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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.08.29 06:47:00 -
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hi i am trying to discover all the possible roles (professions, nitchs, etc.) in game. useless or not. currently i have....
vehicle pilot/driver dropship transport ship dessert wasp (or assault dropships) tank rail sniper anti infantry artillery (missiles from a distance(i have seen them be pretty grusome)) LAV mobile rep murder taxis scout ninja knifer assassin (regular ninja knifer) steath demolition (for red lining rail tanks shotty scouts hacker (data miners and typically avoid enemies) distractions (typically sneak up to a group of enemies and hits/runs in front of to get attention then weaves between cover this allowing squadmates to jump a distracted group of enemies) sniper heavy HMG duel role (ie. commando suit) heavy sniper AV forge av nader swarms logi medic spam lords (uplink specialist) hacker (unlike scout hacker they can fend themselves but data miners take up slots) intel (active scanner) assault grenadier (mass driver and/or remote explosive) frontline (assault rifle mortor experts (plasma cannon (i say we just give it its on place as a artillery weapon cause its better as artillery then AV)) assault assistant (primary isn't to kill but weaken enemies and i personally use a laser riffle so that it points to the enemies as well (i assume thi would be difficult for some people))
these are the all the ones i can think of at the moment but i will update this list as more roles are suggested. no mater how crazy ie. distraction scout.
Thank you. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
841
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Posted - 2013.08.29 06:56:00 -
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The list goes on, but it IS finite and I support your efforts...
'distractor' is better termed an 'infiltrator'
hunter - scout with TAR / SCR who picks off stragglers and snipers
flanker - fast suit who specializes in attacking enemy flanks (has long-range, speed, possibly uplinks)
dedicated gunner - for small turrets
force recon support - min logi who runs with stealth squads
"logi" should be broken down into: Camp Support (hives, links) / Heavy Support (core focused reps) / Frontline Support (core rep on 2x assaults) / Demolitions (RE, proxy, hives) / Combat Logi (focused on killing, hives, uplinks)
CQC Specialist / Security - shotgun/sidearm-specialized assaults/scouts
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
841
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Posted - 2013.08.29 06:59:00 -
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sniper can be broken into Redline, Counter, Overwatch and Combat (mobile near the frontlines) variants as well. You mostly see redline and counter, occassionally overwatch, and rarely combat (Kuja is the only one I can think of who was any good at it, and he might disagree with me on the classification) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1421
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Posted - 2013.08.29 06:59:00 -
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Air Cavalry Trooper |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
2103
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:02:00 -
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I can do about 1/3rd of those things....
not sure if I should be proud or disappointed. I kinda wanted to be a jack of all trades. The kind of guy with the ability to adapt to any situation. Looks like I still lack expertise in alot of roles. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
439
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:03:00 -
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I want combat scout, first in,slots an fittings Breach Shotgun with 3 shots Nova knives 3complex shields Active scanner Uplinks or remotes Profile dampened 2x complex kinetics 380 shields 100 armor Flux grenades
Drop a link , hack an poach until the cavliery arrives, then change locations |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
841
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper Good one. And fun :-) |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
841
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:05:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:I want combat scout, first in,slots an fittings Breach Shotgun with 3 shots Nova knives 3complex shields Active scanner Uplinks or remotes Profile dampened 2x complex kinetics 380 shields 100 armor Flux grenades
Drop a link , hack an poach until the cavliery arrives, then change locations I would term this "force recon"...
... for no other reason than it makes sense in my head. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1421
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:15:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper Good one. And fun :-) Its all I ever wanted to do in this game until I saw the Amarrian tank.
But hell a Caldari commando would make and epic drop trooper |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
34
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:37:00 -
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I'm glad distraction scout is a 'thing' - it's not easy to try and explain that role to a new squad.
Though I suspect when strafing is fixed it will become less viable to draw fire from a squad of proto by weaving back and forth around the thin end of a piece of cover.... |
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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
150
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:56:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:The list goes on, but it IS finite and I support your efforts...
'distractor' is better termed an 'infiltrator'
hunter - scout with TAR / SCR who picks off stragglers and snipers
flanker - fast suit who specializes in attacking enemy flanks (has long-range, speed, possibly uplinks)
dedicated gunner - for small turrets
force recon support - min logi who runs with stealth squads
"logi" should be broken down into: Point Support (hives, links... "camp setup") / Heavy Support (core focused reps) / Frontline Support (core rep on 2x assaults) / Demolitions (RE, proxy, hives) / Combat Logi (focused on killing, hives, uplinks)
CQC Specialist / Security - shotgun/sidearm-specialized assaults/scouts
... i considered flanker as a variant of an infiltrator because they both sneak into groups of enemies from what i understand, but flanker has a more kill mindset. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
150
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:57:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:OZAROW wrote:I want combat scout, first in,slots an fittings Breach Shotgun with 3 shots Nova knives 3complex shields Active scanner Uplinks or remotes Profile dampened 2x complex kinetics 380 shields 100 armor Flux grenades
Drop a link , hack an poach until the cavliery arrives, then change locations I would term this "force recon"... ... for no other reason than it makes sense in my head. used both
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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
150
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper i love this one..... however its hard for me to do this with my squadmates cause i have no mic. sadly |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
150
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Posted - 2013.08.29 08:01:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:I'm glad distraction scout is a 'thing' - it's not easy to try and explain that role to a new squad.
Though I suspect when strafing is fixed it will become less viable to draw fire from a squad of proto by weaving back and forth around the thin end of a piece of cover.... thats what i like about you scouts.... paper thin but more ballsy. |
excillon
united we stand x
45
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Posted - 2013.08.29 08:06:00 -
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Please don't say infiltrator. It makes me think of KZ3, where they are frowned upon and known as "crossdressers".
How about "force recon guy"? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1422
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Posted - 2013.08.29 08:07:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper i love this one..... however its hard for me to do this with my squadmates cause i have no mic. sadly If you want to try it some time ill try to piece together the original D6 flight crew if I can find them....
One DS pilot runs a big alliance eve side so we wont get him but the others will probably join in. |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
302
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Posted - 2013.08.29 08:43:00 -
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Ranger - Med suit with close to mid range weapons. Job is to flank and scout mountains and other areas for snipers. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
842
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:46:00 -
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excillon wrote:Please don't say infiltrator. It makes me think of KZ3, where they are frowned upon and known as "crossdressers".
How about "force recon guy"? LOL sorry didn't know the reference. Infiltrator was a stealth class in Dark Age of Camelot waaaaay back in the day, sort of like the dude in Assassin's Creed. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
842
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:55:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:The list goes on, but it IS finite and I support your efforts...
'distractor' is better termed an 'infiltrator'
hunter - scout with TAR / SCR who picks off stragglers and snipers
flanker - fast suit who specializes in attacking enemy flanks (has long-range, speed, possibly uplinks)
dedicated gunner - for small turrets
force recon support - min logi who runs with stealth squads
"logi" should be broken down into: Point Support (hives, links... "camp setup") / Heavy Support (core focused reps) / Frontline Support (core rep on 2x assaults) / Demolitions (RE, proxy, hives) / Combat Logi (focused on killing, hives, uplinks)
CQC Specialist / Security - shotgun/sidearm-specialized assaults/scouts
... i considered flanker as a variant of an infiltrator because they both sneak into groups of enemies from what i understand, but flanker has a more kill mindset. I'd differentiate by saying the flanker 'attacks' the flanks without going INTO the flank. More about delaying tactics, back-hacking, destroying the enemy's rear uplinks, kiting, drawing enemies away from their front line to spread them thin on their front line - and you don't have the 'suicide mission' mindset ... The role is sort of near and dear to my cold cold heart...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=103069&find=unread
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1292
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:01:00 -
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Scrub camper: Heavy with a mass driver who spawns on an elevated uplink. |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1047
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:34:00 -
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My infiltrator is a Minmatar Logistics fit with enhanced stamina, uplinks, active scanner and nano hives. I'm working on maxing out my hacking ability without fitting code breakers. The hives allow me to do some support once we're in. Then I switch to medic on next spawn to hold an objective or two. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
24
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Posted - 2013.08.29 12:54:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper Good one. And fun :-)
Would be nice if you could have a modified uplink that would only work for extraction to vehicles with in a certain range. Example...the std "extraction" uplink would have a 20m radius and the drop ship could do a low flyby and pick you up. Higher tier modules have longer range and more uses. You could have a team of dedicated pilot, 2 gunners, and 4 assaulters that could wreck house in a skirmish match. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
845
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:02:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper Good one. And fun :-) Would be nice if you could have a modified uplink that would only work for extraction to vehicles with in a certain range. Example...the std "extraction" uplink would have a 20m radius and the drop ship could do a low flyby and pick you up. Higher tier modules have longer range and more uses. You could have a team of dedicated pilot, 2 gunners, and 4 assaulters that could wreck house in a skirmish match. Like a module that would be some sort of basket / sling / rope that would extend the sphere in which the "Enter Vehicle" message appears. Actually a really original and awesome idea. Should put it in the feedback forums. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
846
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:09:00 -
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Demolitions - a light/medium frame specializing in destruction of installations utillizing remote explosives.
Sapper - one who uses remote explosives and/or proximity mines to defend friendly positions
Combat Engineer - a non-logistics suit wielding a repair tool. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9
150
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:28:00 -
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Logistic - Explosive expert. (Either use dual RE to secure multiple areas or plant proximity mines)
Also, sniping is not black or white. If you're not field-sniping it doesn't mean you're in the redline. I move A LOT while sniping, but I'm not coming down to the battle anyway. I will counter-snipe and take out assault infantry at the same time. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
26
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:31:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Air Cavalry Trooper Good one. And fun :-) Would be nice if you could have a modified uplink that would only work for extraction to vehicles with in a certain range. Example...the std "extraction" uplink would have a 20m radius and the drop ship could do a low flyby and pick you up. Higher tier modules have longer range and more uses. You could have a team of dedicated pilot, 2 gunners, and 4 assaulters that could wreck house in a skirmish match. Like a module that would be some sort of basket / sling / rope that would extend the sphere in which the "Enter Vehicle" message appears. Actually a really original and awesome idea. Should put it in the feedback forums.
Done.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1235398#post1235398
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
255
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:48:00 -
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I put a scrambler rifle on a scout and call it a marksman, it works well. |
Dale Templar
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
359
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:52:00 -
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'Marksman' NT-511 Sniper Rifle (Specialist Sniper Rifle preferred, but that's officer/unbuyable) Six Kin SMG Caldari Proto Assault
2 x Complex Shield Extenders 2 x Complex Damage Modifiers
1 x Complex Armor Repair 1 x CPU Upgrade 1 x Basic Kinetic Catylizers.
Nanohives.
Close range mother ******* sniper fit. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
151
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:00:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Logistic - Explosive expert. (Either use dual RE to secure multiple areas or plant proximity mines)
Also, sniping is not black or white. If you're not field-sniping it doesn't mean you're in the redline. I move A LOT while sniping, but I'm not coming down to the battle anyway. I will counter-snipe and take out assault infantry at the same time.
the sup categories were there for people who tend to have that certain or general type of play and don't really suit the popular or traditional role. So all in all, i wasn't saying these are the only snipers but these snipers tend to favor more of this type of sniping. So you would just be a sniper since you don't really snipe in close range of the enemy, don't solely snipe enemy snipers, and don't redline the whole match.
also many of these roles can be done by other suits its just that these roles tend to be more popular or better suited to these suit types.
sorry for making it seem black and white. It isn't. and also i would have to repeat many of these roles in many of the categories which just makes a lot more work and a lot more to read for those who are TL;DR (to lazy don't read i think). again I NEVER MEANT FOR THESE TO BE BLACK AND WHITE.
i'll add that this isn't a black and white thing to it. Thank You. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
151
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Posted - 2013.08.29 20:02:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:'Marksman' NT-511 Sniper Rifle (Specialist Sniper Rifle preferred, but that's officer/unbuyable) Six Kin SMG Caldari Proto Assault
2 x Complex Shield Extenders 2 x Complex Damage Modifiers
1 x Complex Armor Repair 1 x CPU Upgrade 1 x Basic Kinetic Catylizers.
Nanohives.
Close range mother ******* sniper fit. This sounds more like a on field/ combat sniper to me. |
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