No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

FGs are fine...but dropships need a buff badly.

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

Been a fat suit since day one of my dust fun. the forge should not be able to hit drop suits with the same high damage meant for killing heavy vehicles.and the fact that there is a militia variant that can still one shot any drop suit is crazy.the only two options i see is either simply make the forge only able to shoot when aimed at a vehicle or some how make the dmg done to drop suits significantly less/ the splash radius smaller. Either way a forge gu needs to be AV oriented an its not anymore. One militia forge gun rules the map when up high with a nano hive just poping suits

As a pilot....

I have to agree with you. Should FGs be a one hit kill on my multimillion ISK craft? HELL NO! But we NEED the forge guns, or packs of LAVs and tanks will feed on us all. I say make it like the AV grenades and null any damage to infantry.

FG DO NOT one hit a MULTIMILLION ISK craft. Thats a Lie. Not even a Breach one,unless you are running MLT dropship,which is NOT a multimillion ISK craft >..>

Plus Those Dropships move insanely fast, so much that can outrun swarms. If someone actually HITs you with a FG then is because you are not flying properly. Using a FG , specially an assault one to hit a moving Dropship is NO easy task plus it leaves you vulnerable for a long time.

Dropships DO need a buff i agree. BUT the whining of sucky pilots is also annoying me.I Suck at flying but the brief time i was with Seraphim initiative i flew with a Dropship pilot that ACTUALLY knew what he was doing. He got hit by 1 Proto AV weapon and in a matter of 3 seconds he was already so far away that not even a sniper could have hit him. He knew how to fly and abused the SPEED of the craft.
This is what dropship pilots DONT do that need to learn how to do. because, LOL im sorry if you are just floating over a pillar all static, of course you are gonna get r4ped by FGs if you stay still for more than 5 seconds. Pfft...

Git good

And nullifying damage to infantry on FG? are you insane? its what makes the FG better than swarms in a way. Plus they already have the enormous handicap of being a heavy only weapon, so no.

''Ignore the trollbate Galm... Just ignore it.... Maybe it will go away....

>folds hands

Maybe for you "heavies" (air quotations with hands) or as we call you "assholes" (air quotations) think all there is to spending money is shield tanking our craft. I don't think you get that we put money in damage modifiers, thrust enhances, and electronic support because you "heavies" only have to worry about spending money on tanking. I don't think you get that it doesn't matter how well I fly or maneuver, because now a one ton forge gun can apparently track faster than a blaster on a swivel pod.

In other words... You know nothing... So shut up.''

The one that seems to be clue less is YOU.
It seems you think running heavy is an easy task.
Shooting down a Dropship is an easy task.
So yeah YOU know nothing. Of course bad pilots make out jobs a lot easier.
I already admitted that Dropships are Under-powered.
But you people cant admit you are flying them WRONG.
You are not supposed to be hovering over an objective shooting at everything with impunity. You attack,drop troops and GT*O.
Im not going anywhere , i specialize on shutting up Vehicle pilots and tankers who whine more than necessary. (specially lately, that everything i see is Vehicle users saying FG are OP and tanks UP, and Mass driver vs AR nerf petitions...so yeah)

Ohhhhhohhoh you really have no idea. If anything I am in a constant strafing run to avoid forge guns. But with the turret drop offs the only way you can cause any amount of damage is by leveling out for a good three seconds, only for an Assault FG to wipe me out.

You are looking at the guy who runs afterburners and dual Jovian powerplants, I don't hover.

...nor know how to fly either it seems.(i mean if you really get killed that much by FGs)

FG needs
1st. To be almost stationary
2nd: To calculate distance , since believe it or not the FG has a Traveling time that varies depending of distance.
3rd: Get good positioning, since GOOD dropship pilots usually hide behind buildings after they get shot once
4th: Being covered by some teammates so that you dont get ravaged while trying to shoot a Dropship down.

I know as a fact a good pilot can help his 2 gunners go 30+ to zero and die ZERO times.
I also know as a fact Dropships need some love.
I also now People always want the easier way to get things done, there by we have people who just whine just because they have internet and can....

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

[quote=KING CHECKMATE][quote=Galm Fae][quote=KING CHECKMATE]
''Ignore the trollbate Galm... Just ignore it.... Maybe it will go away....



Maybe for you "heavies" (air quotations with hands) or as we call you "assholes" (air quotations) think all there is to spending money is shield tanking our craft. I don't think you get that we put money in damage modifiers, thrust enhances, and electronic support because you "heavies" only have to worry about spending money on tanking. I don't think you get that it doesn't matter how well I fly or maneuver, because now a one ton forge gun can apparently track faster than a blaster on a swivel pod.



I could see you opposing me if this was just one small issue in an otherwise perfect world for pilots, but time and time again CCP has thrown us under the bus and sided with your fat-suits. Based on the fact that you aren't REALLY discrediting my points, but instead just insulting my piloting skills, I am not going to even pay attention to you anymore.

i could say that maybe some people are getting toooo accurate with forge guns, maybe like just a little eannie tiny little nerf to the speed that a forge gun moves.

but yes i feel your pain as a fellow dropship pilot, and i know that it is just that dropships are so weak, it isn't the forge gun that needs the nerf it's the dropship that needs a MAJOR buff, in a few areas.

Most forgers are going to hate me for this, but I think their optimal range needs to be decreased. Sure, it's a railgun, but it is HANDHELD. Even small railguns, which are the size of FGs, are completely outperformed by FGs.

Also, I think there should be deviation on every shot, like there used to be. How can you hipfire and hit a dime every single time from afar? Sniper rifles don't have pinpoint hipfire accuracy. The HMG doesn't have pinpoint hipfire accuracy. So why should the FG? I think reintroducing shot deviation would fix so many problems, and the range nerf won't be needed. Forge sniping will become unreliable, which is the greatest problem. Now the risk increases with the reward... being able to place more accurate shots will need to place you into greater danger. Being able to hit a dime from a tower at max range as it is right now is stupid.

You think CCP has sided with Heavies time and time again what in the F**K are you smoking Until 1.4 we had the slowest speed (still do just not as slow) Slowest Turn Speed and can only armor tank which apparently Freaking everything does great damage against.

Does it need a Tone down maybe but a good Forge Gunner should scare you and by the way I have never seen a Drop Ship Killed by one round from a forge gun.

And for the record we spend a **** tone of ISK and SP just to get to the heavy suit and make it survivable. As a dedicated heavy I have had to max Armor Upgrade and Shield Upgrade plus Max Armor plating, Core Suit Upgrades, Level 5 in weapons Most of which and yourself included Possibly puts 2 or 3 into it so you can use the AR or what ever.


Now as for the Blaster on a Swivel pod If you mean the ship mounted there are many factors in that if you mean the blaster cannon Mounted Guns have always been slower then hand held.

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper

Really, this is still going?

Anyone blasted him to itty bitty pieces yet?

He is probably one of the dropships i have shot down a few times. But i generally use my breach FG when i know there is armor on the field. Packs more punch per shot.

lol, tears.

I'm not even a forge gunner, I still think this is hilarious.

No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range.

either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f***ing smash them with a nerf bat.

I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f***ing 1.3m isk.

rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_-

reaper