DUST Search - refund vehie and AV sp

Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:

Xender17 wrote:

Chunky Munkey wrote:

Cy Clone1 wrote:

Chunky Munkey wrote:

Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it.

Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec.

that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time

"Entirely opposite to its description"? So tanks are becoming very cheap and will have low hp now?

No, they're still going to be tanks, and as a result, those who skilled into tanks because they were tanks have no grounds for a respec.

From HAV and DS perspectives they are putting an incredibly gigantic change on vehicles. The only thing good for vehicles that's coming is removing required small turrets. Everything else about 1.5 is a nerf.
They are changing everything we were told we would be when we specced into HAVs.

More powerful turrets is a nerf?

Oh and BTW what Wolfman wrote are NOT THE PATCH NOTES

So before anyone throws a hissy fit calm down.

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Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven 1192	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:46:00 - [1] - Quote Sounds like a major change to the skill tree is coming. I want these points refunded.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 42	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:48:00 - [2] - Quote refunded so u can spec into what? i want that sagaris back. Only tank worthy of PC
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1265	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:50:00 - [3] - Quote Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it.
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven 1196	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:52:00 - [4] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. The skill tree got changed. I didn't skill into the same thing, now. This isn't a nerf or a buff it's a complete redesign.
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 123	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:53:00 - [5] - Quote but it's something totally different nao
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 152	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:54:00 - [6] - Quote I feel like a vehicle respec is definitely in order (if the skill tree is changed). Not so sure about your AV though. Seems if anything, it is better than what you specced into, not worse.
demonkiller 12 Seraphim Auxiliaries 137	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:58:00 - [7] - Quote i was discussing this earlier, ANY time CCP completely changes a skill (not % stuff but the actual skill) like the HMG skill, you should get ALL sp back for it because you NEVER skill into that, you skill into something different and THEY moved your SP In relation to the HMG skill, sure its cool for most of you, and why would i want the SP when it allows me to use better HMGs - i only use standard fits, and the current skill is much better for me than recoil reduction because im not a complete **** that cant aim
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 45	Posted - 2013.08.27 18:58:00 - [8] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: I feel like a vehicle respec is definitely in order (if the skill tree is changed). Not so sure about your AV though. Seems if anything, it is better than what you specced into, not worse. AV getting small tweak thats all.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 241	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:00:00 - [9] - Quote charlollta lets talk sexy
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2972	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:00:00 - [10] - Quote Only if you'll refund the amount of life I've spent reading through your pile of garbage threads.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 362	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:03:00 - [11] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Only if you'll refund the amount of life I've spent reading through your pile of garbage threads. can i get an amen. also: no respecs. ever.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1266	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:03:00 - [12] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. The skill tree got changed. I didn't skill into the same thing, now. This isn't a nerf or a buff it's a complete redesign. If there are different skills introduced, then they'll have no choice but to refund previous vehicle skills. Changing various bonuses and/or the functionality of certain items however, is simply another rebalance. No different than those done for suits and weapons. And pleas for a respec will be just as successful as those were. This incessant whine from people who are afraid that they will no longer be able to rely on their crutch is just entitled crap, and it makes me lose what little faith I have for the future of this game.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 45	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:05:00 - [13] - Quote SAGARIS!
Cosgar ParagonX 4583	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:09:00 - [14] - Quote This might actually warrant a respec if they have to make changes to the skill tree. But I hope this doesn't wind up as a situation where they try to keep the skills the same just to avoid respecs when a complete rework would produce better results.
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven 1201	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:10:00 - [15] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. The skill tree got changed. I didn't skill into the same thing, now. This isn't a nerf or a buff it's a complete redesign. If there are different skills introduced, then they'll have no choice but to refund previous vehicle skills. Changing various bonuses and/or the functionality of certain items however, is simply another rebalance. No different than those done for suits and weapons. And pleas for a respec will be just as successful as those were. This incessant whine from people who are afraid that they will no longer be able to rely on their crutch is just entitled crap, and it makes me lose what little faith I have for the future of this game. Crutch? Tanking is about as easy as running a gallente assault in 1.2 Chrome was just right. The bad and average tankers died instantly but the good ones were gods
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1584	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:13:00 - [16] - Quote NO they can't do a refund untill they release ALL THE TANK ALL THE LAVS ALL THE DROPSHIPS a:SKfhalkjgfa;ksjfh aspgiha'oij ;owj k
Cy Clone1 Intara Direct Action Caldari State 245	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:13:00 - [17] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec. that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven 1201	Posted - 2013.08.27 19:17:00 - [18] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec. that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time Same
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1269	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:28:00 - [19] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec. that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time "Entirely opposite to its description"? So tanks are becoming very cheap and will have low hp now? No, they're still going to be tanks, and as a result, those who skilled into tanks because they were tanks have no grounds for a respec.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 495	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:35:00 - [20] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec. that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time "Entirely opposite to its description"? So tanks are becoming very cheap and will have low hp now? No, they're still going to be tanks, and as a result, those who skilled into tanks because they were tanks have no grounds for a respec. From HAV and DS perspectives they are putting an incredibly gigantic change on vehicles. The only thing good for vehicles that's coming is removing required small turrets. Everything else about 1.5 is a nerf. They are changing everything we were told we would be when we specced into HAVs.
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:39:00 - [21] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec. that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time "Entirely opposite to its description"? So tanks are becoming very cheap and will have low hp now? No, they're still going to be tanks, and as a result, those who skilled into tanks because they were tanks have no grounds for a respec. From HAV and DS perspectives they are putting an incredibly gigantic change on vehicles. The only thing good for vehicles that's coming is removing required small turrets. Everything else about 1.5 is a nerf. They are changing everything we were told we would be when we specced into HAVs. More powerful turrets is a nerf? Oh and BTW what Wolfman wrote are NOT THE PATCH NOTES So before anyone throws a hissy fit calm down.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 495	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:43:00 - [22] - Quote Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: Xender17 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. Its a complete rework, its not like they are swapping a few numbers! Example: say you speced into ars, then ccp said we are doing a complete rework they will now work entirely opposite to its description. That's deserving of a respec. that being said ill still spec into tanks I just wont get every single vehicle in the game this time "Entirely opposite to its description"? So tanks are becoming very cheap and will have low hp now? No, they're still going to be tanks, and as a result, those who skilled into tanks because they were tanks have no grounds for a respec. From HAV and DS perspectives they are putting an incredibly gigantic change on vehicles. The only thing good for vehicles that's coming is removing required small turrets. Everything else about 1.5 is a nerf. They are changing everything we were told we would be when we specced into HAVs. More powerful turrets is a nerf? Oh and BTW what Wolfman wrote are NOT THE PATCH NOTES So before anyone throws a hissy fit calm down. No, finite ammo is a nerf. Oh btw don't act like you know what the patch even means. Theres no need to be an d-bag.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1299	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:43:00 - [23] - Quote i want a respect now... i been against respects because its been slight changes but this is big.
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:46:00 - [24] - Quote ladwar wrote: i want a respect now... i been against respects because its been slight changes but this is big. I'd be fine with a respec should the skill tree change as much as every here believes, but right now we don't know the extent of the changes.
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 298	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:47:00 - [25] - Quote Xender17 wrote: No, finite ammo is a nerf. Oh btw don't act like you know what the patch even means. Theres no need to be an d-bag. Finite ammo was necessary. The point I was making is YES I don't know what the patch means but neither do you. So stop acting like the sky is falling down and wait for the actual Patch Notes to come out before you request a respec.
captain erection RhymeSayers 4	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:48:00 - [26] - Quote how about your bwanky and pacifier back? cry baby
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1339	Posted - 2013.08.27 20:51:00 - [27] - Quote The only reason I say no to this is because they are likely to issue out another repsec in the next major expansion (post-Uprising) which many are expecting (read: hoping) to include the remaining core content (racial heavies and lights, Minmatar and Amarr vehicles, Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle). I wouldn't want them to give out a respec now only to give out another at that point, rather we just all sit tight until there the perfect opportunity for a final respec presents itself.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 501	Posted - 2013.08.27 21:00:00 - [28] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Oh give it a fuckin' rest. You skilled into something. You're keeping it. There's a difference between wanting a respec to change into the next flavor of the month, and wanting a respec because skills are going to be changed. We lost the 5% PG per level in the skill, and it got changed to reduction in CPU consumption by 5% per level. Not the same, don't you think? Instead of gaining shield/armor per level, we got 2% resistance per level. We lost turret proficiency for more damage per level.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 365	Posted - 2013.08.27 21:02:00 - [29] - Quote I want a respect cos nobody respects me :-(
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 50	Posted - 2013.08.27 21:07:00 - [30] - Quote LOL, funny. You will obviously get a respec like with the dropsuit changes, as they intend on removing loads of the current stuff and rebuilding it and re-implementing it over time. This would suggest some of the current skills will be absent for at least a while, necessitating a respec. 'Vehicles in 1.5 and beyond!' forum post by CCP Eterne... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=http%3a%2f%2fwww.community.us.playstation.com%2ft5%2fDUST-514%2fVehicles-in-1-5-and-beyond%2fm-p%2f41437369%2fhighlight%2ffalse%23M3811&domain=www.community.us.playstation.com

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