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Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1002	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:21:00 - [1] - Quote Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 1109	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:38:00 - [2] - Quote Legend will proly find a way to beat it up...although I still feel the pain of tanking....taking out a militia sica is just lol in pubs now, I put in 1 mill sp into vehicles just to see how tough it is for legend and I can def say 1 mill into an advanced minmatar assault and gek would be a better use of sp...tanking without owning the av spots in pc is really tough.
Raymundo Kagestad V Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:44:00 - [3] - Quote God dammit CCP. I'm a tanker in Planetside 2, BF3 and...Any other game that involves tanks. Why is it so gimped here! Fix it! I have faith in you!!
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1412	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:48:00 - [4] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill I want a respec so I can become a tanker!
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 678	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:49:00 - [5] - Quote Dammit CCP! All my other games send me bacon monthly!! Why is there no bacon sent here!! Fix it!! I have faith in you!
Rei Shepard Spectre II 472	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:49:00 - [6] - Quote Raymundo Kagestad V wrote: God dammit CCP. I'm a tanker in Planetside 2, BF3 and...Any other game that involves tanks. Why is it so gimped here! Fix it! I have faith in you!! Not sure how in PS2 its not more gimped, every Assault Infantry there has a secondary weapon that can kill you 1 vs 1 on their backs or at least supress your tank.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3352	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:50:00 - [7] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill I want to be one now more than I did before, even back when I was a dedicated tanker in E3. This is the beginning of the end of this ******** Vehicle vs AV fight.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1084	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:01:00 - [8] - Quote im really considering leaving tanks permanently due to the current public changes that were brought to us... however, 1.5 is still a long ways away... if these things dont change, I will leave tanks forever and just do nothing until the jets come in
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1084	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:02:00 - [9] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill I want to be one now more than I did before, even back when I was a dedicated tanker in E3. This is the beginning of the end of this ******** Vehicle vs AV fight. funny how the real tankers of dust are considering migration to something else while people like you are wanting to go into a dying class
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1301	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:04:00 - [10] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Raymundo Kagestad V wrote: God dammit CCP. I'm a tanker in Planetside 2, BF3 and...Any other game that involves tanks. Why is it so gimped here! Fix it! I have faith in you!! Not sure how in PS2 its not more gimped, every Assault Infantry there has a secondary weapon that can kill you 1 vs 1 on their backs or at least supress your tank. the cooldown and cost is low enough that it barely effects the amount of time i spend in them. so its not really gimped all that bad plus you know you can actually see pretty far unlike here.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1301	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:07:00 - [11] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill I want to be one now more than I did before, even back when I was a dedicated tanker in E3. This is the beginning of the end of this ******** Vehicle vs AV fight. funny how the real tankers of dust are considering migration to something else while people like you are wanting to go into a dying class yea i want a respec of out nerf hammers. just remove vehicles already its clear ccp doesn't know what to do with them or how to balance them.
Billi Gene Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 361	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:07:00 - [12] - Quote Ive split roles over various accounts. logi on my main account pilot secondary account Heavy suit and a spare account just speccing into core drop suit skills. Pilot is up to <5 mil SP into vehicles and its been hard going, hopefully these changes will make it somewhat more fun than licking a toilet bowl...
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 203	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:26:00 - [13] - Quote Personally I still want my alt to be a tanker. I think this will only change the way tanks are used - and for the better. Right now you mount as much passive protection that you can and a booster/repper to repair the damage. I believe they are encouraging us to go something like; Charge in Hit the damage mods and/or Hardeners for the assault Hit the Nitro injectors for the withdraw Hit the boosters/repper to get back HP Sounds ok to me but will reserve judgement till I can try to implement it
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1084	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:27:00 - [14] - Quote ladwar wrote: Void Echo wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill I want to be one now more than I did before, even back when I was a dedicated tanker in E3. This is the beginning of the end of this ******** Vehicle vs AV fight. funny how the real tankers of dust are considering migration to something else while people like you are wanting to go into a dying class yea i want a respec of out nerf hammers. just remove vehicles already its clear ccp doesn't know what to do with them or how to balance them. I find it extremely funny that CCP can successfully create TONS of starships for EVE yet they cant figure out vehicles for dust...
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1302	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:27:00 - [15] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Personally I still want my alt to be a tanker. I think this will only change the way tanks are used - and for the better. Right now you mount as much passive protection that you can and a booster/repper to repair the damage. I believe they are encouraging us to go something like; Charge in Hit the damage mods and/or Hardeners for the assault Hit the Nitro injectors for the withdraw Hit the boosters/repper to get back HP Sounds ok to me but will reserve judgement till I can try to implement it reppers are going to passive only.. or thats what they look like they are doing.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1084	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:29:00 - [16] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Personally I still want my alt to be a tanker. I think this will only change the way tanks are used - and for the better. Right now you mount as much passive protection that you can and a booster/repper to repair the damage. I believe they are encouraging us to go something like; Charge in Hit the damage mods and/or Hardeners for the assault Hit the Nitro injectors for the withdraw Hit the boosters/repper to get back HP Sounds ok to me but will reserve judgement till I can try to implement it I will just redline more, why would I waste 2 minutes in the battle field when il be fine in the mountains?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1302	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:29:00 - [17] - Quote Void Echo wrote: ladwar wrote: Void Echo wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill I want to be one now more than I did before, even back when I was a dedicated tanker in E3. This is the beginning of the end of this ******** Vehicle vs AV fight. funny how the real tankers of dust are considering migration to something else while people like you are wanting to go into a dying class yea i want a respec of out nerf hammers. just remove vehicles already its clear ccp doesn't know what to do with them or how to balance them. I find it extremely funny that CCP can successfully create TONS of starships for EVE yet they cant figure out vehicles for dust... EVE has PVE to make up for short falls in cost vs effectiveness. dust doesn't and that is why vehicles are falling flat on their faces.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1084	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:30:00 - [18] - Quote Billi Gene wrote: Ive split roles over various accounts. logi on my main account pilot secondary account Heavy suit and a spare account just speccing into core drop suit skills. Pilot is up to <5 mil SP into vehicles and its been hard going, hopefully these changes will make it somewhat more fun than licking a toilet bowl... fun for tankers or fun for infantry?
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 100	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:46:00 - [19] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Legend will proly find a way to beat it up...although I still feel the pain of tanking....taking out a militia sica is just lol in pubs now, I put in 1 mill sp into vehicles just to see how tough it is for legend and I can def say 1 mill into an advanced minmatar assault and gek would be a better use of sp...tanking without owning the av spots in pc is really tough. I have also spend 1 mill sp in vehicles, maybe it is 1,5 mill, and have the opposite experience. I have 14mill sp in infantry. I will definitely continue to spend some sp in tanks. But I agree if you only have 1 mill sp I would also recommend to spend it on infantry. My use of tanks is not as a primary weapon but as a support vehicle I can call in when the situation call for it. I have helped turn ambush matches from defeat to victory by calling in my tank mid fight. Not getting many kills, but it helps keep the team together and makes the opposite team respawn with swarm launchers and focus on me instead of the team mates. Maybe if we start look at it as a support tool and not as an invincible death machine it would find a more balanced use. Have skills points in a primary infantry role and use the vehicles for support. I have fun occasionally calling in tanks and dropships, all depending on the match and the opponents. I know very well that my basic equipped madrugar will go down quickly if I encounter a dedicated tanker, it works perfectly against infantry, LAVs and some militia tanks. Cannot speak much of PC, vehicles rarely last long here, too many skilled proto forge gunners and lai dai grenades from what I have seen in the very few PC matches I have participated in. I am from Europe and there is too much lagging playing on US teams vs other US teams, way too many explosions.
demonkiller 12 Seraphim Auxiliaries 138	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:55:00 - [20] - Quote ladwar wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: Personally I still want my alt to be a tanker. I think this will only change the way tanks are used - and for the better. Right now you mount as much passive protection that you can and a booster/repper to repair the damage. I believe they are encouraging us to go something like; Charge in Hit the damage mods and/or Hardeners for the assault Hit the Nitro injectors for the withdraw Hit the boosters/repper to get back HP Sounds ok to me but will reserve judgement till I can try to implement it reppers are going to passive only.. or thats what they look like they are doing. boosters will be instant, reppers will do less per pulse and tank longer to fully use

broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 203	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:59:00 - [21] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: ladwar wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: Personally I still want my alt to be a tanker. I think this will only change the way tanks are used - and for the better. Right now you mount as much passive protection that you can and a booster/repper to repair the damage. I believe they are encouraging us to go something like; Charge in Hit the damage mods and/or Hardeners for the assault Hit the Nitro injectors for the withdraw Hit the boosters/repper to get back HP Sounds ok to me but will reserve judgement till I can try to implement it reppers are going to passive only.. or thats what they look like they are doing. boosters will be instant, reppers will do less per pulse and tank longer to fully use Glad I don't want the Gallente then (or the Caldari incidentally)
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1304	Posted - 2013.08.28 08:05:00 - [22] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: ladwar wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: Personally I still want my alt to be a tanker. I think this will only change the way tanks are used - and for the better. Right now you mount as much passive protection that you can and a booster/repper to repair the damage. I believe they are encouraging us to go something like; Charge in Hit the damage mods and/or Hardeners for the assault Hit the Nitro injectors for the withdraw Hit the boosters/repper to get back HP Sounds ok to me but will reserve judgement till I can try to implement it reppers are going to passive only.. or thats what they look like they are doing. boosters will be instant, reppers will do less per pulse and tank longer to fully use booster have (A) and repairers have (P)... so yea guess what that means? Quote: shield Boosters (A): Instant, emergency use high HP restoration in the heat of battle. Ultra-long cool down times. Last-ditch injection of HP and a kick-start to shield recharge. Armor Repairers (P): Speed up HP recovery outside of combat Used to make running repairs between battles (too slow to be of real use in the heat of battle)
Billi Gene Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 361	Posted - 2013.08.28 08:11:00 - [23] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Billi Gene wrote: Ive split roles over various accounts. logi on my main account pilot secondary account Heavy suit and a spare account just speccing into core drop suit skills. Pilot is up to <5 mil SP into vehicles and its been hard going, hopefully these changes will make it somewhat more fun than licking a toilet bowl... fun for tankers or fun for infantry? fun to tank currently i run a cheaper... 500k sik sica with 'adv' rail gun to make the isk that ill lose when i go into blaster range. blaster: madrugar 3x active resist 120mm plate (?) repper either shield booster or extender i can tank thru alot, my silly sica can even tank thru OB's without a stress, but proto grenade spam and assault FG just wipe me flat. removing the small turrets should free up more cpu/pg for an extra plate on the maddy, and if the active resists are decent ill happily drop the shield tank mods. I already run and gun with the blaster fit, but it does get down to second guessing infantry movements at such a low level of lifetime SP. Railgun is a no brainer, i have a maddy fit for it, but why bother, the sica shield tanks allowing for heat vents and damage mods in the lows, if i get down to 1/4 shields i back off and boost. It's boring as hell rail sniping (fairly much never redline... the angles are all wrong on most maps :P ), but "its a living", and an honest one at that... LLAVs and LAVs are my staple diet unless someone is fool nuff to call in something more expensive...(learnt long ago that calling in a RDV on a match in progress is silly unless you are faaaar back in your redline.. specifically if there is a rail gun tank of tower camping FG somewhere on the map.). so to answer your question: hopefully running tanks is less "making a living" and more "engaging and fun"... for a tanker. I know quite a few AV guys and every time one gets the scent of blood i kinda feel bad for the guy they are chasing, if resists and armor plates/shield extenders get a buff then at least it won't be a turkey shoot. These are my thoughts anyways.... or hopes... or dreams... :) .. see how it goes, i notice that they are rolling out the changes slowly.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 495	Posted - 2013.08.28 08:17:00 - [24] - Quote I will fly high over the MCC, if you want to battle with me just bring your ADS up there. I don't know why they are doing the exact contrary of what we have asked for long long time.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 54	Posted - 2013.08.28 09:22:00 - [25] - Quote im not sure i want to play DUST anymore. its harder to get corpmates online now more than ever. 1.5 seems stupid and i think it will be deployed too late. i will have my hands full with GTA 5 by then, n also fall gaming season is around the corner with BF4 and next gen consoles is DUST really here for the long run?
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1035	Posted - 2013.08.28 09:32:00 - [26] - Quote Anyone actually seen any numbers yet... -------------------------------------
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 98	Posted - 2013.08.28 09:45:00 - [27] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: Anyone actually seen any numbers yet... This is why it's dumb to get upset over proposed changes. You people have no idea what is planned. I'll give you a hint though. AV has changes to numbers in 1.4. Those changes are likely to be in line with how vehicles are to be changed in 1.5. If you must speculate, use those numbers and theorycraft from there.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1036	Posted - 2013.08.28 09:49:00 - [28] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: ChromeBreaker wrote: Anyone actually seen any numbers yet... This is why it's dumb to get upset over proposed changes. You people have no idea what is planned. I'll give you a hint though. AV has changes to numbers in 1.4. Those changes are likely to be in line with how vehicles are to be changed in 1.5. If you must speculate, use those numbers and theorycraft from there. i was going to say that... ah well saves the typing i suppose
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 717	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:29:00 - [29] - Quote I think we should wait and see what the acctual numbers are before we all panic. Ill still be holding up the front with my gunlogi regardles of what they do. I guess weel just have to . Improvise adapt and overcome what ever they throw at us.
Anmol Singh the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 301	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:32:00 - [30] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Their not all there so its very hard to say. But so far i say no, i dont like how the active resist is going to be really short in life span and how passive resist is going to be so low. Too easy to kill i see 1.5, if i dont like shield tank recharge delay, ill quit...



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