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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:43:00 -
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Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2153
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:47:00 -
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Its ridiculous.
Most of my deaths these days are due to random nades.
The most annoying thing is the fact they hardly make any noise, you hear the *Klink* when they hit the ground, then they go off.
The HUD indicator doesn't work half the time either. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS X. II Top Men.
187
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:47:00 -
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Stop playing catch with the person throwing it. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
990
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:47:00 -
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NadeSpam514 |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
337
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:48:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas.
LOL, my speed tanked minmitar logistics suits primary weapon is the remote explosive... its funny that nobody uses this as a primary. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3390
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:50:00 -
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Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
164
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:50:00 -
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Quit standing still, if I die form a nade it's cus it was well primed and well thrown. I don't die from nades very often. I also rarely use more than a Sever logi suit with less than 400 HP. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative..
687
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:50:00 -
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Naaah weapons are supposed to be lethal. Grenades just happen to be bigger hits. It's not that they are a main weapons system. True, nanohives resupply nades a bit too quickly. But still they are just an addition, and perfect hits are not too common.
EDIT: and difference between standard and proto suits are not supposed to be THAT big. Sure, losing well built expensive proto suit annoys but they are not god mode, you know. |
Tectonic Fusion
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
195
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:52:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. LOL, my speed tanked minmitar logistics suits primary weapon is the remote explosive... its funny that nobody uses this as a primary. HAHA NOPE DUVOLLE ALL THE WAY MOVING ALONG!!! |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:55:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that.
L5 shields, L5 armour, L5 for most core skills, complex shields and it matters zip! when the first thing folks are doing is spamming grenades instead of shooting.
Whatever happens on September 17th and Start of October some folks are getting fixes and its a full fix in November. |
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
735
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:56:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas.
Grenades are designed to OHKO infantry.
so...
Jump? |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
203
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:56:00 -
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Yes...a hand held explosive is a devastating weapon.
ahh, History. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
992
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:57:00 -
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Grenades sometimes get a "headshot" like DMV increase in my experience. I've once been killed by a core nade and it said it did 1200 dmg to my scout lol.
I've also 1 hit killed a heavy before with 1 |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:58:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Quit standing still, if I die form a nade it's cus it was well primed and well thrown. I don't die from nades very often. I also rarely use more than a Sever logi suit with less than 400 HP.
Facepalm since there is no standing still with complex kin cats and complex stamina mods...lol. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:01:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. Grenades are designed to OHKO infantry. so... Jump?
Unbalanced games lead to decreased player counts. We went from more than 9000 to less than 5000 thanks to unbalanced TAR, unbalanced contact grenades, unbalanced murder taxis, unbalanced flaylocks....lol.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
300
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:04:00 -
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Heres a tip: don't bunch up with the blueberries, they all like to crowd together in tight spaces, and as such the first thing the rasberries think is"oh **** chuck nades at the crowd!!!" as they should. Massdrivers and FGs and nades are all explosive, and the dust mentality is to bunch up, and do so behind cover. Thats why theyre effective, thats why people are b1tching. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7896
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:08:00 -
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Hello Superman,
I know you think because you have been given all the best equipment and training in the world makes you invincible.
I would like to state that is not the case, a bullet with your name on it will still kill you. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
592
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:10:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that. MLT Suits Have Lower base eHP values. Standard through prototype all have the same base eHP values. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:10:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Heres a tip: don't bunch up with the blueberries, they all like to crowd together in tight spaces, and as such the first thing the rasberries think is"oh **** chuck nades at the crowd!!!" as they should. Massdrivers and FGs and nades are all explosive, and the dust mentality is to bunch up, and do so behind cover. Thats why theyre effective, thats why people are b1tching.
I run MINMATAR for speed since the one thing I do is flank, flank and flank and my playstyle is hit and run and never bunch up like a stupidberry aka bluberry.
My point is that gungame has given way to grenade spam, murder taxi and forge gun sniping....lol.
It seems CCP only listens to Dust 514 lower player counts so back to Fallout New Vegas. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
719
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:12:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Stop playing catch with the person throwing it.
LOL this!
But seriously though, you got a proto suit. And you're mad that you get killed by a locus nade? There's a coincidence that's funny in there... |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1375
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:13:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. lucky.. my CD for fallout doesn't work anymore. |
Dexter307
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
134
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:14:00 -
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Grenades seem to do more damage then they say they do. For example, a militia locus grenade killed me and it said it did 652 damage to me. But they only do 400, and even with the 30% bonus to armor it should only do 520 |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3391
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:15:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:L5 shields Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit.
Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit.
Quote:L5 for most core skills Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit.
Complex Shield WHAT though? And how many? And what suit was this on? And what tier of grenade was the target using? And did they have a huge wall of Nanohives swarming all around them to let them "spam" grenades? Or were they running out of grenades and about to start using their main weapon if they didn't get lucky? |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
305
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:18:00 -
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The HUD indicator is broken, end of story. I can't tell you how many times ive heard the "kink" sound from an uncooked nade landing on the ground only to walk directly on it with no HUD indicator,
It appears the only time it shows is for friendly nades
Can we get a DEV to confirm or deny the two skills under drop suit electronics have an effect on revealing nades? (Scan radius/strength bonus) |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hello Superman,
I know you think because you have been given all the best equipment and training in the world makes you invincible.
I would like to state that is not the case, a bullet with your name on it will still kill you.
Gungame is cool but a lot of folks when loosing a gunbattle pull a ***** move like spamming grenades...lol.
Tick, tock November is getting closer. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
66
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:23:00 -
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I wish they would take out all the weapons, suits, and vehicles. remove our arms and legs to so we can't punch or kick. oh and remove the MCC because i die if i don't use inertia dampener.
You know what kills me in 1 hit? almost everything in the game. I love my scout suit. it's a different game when you go in knowing everything will kill you just as quick. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:23:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:L5 shields Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit. Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit. Quote:L5 for most core skills Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit. Complex Shield WHAT though? And how many? And what suit was this on? And what tier of grenade was the target using? And did they have a huge wall of Nanohives swarming all around them to let them "spam" grenades? Or were they running out of grenades and about to start using their main weapon if they didn't get lucky?
MK-0 five complex shield extenders one complex kincat, complex stamina death by militia locus grenade...lol.
Its lolworthy when folks BEGIN the encounter by spamming grenades instead of shooting...lol. |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
163
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:25:00 -
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I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1376
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:27:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. hm.. what? why? are you a scout or something? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5969
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:28:00 -
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I wish heavies could fit core nades without gimping their fits
Also Forge Gun OP. I hate being a forge gunner, it's so damn easy. |
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