:54:00 - [22] - Quote Bethiee wrote: If battlefield 3 and 4 do it on PS3 then all your arguments are moot.. that's a 1-2 bullet death game with good aim... so just move on... PS4 is fully KB/m supported... laptops are becoming tablets and everyone's flat-screen is becoming their computer monitor... with a wireless keyboard and mouse sitting in their recliner chair pocket. The top of the killboard's are all ds3 users, mail them and ask. well as of right now killboards cannot be compared with KBM and DS3 because no game yet has both controller and KBM compatible.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 144	Posted - 2013.09.03 16:57:00 - [23] - Quote Picked up a ds3 to try out the aim assist in my trash AR scout: 15/1 Your argument does not impress me.
Foxbat 072 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.09.03 18:39:00 - [24] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Picked up a ds3 to try out the aim assist in my trash AR scout: 15/1 Your argument does not impress me. this
Dragon Grace Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 15	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:04:00 - [25] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: Dragon Grace wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game If the game is "flipping awful"....why are you playing? and why does it matter what control system people use. From the way you are talking, the game is doomed regardless. As i've said im an optimist and right now this game IS flipping awful and your a fool if you think otherwise, im still here because i believe that one day this game will become the game they said it would become .. you have to admit this game is basically still in BETA i mean how many fully released games do you know have to rebuild matchmaking from the ground up or fix hit detection, aiming .. have barely any variety in equipment (1 heavy suit .. nearly 2 years after you could play the game there is 1 heavy suit ...and I dont even use a heavy suit) How many games? well, let see. Planetside 2 (is nowhere near finished) and have had balancing and hot box issues aswell as outfit and squad creation problems since its "launch". Mag in it early days was riddled with problems. It wasnt until about 18months of it being live that is started to work properly. Like almost any ambitous project....it has its kinks. And i am not a fool to believe otherwise. Your comment about the game being "flipping awful" is a subjective opinion....and far from a justifiable fact. "you would be a fool to think otherwise". My opinion on the game is also subjective and justified by MY thoughts and feelings. P.S yes, free of speech is something that should be exercised at will...but to the point of being a closed minded arrogant ass? i think not. There is no "freedom to be a ****" allowed in this community. And the only reason you would use freedom of speech as a defence to what you are being picked out in saying is because you are far too much of a fairy to exercise the right anywhere else in your life. Im sick of people like your giving it all that behind a computer screen. Golden rule of life - treat everyone the way you wish to be treated yourself i propose a silver rule of life... - Treat everyone online the way you would treat them in real life. ...that would certainly leave people like your completely discarded from a community as strong and proud as the one that CCP has worked for a decade to grow.
Grief PK D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 32	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:23:00 - [26] - Quote If you don't like the fact that there is KB/M ... you can quit. If CCP removes the KB/M ... then I can quit.
Atlas Exenthal mnemonic. 42	Posted - 2013.09.04 00:03:00 - [27] - Quote If you're complaining about controls on the PS3, you're REALLY gonna hate it when Dust is ported to PC
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 813	Posted - 2013.09.04 00:21:00 - [28] - Quote Atlas Exenthal wrote: If you're complaining about controls on the PS3, you're REALLY gonna hate it when Dust is ported to PC This game was never supposed to be PS3-exclusive... ffs. It's so glaringly obvious now. Wolfman worked hard on those controls. Did you guys try checking options to make sure your sensitivity was turned up? I refuse to believe that a senior dev worked that hard on something just for it to be broken still. I'll see when I get in game. If so, I'm not blaming him nor CCP. I will continue to blame the platform. Honestly, at this point. I don't need Dust. If it never leaves PS3, and never goes to PC or PS4... I'll just play EVE now. I just started a subscirption for EVE, because Valkyrie is coming next year. I hope Valkyrie has better integration. Valkyrie got me into Eve, not Dust. Dust can rot for all I care.
WolfganGt3 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 9	Posted - 2013.09.04 00:23:00 - [29] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: When a KB/M is better than a control pad for aiming and shooting on a CONSOLE game then you know there is a serious problem and BTW i use a KB/M however i dont want to use it on my dam PS3 ... remove it .. it's a console you get a control pad for free when you buy the thing dont force players to have to go out and buy a KB/M just to play this flipping awful game Some of us must use a keyboard and mouse, due to poor design by sony my hands will seize playing with their controller. Had a broken Scaphoid bone...
WolfganGt3 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 10	Posted - 2013.09.04 00:31:00 - [30] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: i dont see y we even have an argument on which is better when it comes to pc vs console... they almost seem like complete opposites with a few things in common.. what i still want to know is why the pc version of a video game is always cheaper than the console version? this whole war between console and pc is confusing i think i should try kbm controls for an fps shooter one of these days... although i think a kbm would be more difficult to use rather than a controller.. First off, Whenever I Must use a controller for Fps, I max the sensitivity right away , so I'm used to the fastest speed. More importantly, Pc is not lets say following main stream, I would compare PC gamers to a Cheap Bastard, I for one am. Console , has many more people that don't even know what a computer has inside it , so they are more easily duped to pay 60 dollars for a single player title. I remember when games were 40 bucks brand new. All of a sudden its 50 , then 60 , now I'm seeing the companies release "Collector Edition" to scrape the market to 150 so they are comfortable with 70. And to stop blathering on about stuff no one cares about... Try KBM , its worked well since counterstrike 1.3 for me... WASD CTRL SPACE RIGHT CLICK LEFT CLICK 1 2 3 4 5 etc... TAB



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