Anti-material weapon

The Railgun also has more DPS I believe.

The Forge is an Anti-Materiel weapon. Instead of making an entire vairable for vehicles like we have with headshots, CCP just raised the damage on the Forge because at those numbers it doesn't matter. If the Forge was scaled to half it's output it would STILL OHK a dropsuit, so seeing as it is so far past dropsuit HP it has it's damage scaled to Vehicle HP.

Put simply, the extra damage simulates an armor-piercing principle which the Railgun does not have because it isn't purely designed with an AV focus. If anything, the Railguns need abit of their old splash back as their shape is most likely conducive to shrapnel and shock as opposed to the shear piercing that the Forge has.

If I had to make a 'theoretical balance' thing here, the Forge would need less splash, but more damage to make up for the damage lost in the splash explosion. This would reflect the armor and shield piercing abilities trying to be exemplified by the Forge with its 'unrealistically' large output. The Railgun would need a slightly larger splash, but not as damaging as the splash was before it was nerfed(if any of you are old enough to remember those days). This will assist in exemplifying the unspecialized round structure that the Railgun appears to use, as it does less damage to hard targets but can still indirectly 'blap' infantry. In this way the Forge has a focused anti-armor role and can still 'forgesnipe' people with a steady hand, and the Railgun can have its more anti-infantry role with the large splash doing decent damage and resetting shield recharge times, while still packing enough direct fire damage to be a threat to other tanks.

LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE.

The Forge is an Anti-Materiel weapon. Instead of making an entire vairable for vehicles like we have with headshots, CCP just raised the damage on the Forge because at those numbers it doesn't matter. If the Forge was scaled to half it's output it would STILL OHK a dropsuit, so seeing as it is so far past dropsuit HP it has it's damage scaled to Vehicle HP.

Put simply, the extra damage simulates an armor-piercing principle which the Railgun does not have because it isn't purely designed with an AV focus. If anything, the Railguns need abit of their old splash back as their shape is most likely conducive to shrapnel and shock as opposed to the shear piercing that the Forge has.

If I had to make a 'theoretical balance' thing here, the Forge would need less splash, but more damage to make up for the damage lost in the splash explosion. This would reflect the armor and shield piercing abilities trying to be exemplified by the Forge with its 'unrealistically' large output. The Railgun would need a slightly larger splash, but not as damaging as the splash was before it was nerfed(if any of you are old enough to remember those days). This will assist in exemplifying the unspecialized round structure that the Railgun appears to use, as it does less damage to hard targets but can still indirectly 'blap' infantry. In this way the Forge has a focused anti-armor role and can still 'forgesnipe' people with a steady hand, and the Railgun can have its more anti-infantry role with the large splash doing decent damage and resetting shield recharge times, while still packing enough direct fire damage to be a threat to other tanks.

LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE.

Don't forget the turret has faster fire rate, higher dps (net), unlimited ammo, and its strapped to a 5k ehp tank!!


HOWEVER with a finite ammo supply I believe this will be addressed by buffing turret damage, making more suited to anti vechile then anti vechile weaponary!!

Forge Gun is a small railgun by principle, so both are anti-material weapons. Your argument is invalid.

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Turret does not have a faster fire rate... their is a 2.5 fire intreval and .3 charge time unlike the proto ishyukone Assault which fires in 1.8 seconds.. Also tanks are tuna cans- its a bad thing to be inside a tank because you are more likely to survive to a duvolle in your militia suit than you are to survive in a tank to a foregun and AV nades...

Also the compressed railgun (the good 1) overheats in 3 shots

Also- A forgegunner has a much much much*90 smaller hit box than a tank.

its a bad thing to be inside a tank because you are more likely to survive to a duvolle in your militia suit than you are to survive in a tank to a foregun and AV nades.

Oh really? So you tankers frequently get half a dozen deaths a match?

DPS is a stat that's far too often overlooked.
A railgun can outdps a forge gun.
Also notably, a railgun turret is strapped to a HAV which is much more durable than a heavy.

The real problems are the ranges, allowing forge guns to lock down entire maps for vehicles, and sometimes not even rendering, and the costs, which are excessive for the turrets.

if we aren't using the tanks, if we are, the deaths are halfed

This is such a well put and informative post...but dammit, my dropship needs to live!

True, but that has been said til people are blue in the face. I could also say that it has better accuracy, better refire, more ammo, etc, but these technical points have all been gone over before and we still have people crying for nerfs. I'm trying to explain the mechanics behind the two weapons to maybe enlighten people as to why they work the way they do. I have a 1/100 chance of helping the matter, but if I can just get one person educated via reading this post then I suppose I'll have made the issue a little clearer.

not really the dps on rails is pretty similar to that of current SL and assault forge at 800-850~ w/o dam skills or dam mods. the assault forge actually has slightly more DPS then rails. but with this new buff to the SL it'll have a DPS of around 1400~ to be higher then even proto scattered blasters w/ a 10% damage mod at optimal range.

AUR suit mauler comes w/ a forge gun... nice try bud but no. and the FG used to be a free fit w/ a class i don't remeber its name any more.

AUR suit mauler comes w/ a forge gun... nice try bud but no. and the FG used to be a free fit w/ a class i don't remeber its name any more.

since when are turrets free?

Wait, arent we talking about stationary turrets?

What turrets are YOU talking about?