Sounds about right, I don't see the problem, all the statements mentioned here seem to be correct and in order

Couple of things. The first CoD was a good game when it came out.

The complaint about CoD is that it has not changed with each release but obviously it has improving game play and graphics with each release and the addition of content.

Yet somehow Dust 514 which copied CoD's lobby shooter game play will be different because it will not have episodic improved releases and will literally be the same game in the same universe with the same characters we have now 10 years from now.

And Dust will be iterated upon just as EvE has. Eventually there will be every kind of vehicle, suit and weapon possible. Larger and more varied maps. More planets to fight on then anyone can count. Each with it's own varied terrain of hills, valleys, crevices, and mountains. Fully explorable buildings with multiple rooms and hallways. Along with various different changes to game play possibilities. Having it set up the way it is now is just easiest to work with. Rome wasn't built in a day and while CCP does have some developers that worked for DICE and a few other companies that had a hand in making BF and COD variants the vast majority of CCPs people have probably never made a FPS. Also they're working with unfamiliar code since they have both a mix of Carbon and Unreal being used.

And Dust will be iterated upon just as EvE has.

That is my point. They very thing CCP fan boys criticize CoD for is the same thing they praise Dust for....of course the CoD developers have actually executed those "iterations" while CCP with Dust has not....They are being praised for stuff they may or may not do in some unknown future time span.

I'm not a CoD fan by any stretch of the imagination... but how can you bash CoD when you're playing DUST?

CoD sold billions.... how many people still play DUST?

Claims CoD is the same game it has been forever...

then claims Dust 514 will be so much better 10 years from now.

Iterated on by adding new maps, graphics and effects yes. But, those developer companies also sell their product at 60plus dollars an iteration. And you end up with a new one every what, 6 to 8 months. Hell, by the time they get a new one out they already have announced the one that's replacing it. That's not including all the DLC map packs they throw in to boot that you pay another 30 or 40 dollars for each in between. Of course those companies are also sickeningly rich, and have several thousand people working for them. CCP has less then 300 developers between all their projects, and they can somehow afford to not only not charge for the game, but give out free expansions and iterations on top of that. And when was the last time any game company that has made BF or COD games ever asked for advice or even added players' ideas to their games???

That is my point. They very thing CCP fan boys criticize CoD for is the same thing they praise Dust for....of course the CoD developers have actually executed those "iterations" while CCP with Dust has not....They are being praised for stuff they may or may not do in some unknown future time span.

You have gone way off subject.

This thread is about stomping on fan boys and their idiocy. Not about CCP.

Now i am not talking about people who play dust and enjoy it...those are not fan boys. I am talking about the people who every time you talk about Dust as it actually is they thread jack the discussion and spew BS about CoD clones and 10 years and a whole host of crap about how one day dust will be great.

These people, these fan boys need to be stomped out of the forums and shut up.

Note: CCP can be blamed for much of this. They stated half the crap Fan boys spew day in and day out. Still what they say is simply advertizing. They have to do it. It is part of making and selling a product. One should be able to rationally parse that out of discussions...not repeat it over and over as if it is an argument or remotely a valid point.

COD is pretty much the same...? I'm pretty sure that's the selling point. It's the Madden of FPSers. You get essentially the same game every year with small improvements. Consumers know what to expect-- a small iteration on the same game.

I'm just going off of how well EvE has done. It was a horrible piece of crap when it came out. Now it's quite successful as a niche game. CCP has yet to ever completely throw anything away. I don't expect to see them do that to this. But, of course console gamers are fickle things. They have the attention spans of small children for the most part. So, no surprise that most of you will leave and I say good riddance. The problem we have is the slugs like you who continue to come and post that the game sucks and you're leaving. Instead of posting, how about just leave. If I thought it was crap I'd have left and not posted anything. But I guess some people just like to blab because they love hearing themselves talk.

I'm just going off of how well EvE has done. It was a horrible piece of crap when it came out. Now it's quite successful as a niche game.

But, of course console gamers are fickle things. They have the attention spans of small children for the most part.

/facepalm

You do realize you just regurgitated CCPs ad campaign for Dust and tried to pass it off as a real argument right?

Actually, being that I am a dedicated Eve Online player who has been playing for almost 6 years and have done almost everything from piracy, to mining, to wormholes, to market trading, to null-sec warfare, and stuff, the claim that Eve Online started out as crap and worked its way to become one of the best games out there is not a regurgitated ad campaign. It's real and it happened exactly as people say it did.

I was there.

I was there

The reason why this makes more sense than you ever could imagine, is that arguably this game gets better and better with more content added nearly every update. While your "AAA" shooters get nothing but small bug fixes and an overpriced map pack. Then you wait a year or 3 for a new game that adds the same amount of new content we will get in Dust after two months.

Think of it this way, look at how different CoD was from the most recent release around the time beta started to now and the difference of Dust in the same time frame.

Much much more improvement on the Dust side of things.

COD is pretty much the same...? I'm pretty sure that's the selling point. It's the Madden of FPSers. You get essentially the same game every year with small improvements. Consumers know what to expect-- a small iteration on the same game.

That is my point. They very thing CCP fan boys criticize CoD for is the same thing they praise Dust for....of course the CoD developers have actually executed those "iterations" while CCP with Dust has not....They are being praised for stuff they may or may not do in some unknown future time span.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSxSyv4LC1c

OMFG!

You sir are a CCP billboard.

Claims CoD is the same game it has been forever...

then claims Dust 514 will be so much better 10 years from now.