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Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 980	Posted - 2013.08.27 04:40:00 - [61] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Based on what I have seen it would NOT surprise me if they refund all skill points allotted to vehicles. The lot of you should already know I am against most respecs but this is the scenario where I feel it's warranted for vehicle specific skills. Team Kong will post soon enough just some things are beginning to muddle their work load including the melee bug. tytytyty <3
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7769	Posted - 2013.08.27 04:49:00 - [62] - Quote Well... its not saying they will respec but its drastic enough that if we do see the specific changes it may prompt asking for it and getting agreed with.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 980	Posted - 2013.08.27 04:53:00 - [63] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well... its not saying they will respec but its drastic enough that if we do see the specific changes it may prompt asking for it and getting agreed with. Sweet. If the devs follow through what theyve been promising it will be respec worthy and i am confident 1.5 will warrent a respec with how productive it will be. Call me optimistic, but im expecting great things from 1.5
LCB Holdings Expert Intervention Caldari State 13	Posted - 2013.08.27 04:56:00 - [64] - Quote Respec for people that have most of their points in vehicles would make sense but it would be unfair for those that didn't spec'd into vehicles considering the changes might make vehicles interesting for players that previously weighted the pros and cons of specialization into the latter.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1009	Posted - 2013.08.27 05:01:00 - [65] - Quote respec for me, you can have a cookie
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 983	Posted - 2013.08.27 05:03:00 - [66] - Quote LCB Holdings wrote: Respec for people that have most of their points in vehicles would make sense but it would be unfair for those that didn't spec'd into vehicles considering the changes might make vehicles interesting for players that previously weighted the pros and cons of specialization into the latter. agree
Spectral Clone the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 211	Posted - 2013.08.27 05:15:00 - [67] - Quote LCB Holdings wrote: Respec for people that have most of their points in vehicles would make sense but it would be unfair for those that didn't spec'd into vehicles considering the changes might make vehicles interesting for players that previously weighted the pros and cons of specialization into the latter. Considering how the last optional respec execution from CCP, I really think they could save time by refunding all sp for everyone. Cant believe how much work doing individual respecs was. Its all about corporate efficiency.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 492	Posted - 2013.08.27 06:24:00 - [68] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well... its not saying they will respec but its drastic enough that if we do see the specific changes it may prompt asking for it and getting agreed with. Make sure it's stickied.
Nguruthos IX Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 1158	Posted - 2013.08.27 06:25:00 - [69] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: LCB Holdings wrote: Respec for people that have most of their points in vehicles would make sense but it would be unfair for those that didn't spec'd into vehicles considering the changes might make vehicles interesting for players that previously weighted the pros and cons of specialization into the latter. Considering how the last optional respec execution from CCP, I really think they could save time by refunding all sp for everyone. Cant believe how much work doing individual respecs was. Its all about corporate efficiency. Or they could, you know, set up a proper system to do it better. An in game-client option for optional respec. Checks user's character name Checks if skills were in the items that got changed before X date. If so reallocate however many of those skills or all of them, or whatever to the player. Done. If the in client option would take too long with sony QA then use some other verified login like this forum. Pipe it through there.
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 408	Posted - 2013.08.27 06:58:00 - [70] - Quote simple way to do it, give everyone an optional respec with the release of every new build from here on out, but give the ones that chooses not to some exclusive Dropsuits. Best of both worlds, satisfying OCD FPS players and rewarding "loyal" players

Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 38	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:01:00 - [71] - Quote i want confirmation that CCP is listening to the feedback regarding AV and vehicles, sagaris shall return
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 988	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:06:00 - [72] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: i want confirmation that CCP is listening to the feedback regarding AV and vehicles, sagaris shall return ask and you shall receive! CCP Logibro wrote: Thanks for the threads, I'll go through them and pass them on. If you're looking to attract CCP Wolfman's attention in the future, I suggest laying out honeyed lamb as a suitable bait. From my AV collection thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104265
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 637	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:09:00 - [73] - Quote It seems like the only people who want respecs are the FOTM users.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 38	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:14:00 - [74] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: It seems like the only people who want respecs are the FOTM users. tanks are currently in their darkest age....
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 492	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:19:00 - [75] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: It seems like the only people who want respecs are the FOTM users. tanks are currently in their darkest age.... No, that happens the day 1.4 comes out.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 492	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:20:00 - [76] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: i want confirmation that CCP is listening to the feedback regarding AV and vehicles, sagaris shall return I'd love to finally get the chance to pilot the Sagaris and Surya. Like an Air Force pilot wanting to be a space shuttle pilot.
demonkiller 12 Seraphim Auxiliaries 130	Posted - 2013.08.27 07:21:00 - [77] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: unfortunately for you my fellow driver, I am completely against all kinds of respecs, whether we even have tanks tomorrow or not. decisions have consequences and respecs only extend imbalances for a couple more months until people can spread sp out again. I dont think you understand, say i put 1.5mil sp into powergrid upgrades for my suit (+25% PG on all suits) if that skill were then to become (-25% cpu cost of PG upgrade) lol vehicle skills) then i did not put skill points into that skill, they took my skill and put it into another, you should then get skill points back ONLY in the case of the changing a skill not the % -/+ should you get back SP ie HMG/Scrambler riffle skills
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1015	Posted - 2013.08.27 08:47:00 - [78] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: unfortunately for you my fellow driver, I am completely against all kinds of respecs, whether we even have tanks tomorrow or not. decisions have consequences and respecs only extend imbalances for a couple more months until people can spread sp out again. I dont think you understand, say i put 1.5mil sp into powergrid upgrades for my suit (+25% PG on all suits) if that skill were then to become (-25% cpu cost of PG upgrade) lol vehicle skills) then i did not put skill points into that skill, they took my skill and put it into another, you should then get skill points back ONLY in the case of the changing a skill not the % -/+ should you get back SP ie HMG/Scrambler riffle skills i think i understand perfectly well. we got screwed. i still dont think we should get a respec as of right now. after 1.5 we shall see.
Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 87	Posted - 2013.08.27 08:53:00 - [79] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Were getting the entire table switched with everything "being built from the ground up" So will all our vehical and AV skills be refunded back to us? if its all being completly redone in most aspects id imagine those players who have SP invested into them would be allowed to reallocate them, because some tank weapons, hulls, and mods, and infantry AV means that are effective now may not be effective after the patch You say it yourself, "effective". As long as you have that mindset, you will always be asking for re-specs. The idea is that you pick what you want to play, not what is effective. As long as a skill does what it says on the tin, it's all fair game. If a vehicle or skill is ever removed from the game, then of course we should be reimbursed for the skills involved. But barring that, there is just no necessity for a re-spec.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 562	Posted - 2013.08.27 09:37:00 - [80] - Quote the only reason skills are re-imbursed in eve is if the skill itself is changed not when what it unlocks is changed but the skill itself. so its very likely that if the rebalance includes changes to skills, then you will see some points back. the same thing happens everytime they change the skill modifyer on skills aka everyone who has points spend in reload speed will get points back when its changed from a 6x to a 3x modifyer (although in that case it may just be the difference refunded)

Rynoceros Rise of Old Dudes 578	Posted - 2013.08.27 09:45:00 - [81] - Quote Until ALL basic content is implemented and relatively balanced, respecs shouldn't even be a debate.
Ninjanomyx TeamPlayers EoN. 275	Posted - 2013.08.27 10:15:00 - [82] - Quote 1 Full Respec to ALL, on or slightly after 1.5, would be sufficient.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2444	Posted - 2013.08.27 10:24:00 - [83] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: No. CCP wants you to live with the consequences of their actions. Respecs would undermine that. /thread
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1008	Posted - 2013.08.31 19:52:00 - [84] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: 1 Full Respec to ALL, on or slightly after 1.5, would be sufficient. i like this idea too, but ppl who are not involved with using or killing vehicals dont deserve a 1.5 respec
Pvt Numnutz Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 158	Posted - 2013.08.31 20:24:00 - [85] - Quote Give it a rest! With all the time people have spent asking for respecs, they could spec into what ever they wanted anyway. Stop bitching
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 511	Posted - 2013.08.31 20:28:00 - [86] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: No. CCP wants you to live with the consequences of their actions. Respecs would undermine that. /thread I doubt thats what they want. That just how it is. They want to avoid respecs because of the effect they can have on things that are newly OP or AV.
Arc-08 Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 43	Posted - 2013.08.31 20:31:00 - [87] - Quote so youre saying that you want all your AV weapons refunded, because vehicles are getting fixed and won't blow up as easily. basicly, forge gun isn't the flavor of the month anymore so you don't want to have it anymore. I'm totally for this, CCP listen to him, let all the AV guys get respecs so that nobody will have swarms or forge guns anymore, and tanks can roam around free of any AV whatsoever because nobody wanted swarms with longer lock on times, by like 2 seconds extra. heck it would be great for my dropship if there were only like 5 forge gunners in the whole game :D good idea! thank you


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