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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:43:00 -
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Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2153
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:47:00 -
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Its ridiculous.
Most of my deaths these days are due to random nades.
The most annoying thing is the fact they hardly make any noise, you hear the *Klink* when they hit the ground, then they go off.
The HUD indicator doesn't work half the time either. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS X. II Top Men.
187
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:47:00 -
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Stop playing catch with the person throwing it. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
990
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:47:00 -
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NadeSpam514 |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
337
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:48:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas.
LOL, my speed tanked minmitar logistics suits primary weapon is the remote explosive... its funny that nobody uses this as a primary. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3390
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:50:00 -
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Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
164
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:50:00 -
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Quit standing still, if I die form a nade it's cus it was well primed and well thrown. I don't die from nades very often. I also rarely use more than a Sever logi suit with less than 400 HP. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative..
687
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:50:00 -
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Naaah weapons are supposed to be lethal. Grenades just happen to be bigger hits. It's not that they are a main weapons system. True, nanohives resupply nades a bit too quickly. But still they are just an addition, and perfect hits are not too common.
EDIT: and difference between standard and proto suits are not supposed to be THAT big. Sure, losing well built expensive proto suit annoys but they are not god mode, you know. |
Tectonic Fusion
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
195
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:52:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. LOL, my speed tanked minmitar logistics suits primary weapon is the remote explosive... its funny that nobody uses this as a primary. HAHA NOPE DUVOLLE ALL THE WAY MOVING ALONG!!! |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:55:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that.
L5 shields, L5 armour, L5 for most core skills, complex shields and it matters zip! when the first thing folks are doing is spamming grenades instead of shooting.
Whatever happens on September 17th and Start of October some folks are getting fixes and its a full fix in November. |
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
735
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:56:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas.
Grenades are designed to OHKO infantry.
so...
Jump? |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
203
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:56:00 -
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Yes...a hand held explosive is a devastating weapon.
ahh, History. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
992
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:57:00 -
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Grenades sometimes get a "headshot" like DMV increase in my experience. I've once been killed by a core nade and it said it did 1200 dmg to my scout lol.
I've also 1 hit killed a heavy before with 1 |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:58:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Quit standing still, if I die form a nade it's cus it was well primed and well thrown. I don't die from nades very often. I also rarely use more than a Sever logi suit with less than 400 HP.
Facepalm since there is no standing still with complex kin cats and complex stamina mods...lol. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:01:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. Grenades are designed to OHKO infantry. so... Jump?
Unbalanced games lead to decreased player counts. We went from more than 9000 to less than 5000 thanks to unbalanced TAR, unbalanced contact grenades, unbalanced murder taxis, unbalanced flaylocks....lol.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
300
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:04:00 -
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Heres a tip: don't bunch up with the blueberries, they all like to crowd together in tight spaces, and as such the first thing the rasberries think is"oh **** chuck nades at the crowd!!!" as they should. Massdrivers and FGs and nades are all explosive, and the dust mentality is to bunch up, and do so behind cover. Thats why theyre effective, thats why people are b1tching. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7896
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:08:00 -
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Hello Superman,
I know you think because you have been given all the best equipment and training in the world makes you invincible.
I would like to state that is not the case, a bullet with your name on it will still kill you. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
592
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:10:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that. MLT Suits Have Lower base eHP values. Standard through prototype all have the same base eHP values. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:10:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Heres a tip: don't bunch up with the blueberries, they all like to crowd together in tight spaces, and as such the first thing the rasberries think is"oh **** chuck nades at the crowd!!!" as they should. Massdrivers and FGs and nades are all explosive, and the dust mentality is to bunch up, and do so behind cover. Thats why theyre effective, thats why people are b1tching.
I run MINMATAR for speed since the one thing I do is flank, flank and flank and my playstyle is hit and run and never bunch up like a stupidberry aka bluberry.
My point is that gungame has given way to grenade spam, murder taxi and forge gun sniping....lol.
It seems CCP only listens to Dust 514 lower player counts so back to Fallout New Vegas. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
719
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:12:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Stop playing catch with the person throwing it.
LOL this!
But seriously though, you got a proto suit. And you're mad that you get killed by a locus nade? There's a coincidence that's funny in there... |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1375
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:13:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. lucky.. my CD for fallout doesn't work anymore. |
Dexter307
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
134
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:14:00 -
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Grenades seem to do more damage then they say they do. For example, a militia locus grenade killed me and it said it did 652 damage to me. But they only do 400, and even with the 30% bonus to armor it should only do 520 |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3391
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:15:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:L5 shields Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit.
Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit.
Quote:L5 for most core skills Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit.
Complex Shield WHAT though? And how many? And what suit was this on? And what tier of grenade was the target using? And did they have a huge wall of Nanohives swarming all around them to let them "spam" grenades? Or were they running out of grenades and about to start using their main weapon if they didn't get lucky? |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
305
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:18:00 -
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The HUD indicator is broken, end of story. I can't tell you how many times ive heard the "kink" sound from an uncooked nade landing on the ground only to walk directly on it with no HUD indicator,
It appears the only time it shows is for friendly nades
Can we get a DEV to confirm or deny the two skills under drop suit electronics have an effect on revealing nades? (Scan radius/strength bonus) |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hello Superman,
I know you think because you have been given all the best equipment and training in the world makes you invincible.
I would like to state that is not the case, a bullet with your name on it will still kill you.
Gungame is cool but a lot of folks when loosing a gunbattle pull a ***** move like spamming grenades...lol.
Tick, tock November is getting closer. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
66
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:23:00 -
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I wish they would take out all the weapons, suits, and vehicles. remove our arms and legs to so we can't punch or kick. oh and remove the MCC because i die if i don't use inertia dampener.
You know what kills me in 1 hit? almost everything in the game. I love my scout suit. it's a different game when you go in knowing everything will kill you just as quick. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:23:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:L5 shields Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit. Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit. Quote:L5 for most core skills Gives just as much benefit to a Militia suit. Complex Shield WHAT though? And how many? And what suit was this on? And what tier of grenade was the target using? And did they have a huge wall of Nanohives swarming all around them to let them "spam" grenades? Or were they running out of grenades and about to start using their main weapon if they didn't get lucky?
MK-0 five complex shield extenders one complex kincat, complex stamina death by militia locus grenade...lol.
Its lolworthy when folks BEGIN the encounter by spamming grenades instead of shooting...lol. |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
163
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:25:00 -
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I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1376
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:27:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. hm.. what? why? are you a scout or something? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5969
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:28:00 -
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I wish heavies could fit core nades without gimping their fits
Also Forge Gun OP. I hate being a forge gunner, it's so damn easy. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3395
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:30:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that. MLT Suits Have Lower base eHP values. Standard through prototype all have the same base eHP values. Yes, but base HP and total HP don't necessarily match up. A Prototype Scout with no Shield Extenders or Armour Plates will have significantly less HP than a Militia Assault suit with a couple of Militia Extenders and a Militia Armour Plate. Just saying "Prototype suit" didn't really explain anything because it's POSSIBLE for a Militia suit to have more HP than a Prototype suit depending on how they're fitted. But since that's finally been addressed...
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:MK-0 five complex shield extenders one complex kincat, complex stamina death by militia locus grenade...lol.
Its lolworthy when folks BEGIN the encounter by spamming grenades instead of shooting...lol. All you're missing now is what suit that was on.
Doesn't sound like it should have happened though... unless you somehow crammed all those Shield Extenders onto a Scout suit that doesn't have that many High Slots? or took 2 grenades with perfectly-timed explosion? Or a Shotgun blast right before the grenade went off?
Other than those scenarios, it sounds like this is a legit complaint. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Did your Proto suit have any kind of HP increasing modules (Armour Plates/Shield Extenders)? If so, were they Proto as well, or just the suit itself? What kind of suit are you running? What tier of Locus Grenade was used?
Just because you have a "Proto" suit, doesn't mean you have more HP than a Militia suit. Especially if you're a Proto Scout with Damage Mods and a Shotgun and no Armour Plates because SPEED.
Also, people only carry 2 - 3 Locus Grenades at once, and require Nanohives if they want more than that. MLT Suits Have Lower base eHP values. Standard through prototype all have the same base eHP values. Yes, but base HP and total HP don't necessarily match up. A Prototype Scout with no Shield Extenders or Armour Plates will have significantly less HP than a Militia Assault suit with a couple of Militia Extenders and a Militia Armour Plate. Just saying "Prototype suit" didn't really explain anything because it's POSSIBLE for a Militia suit to have more HP than a Prototype suit depending on how they're fitted. But since that's finally been addressed... Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:MK-0 five complex shield extenders one complex kincat, complex stamina death by militia locus grenade...lol.
Its lolworthy when folks BEGIN the encounter by spamming grenades instead of shooting...lol. All you're missing now is what suit that was on. Doesn't sound like it should have happened though... unless you somehow crammed all those Shield Extenders onto a Scout suit that doesn't have that many High Slots? or took 2 grenades with perfectly-timed explosion? Or a Shotgun blast right before the grenade went off? Other than those scenarios, it sounds like this is a legit complaint.
MK-0 is an assault suit, minmatar prototype.
FIVE high slots, two low slots. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
274
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:33:00 -
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Get away from the grenade. |
Chris F2112
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
381
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:34:00 -
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Of course you begin the encounter with a grenade. It makes any battle much easier when you can catch them off guard with a grenade. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2157
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:34:00 -
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Core Locuses are ridiculous.
Lol7.2m, 3 of them, 600 Damage.
Yep, sounds balanced right?
Oh and dont forget they hardly make a sound, silent killers.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
712
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:36:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Core Locuses are ridiculous. Lol7.2m, 3 of them, 600 Damage. Yep, sounds balanced right? Oh and dont forget they hardly make a sound, silent killers.
AGREED. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
164
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:37:00 -
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So you have around 687 HP and are mad when something that does 400-600HP damage kills you? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3396
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:44:00 -
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I'm half asleep and somehow failed to see the MK-0 part... sorry.
The rest of my post still stands. Either something else damaged you close enough to when the grenade went off that you didn't see it happen, or I agree that shouldn't really be happening. |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
164
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:44:00 -
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ladwar wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. hm.. what? why? are you a scout or something? No I am not a scout, but locus grenades don't care what you are, they kill any suit like they are a scout. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1376
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:46:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:ladwar wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. hm.. what? why? are you a scout or something? No I am not a scout, but locus grenades don't care what you are, they kill any suit like they are a scout. heavies |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5970
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:47:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:Get away from the grenade. Cook much?
If your grenade touches the ground before you collect your 50 WP, you're doing it wrong. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
71
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:48:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. let me guess u dont have more then 700 ehp, that why u die in one hit some cal can take 2 core nades to get kill
anyway are u stupid? if they spam it get away from them. no one ask u run in to nades spam zone. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1377
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:Get away from the grenade. Cook much? always... i love throwing them right at the face and bounce right before they explode is really nice. |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
164
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Posted - 2013.08.31 02:17:00 -
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ladwar wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:ladwar wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad. hm.. what? why? are you a scout or something? No I am not a scout, but locus grenades don't care what you are, they kill any suit like they are a scout. heavies Heavy part time, Gallente assault full time. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
740
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Posted - 2013.08.31 02:46:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. Grenades are designed to OHKO infantry. so... Jump? Unbalanced games lead to decreased player counts. We went from more than 9000 to less than 5000 thanks to unbalanced TAR, unbalanced contact grenades, unbalanced murder taxis, unbalanced flaylocks....lol.
Well maybe they need a BLAST AREA reduction. But damage wise they are ok. I dont remember surviving a grenade in ANY other FPS i've ever played.... |
Thurak1
Psygod9
85
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Posted - 2013.08.31 04:06:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Heres a tip: don't bunch up with the blueberries, they all like to crowd together in tight spaces, and as such the first thing the rasberries think is"oh **** chuck nades at the crowd!!!" as they should. Massdrivers and FGs and nades are all explosive, and the dust mentality is to bunch up, and do so behind cover. Thats why theyre effective, thats why people are b1tching.
Yep. Yesturday while i was playing in my tank hunter fitting ( breach proto FG cheap dropsuit and damage mod) I got 3 kills off 1 shot with my FG. So everyone was within about 2 meters of the blast. It was glorious. Course the 2 people i didnt frag quickly turned on me and killed me. But it was so worth it. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.31 04:17:00 -
[47] - Quote
Take the splash radius off the granades and put um on REs lol |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
307
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Posted - 2013.08.31 04:51:00 -
[48] - Quote
TL;DR Waaaahhhh CCP, my proto suit got killed. Clearly what killed me is OP. Nerf now plskkthx. |
Canaan Knute
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
109
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Posted - 2013.08.31 05:23:00 -
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I was under the impression that grenades cam kill any merc in one shot with a direct hit. My prototype heavy fit has roughly 1300 HP, and I sometimes die instantly to grenades. |
Eldest Dragon
0uter.Heaven
100
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Posted - 2013.08.31 05:49:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:I have no respect for people who use locus grenades and know that they are bad.
I can down you easily with my ar, but if you choose to huddle up with ppl or attack me and im outnumbered, I prefer to grenade and then finish you and whoever else is left off with my gex/divoulle.
Main point here is....do not group up with ppl sitting in one spot and do not gang up on me...or I will grenade you. Further more idc about your respect tbh, I can grenade anytime I feel needed, and if you think the reason is bc i'm bad, come at me 1 vs 1 and lets find out. |
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Eldest Dragon
0uter.Heaven
100
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Posted - 2013.08.31 05:55:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Quit standing still, if I die form a nade it's cus it was well primed and well thrown. I don't die from nades very often. I also rarely use more than a Sever logi suit with less than 400 HP.
I well prime and throw mine every time, cooking and accuracy actually takes skill sometimes some ppl just think there lucky shots, I challenge myself and practice throwing every day. I love hitting ppl far away while there sprinting, I just cook it up and then throw it in front of them, its timed to land right where they will be when it hits the ground. |
Misses Trickster
Industrial removal service
11
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Posted - 2013.08.31 06:00:00 -
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I personally hardly ever get a good nade kill, its mostly spray and pray or giving me a way to escape
Nanohive with a nade spammer? simply leave/flank/pull range. A wierd thing with dust over eve is nobody seems to get a rats about there ship, er, suit. people seem to focus on the kill just charging in check the area find a way to gain an advantage and take it
My fave way ot get nade kills is to wait for 1-2 people to start hacking a point then trapping them with the LAV and just tossing some nades while they attempt to jump over the LAV to get out |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
102
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Posted - 2013.08.31 06:04:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. LOL, my speed tanked minmitar logistics suits primary weapon is the remote explosive... its funny that nobody uses this as a primary.
No its not. Its funny retards like you do. |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
336
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Posted - 2013.08.31 07:48:00 -
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The death screen total damage done numbers are misleading and frequently silly in the amounts they display.
It has already been discussed over in the tech support section, it shows the total amount of damage the player has done to you over the course of time he has been fighting you.
So say you got almost killed, you found a healing nano-hive recharged or waited for your reps to kick in and went back into the ruckus; the same enemy closed in on you and got the kill, it adds up both encounters and totals if for the amount of damage dealt, and if someone else finishes you off you end up see Y-player did 30-35 damage to you instead of seeing X-player did 1200 damage to you.
I'm using proto-type level nano-hive... they give me the grenades and ammo I need and keep at least some of my team with ammo.
So please let me do my cooking in peace.
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Akdhar Saif
CybinSect
49
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:04:00 -
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Grenade explosion should have an effect on surrounding nades I.e. popping them or having the explosion fling them away. That one hgrenade will always be more effective and accurate than multiple grenades.
Hopefully this won't effect the server too much. |
Dust Project 514
Pistol King
244
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:33:00 -
[56] - Quote
I have to agree with grenades being a problem. Their power isn't the problem. It's the ammo count, allowing for spamming.
Just yesturday I had one of the most amazing matches, where I went 22 / 0 K/D, over 1600 WP, using a militia Amarr heavy frame, two Viziam SPs with 1 Complex Dmg mod, and militia grenades.
About half those kills were with just the grenades. I cooked and spammed them (thanks to nanohives), killing multi at a time throughout the whole match. I ended up in the number one spot.
Was glorious. But like I said in another thread a couple days ago, "Explosives are the biggest crutch in this game, right now.". |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
172
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Posted - 2013.08.31 14:59:00 -
[57] - Quote
Canaan Knute wrote:I was under the impression that grenades cam kill any merc in one shot with a direct hit. My prototype heavy fit has roughly 1300 HP, and I sometimes die instantly to grenades.
I get the headshot sound with nades from time to time, even got one with a prox mine last night. Not sure how it determines hit location but that might be whats doing it. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
407
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:03:00 -
[58] - Quote
Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Grenades are unbalanced at present since a OHK weapon tells folks why bother to shoot.
I.e. I was in proto testing out a fit and a squad of enemy were running towards me and instead of shooting they spammed grenades.
I wonder if this will be fixed since its just murder taxis, grenade spam and electrical grenades aka forge guns.
Anywho PS4 is getting here and my fix for Dust 514 for Today is to play Fallout New Vegas. Grenades. Lets go ahead and look at the history of war. They always kill what they land next to even in the future. get over it. or you can go play some sports. I hear kicking a ball is pretty balanced. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
407
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:05:00 -
[59] - Quote
Dust Project 514 wrote:I have to agree with grenades being a problem. Their power isn't the problem. It's the ammo count, allowing for spamming.
Just yesturday I had one of the most amazing matches, where I went 22 / 0 K/D, over 1600 WP, using a militia Amarr heavy frame, two Viziam SPs with 1 Complex Dmg mod, and militia grenades.
About half those kills were with just the grenades. I cooked and spammed them (thanks to nanohives), killing multi at a time throughout the whole match. I ended up in the number one spot.
Was glorious. But like I said in another thread a couple days ago, "Explosives are the biggest crutch in this game, right now.". So what do you say to people who want to be grenadiers? God you people are funny. Its ok to be a tryhard but its not ok to be a grenadier. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:33:00 -
[60] - Quote
The main problem is the excessive bonus explosive gets to armour. A core locus minces proto armour, but splashes off proto caldari. We'll see if the new plate stats in 1.4 make much difference. |
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Dust Project 514
Pistol King
245
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:18:00 -
[61] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:I". So what do you say to people who want to be grenadiers? God you people are funny. Its ok to be a tryhard but its not ok to be a grenadier.
I went 22 / 0 using a militia suit with proto Scrambler Pistols and militia grenades, where about half my kills came from constant cooking & spamming of the nades, coupled with the fact that I am NOT a grenadier, and you DON'T see the problem?
Those were proto stomping numbers and I wasn't using a proto suit, let alone have any.
Maybe I got a bunch of lucky chain kills or maybe I just have that much skill and would be a monster if I used proto suits.
Won't matter in 2.4 weeks, anyway. |
R'adeh Hunt
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
371
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:20:00 -
[62] - Quote
Grenades are OHK weapons? How unrealistic...oh...wait.... |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
90
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:21:00 -
[63] - Quote
Seriously?
Grenades are SUPPOSED to be OHK weapons. |
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