CCP Logibro has confirmed that CCP has barely just started looking into vehicle locks

I can understand not wanting randoms just jumping in your vehicles and spending the game riding round earning assist point (that's another subject - the owner should be getting assists for people getting kills using his/her asset - but not gunners - I've even said elsewhere you could possibly get assists for calling in a second vehicle for someone unskilled to use - so long as it's not abusable in any way)

However vehicles are sometimes a good means to get somewhere safe, out of the line of fire when you're low on health. What would you think to those turret-less seats (maybe turreted ones too) giving a small armor repair rate (or shield aswell) quickening their exit if that's their purpose for entering and providing you with some triage points for giving them repairs.

It shouldn't be too much repair, or it'd be taking away from the logistics role, but it could be a small hp boost to their dropsuits regen and provide the driver with some wp in exchange for a short term safe haven.

What you think ?

NO
That blueberry is already in there since I called it in and he has no intention of leaving. He spent ZERO SP, ZERO ISK, and gives ZERO ***** about my tank. Small gunners are nothing but an annoyance currently with the horrible small turret hit detecton and inability to lock your vehicle. The fact that CCP just started looking into locks just made me lose even more faith in their ability to listen to player feedback.

NO
That blueberry is already in there since I called it in and he has no intention of leaving. He spent ZERO SP, ZERO ISK, and gives ZERO ***** about my tank. Small gunners are nothing but an annoyance currently with the horrible small turret hit detecton and inability to lock your vehicle. The fact that CCP just started looking into locks just made me lose even more faith in their ability to listen to player feedback.

Random game, good dropship map. Call in my assault dropship. Notice half the team afking in the MCC. Fly up in that bay door and one random jumps in my dropship. Proceed to the nearest hive of reds and give homie a good angle, then pin down most of their team at the clone vat.

small group of soldiers actually fighting uses newly provided fire support to push the position. Team mates gun down those that got trapped with out reinforcements. Bravo hacked, swarms come in. Ground team has taken up a good defensive position. Pull out of the area and go to outer points. drop blue on the point and stay in area to cover. D hacked, homie jumps back into the dropship move to other outer point gun down all defenders and drop blue again.

Kill a few while blue hacks, E hacked. 3 reds managed to spawn, land in between reds and homie blue taking fire while he gets into the dropship. Lift up and kill all 3 then proceed to city to lay down some much needed cover fire for ground forces at B. Help retain defensive position. D hacked by a red, Fly back out take out red and destroy hostile LAV.

The second we stop giving people a chance to jump into our tanks/dropships/LAV's is the second all those people who say tankers only want to solo, dropships want to be gunships, and LAV's murder taxis are right. Ted you are a veteran tanker, instead of moping you should be educating blues about the power of tanks, if not through experience then through example. Bring two buddies along and show blues how to properly use the guns and mobility of a tank to the teams advantage.

I'm very happy CCP has been spending their time working on actual content and features rather than making people who play rambo tank happy.
I'll still kill your tank with my two gunners and my front gun, and you will wonder why an assault dropship killed you so fast.

I bet we have the option to take off passenger turrets. However I bet there is still a seat for a passenger there. The point is to eliminate blue berrys free riding in my tank. I could care less if that blueberry has a good match cause he got in my tank and walked away from his tv because i will try my best to stay alive because I put my money into the tank. He put nothing and has no care if we die or if the tank survives. I really hope I don't have to let them ride in my tank at all. All this could have been fixed and not even worried about if we could just que in matches with our corp and not even have to deal with playing with scrub blueberrys

I can't believe it, but I'm agreeing with Ted. The seats should be removed with the guns, and if they aren't then half the reason a tanker removes them goes out the window. I'm also of the opinion that the Gunners should be visible and therefore can be shot out of their seats, as the front gunner can occasionally be when you ram an LAV.

I can't believe it, but I'm agreeing with Ted. The seats should be removed with the guns, and if they aren't then half the reason a tanker removes them goes out the window. I'm also of the opinion that the Gunners should be visible and therefore can be shot out of their seats, as the front gunner can occasionally be when you ram an LAV.

I bet we have the option to take off passenger turrets. However I bet there is still a seat for a passenger there. The point is to eliminate blue berrys free riding in my tank. I could care less if that blueberry has a good match cause he got in my tank and walked away from his tv because i will try my best to stay alive because I put my money into the tank. He put nothing and has no care if we die or if the tank survives. I really hope I don't have to let them ride in my tank at all. All this could have been fixed and not even worried about if we could just que in matches with our corp and not even have to deal with playing with scrub blueberrys

WTF ppl actually think its okay to lack vehical locks and seats in tanks? you guys are speds, complete imbeciles

Not only do I think its okay, I think its better. Funny how after I posted a story of how blues can be very useful I got on to fly some pythons. Picked up three blues and did amazing point control. I know they learned to love dropships, though I'm sad that they might try to get in a dropship only to have it be locked.
It takes good pilots to make the vehicle reach its full potential, I will never put a lock on my vehicle. I will instead educate blues about the glory of the dropship.

... screw team support and screw having bluebie turreters ina vehicle they are more of a hindrance by their mere presence than they are a help. logis who use logi lavs for transport av specs as well lose em all the time to theft and thats why u never see me using my logi lav to transport my logi why help the team that hurts me more than the enemy we are fighting.

I bet we have the option to take off passenger turrets. However I bet there is still a seat for a passenger there. The point is to eliminate blue berrys free riding in my tank. I could care less if that blueberry has a good match cause he got in my tank and walked away from his tv because i will try my best to stay alive because I put my money into the tank. He put nothing and has no care if we die or if the tank survives. I really hope I don't have to let them ride in my tank at all. All this could have been fixed and not even worried about if we could just que in matches with our corp and not even have to deal with playing with scrub blueberrys

I bet we have the option to take off passenger turrets. However I bet there is still a seat for a passenger there. The point is to eliminate blue berrys free riding in my tank. I could care less if that blueberry has a good match cause he got in my tank and walked away from his tv because i will try my best to stay alive because I put my money into the tank. He put nothing and has no care if we die or if the tank survives. I really hope I don't have to let them ride in my tank at all. All this could have been fixed and not even worried about if we could just que in matches with our corp and not even have to deal with playing with scrub blueberrys

NO
That blueberry is already in there since I called it in and he has no intention of leaving. He spent ZERO SP, ZERO ISK, and gives ZERO ***** about my tank. Small gunners are nothing but an annoyance currently with the horrible small turret hit detecton and inability to lock your vehicle. The fact that CCP just started looking into locks just made me lose even more faith in their ability to listen to player feedback.

No ... THAT blueberry has just got in your vehicle because he's under fire and low on health and your vehicle happened to be close by.

Random game, good dropship map. Call in my assault dropship. Notice half the team afking in the MCC. Fly up in that bay door and one random jumps in my dropship. Proceed to the nearest hive of reds and give homie a good angle, then pin down most of their team at the clone vat.

small group of soldiers actually fighting uses newly provided fire support to push the position. Team mates gun down those that got trapped with out reinforcements. Bravo hacked, swarms come in. Ground team has taken up a good defensive position. Pull out of the area and go to outer points. drop blue on the point and stay in area to cover. D hacked, homie jumps back into the dropship move to other outer point gun down all defenders and drop blue again.

Kill a few while blue hacks, E hacked. 3 reds managed to spawn, land in between reds and homie blue taking fire while he gets into the dropship. Lift up and kill all 3 then proceed to city to lay down some much needed cover fire for ground forces at B. Help retain defensive position. D hacked by a red, Fly back out take out red and destroy hostile LAV.

The second we stop giving people a chance to jump into our tanks/dropships/LAV's is the second all those people who say tankers only want to solo, dropships want to be gunships, and LAV's murder taxis are right. Ted you are a veteran tanker, instead of moping you should be educating blues about the power of tanks, if not through experience then through example. Bring two buddies along and show blues how to properly use the guns and mobility of a tank to the teams advantage.

I'm very happy CCP has been spending their time working on actual content and features rather than making people who play rambo tank happy.
I'll still kill your tank with my two gunners and my front gun, and you will wonder why an assault dropship killed you so fast.

soo selfish

As a gunnlogi driver the worst thing in the world is when I'm on fire. If a blueberry is in my HAV it means my HAV is already dead.
I get out to rep it because I don't want to lose it. But the turret guy switches seats to take it away. They just took... and went to the enemy camp thinking HAVs are gods because his locus grenade can't damage it. Like the little COD fish he is... It dies in 2 secs because people who only drive LAVs most likely have no concept of mods.

Ok, then I want the tank driver to also be visible and therefore can be shot out of their seats

HAV Pilots requesting vehicle locks, squad locks, etc:

Can you not have builds without the gunner turrets unequipped for scrub pubs?

Like, I have some jerkoff builds that I sacrifice a grenade or sidearm for - just to squeeze in stacked Complex KinCatz and stacked Complex Shields with a GEK.

Not trolling.
Curious.

Locking yes but no to kicking. I think kicking a merc out would lead to farming. A random jumps into an HAV, the pilot drives to their corp mates on the opposite team and kicks them out for free kills.

What's selfish about not wanting idiots taking up spots for squad mates with mics that know how to use the turrets effectively? If some red scrub is next to me firing swarms, and I have an idiot blue berry in my tank, he jumps out and runs away.

I bet we have the option to take off passenger turrets. However I bet there is still a seat for a passenger there. The point is to eliminate blue berrys free riding in my tank. I could care less if that blueberry has a good match cause he got in my tank and walked away from his tv because i will try my best to stay alive because I put my money into the tank. He put nothing and has no care if we die or if the tank survives. I really hope I don't have to let them ride in my tank at all. All this could have been fixed and not even worried about if we could just que in matches with our corp and not even have to deal with playing with scrub blueberrys

LOL

You'll kill MLT tanks like that.

I hate the whole notion that vehicle drivers want to remove their passenger seats. I understand the issue with it, but instead of flat out removing them (which surely every vehicle user would do) why not instead implement some changes that would make it easy for random blueberries to understand what they need to do to be useful as a gunner.

yeah regarding that last part: all developers for some reason fear clan matches like they are the devil. Instead in counless console RPG you end up getting corp squads beating random noobs to a pulp. why that is is beyond me.

All of you tankers are so salty. When I ride shot gun in someones tank I jump out and kill AV infantry when they get too close. Or I ride with a forge gun incase another tank comes up on you.

Not all blue berrys are evil.....

>:D

and not all blue berrys share your point of view on this.... sometimes i see someone get in my tank and the turret he is on never moves

I'm pretty sure they confirmed rider turrets are optional, this is to allow for more interesting fits since that PG is no longer taken up. They never mentioned anything about blueberry fu**s, but I would assume only one person rides in my tank in 1.5.

Do you tank at all? Because if not, you don't know what you're talking about.