DUST Search - Remove Forge Guns ... NOW

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Galm Fae wrote:

NoxMort3m wrote:

Been a fat suit since day one of my dust fun. the forge should not be able to hit drop suits with the same high damage meant for killing heavy vehicles.and the fact that there is a militia variant that can still one shot any drop suit is crazy.the only two options i see is either simply make the forge only able to shoot when aimed at a vehicle or some how make the dmg done to drop suits significantly less/ the splash radius smaller. Either way a forge gu needs to be AV oriented an its not anymore. One militia forge gun rules the map when up high with a nano hive just poping suits

As a pilot....

I have to agree with you. Should FGs be a one hit kill on my multimillion ISK craft? HELL NO! But we NEED the forge guns, or packs of LAVs and tanks will feed on us all. I say make it like the AV grenades and null any damage to infantry.

FG DO NOT one hit a MULTIMILLION ISK craft. Thats a Lie. Not even a Breach one,unless you are running MLT dropship,which is NOT a multimillion ISK craft >..>

Plus Those Dropships move insanely fast, so much that can outrun swarms. If someone actually HITs you with a FG then is because you are not flying properly. Using a FG , specially an assault one to hit a moving Dropship is NO easy task plus it leaves you vulnerable for a long time.

Dropships DO need a buff i agree. BUT the whining of sucky pilots is also annoying me.I Suck at flying but the brief time i was with Seraphim initiative i flew with a Dropship pilot that ACTUALLY knew what he was doing. He got hit by 1 Proto AV weapon and in a matter of 3 seconds he was already so far away that not even a sniper could have hit him. He knew how to fly and abused the SPEED of the craft.
This is what dropship pilots DONT do that need to learn how to do. because, LOL im sorry if you are just floating over a pillar all static, of course you are gonna get r4ped by FGs if you stay still for more than 5 seconds. Pfft...

Git good

And nullifying damage to infantry on FG? are you insane? its what makes the FG better than swarms in a way. Plus they already have the enormous handicap of being a heavy only weapon, so no.

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Xaviah Reaper Savage Arms INC 7	Posted - 2013.08.24 15:45:00 - [1] - Quote No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper
Interplanetary Insanitarium Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 162	Posted - 2013.08.24 16:25:00 - [2] - Quote I could agree with that if you mean proto AFG's... But sometimes when I use my DAU and I hit a drop ship they change direction immediately, sometimes they just try to gain altitude and completely forget that I'm leading them. If anything though DS's need some insane loving, or at least a heavy air variant. Like a sky tank.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 879	Posted - 2013.08.24 16:31:00 - [3] - Quote lol, tears. I'm not even a forge gunner, I still think this is hilarious.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 672	Posted - 2013.08.24 16:31:00 - [4] - Quote Hahahahahahahahha im a tanker and id never call for such a thing . You must be feeling so much more forge but hurt than me lo f@#king l.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 672	Posted - 2013.08.24 16:36:00 - [5] - Quote Get max shield up gradws then lvl4 vehicle engineering and stack 2 astropic ward shield extenders 2 ward amplifiers and 2 localpowerdiognostics and youll find your survivability increse. You will however have to rely onbpassive shield regen (that means retreating when you start taking dammage ) be more hit and run try strafing runs with cycled missiles or high speed low runs with scattered blasters get 2 compotent gunners with mics and your set.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 352	Posted - 2013.08.24 16:43:00 - [6] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper try putting some skills into your tank or having a ground crew to protect you. the easiest solution is getting rid of the random thing that you don't like. that's lazy.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 357	Posted - 2013.08.24 17:00:00 - [7] - Quote FGs are fine...but dropships need a buff badly.
Arc-08 Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 40	Posted - 2013.08.24 17:51:00 - [8] - Quote i could say that maybe some people are getting toooo accurate with forge guns, maybe like just a little eannie tiny little nerf to the speed that a forge gun moves. but yes i feel your pain as a fellow dropship pilot, and i know that it is just that dropships are so weak, it isn't the forge gun that needs the nerf it's the dropship that needs a MAJOR buff, in a few areas.
ugg reset Molon Labe. League of Infamy 367	Posted - 2013.08.24 18:00:00 - [9] - Quote It the range on the FG that bugs me. though if small rail guns could shoot straight this would be less of an issue as I could shoot back ...
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 58	Posted - 2013.08.24 18:36:00 - [10] - Quote Shaddap with the whining. It's a damn cannon, now it doesn't make sense that there shouldn't be a railgun to match that kind of power and it sucks that dropships are so flimsy right now but that doesn't mean the forge fun has to go away. Means dropships need a buff.

Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 194	Posted - 2013.08.24 19:05:00 - [11] - Quote BUFF THE SHIP and rause the price of the forge
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1038	Posted - 2013.08.24 19:34:00 - [12] - Quote I would understand this if it were the assault forge in question..
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 122	Posted - 2013.08.24 20:40:00 - [13] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper Butthurt much......
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2013.08.24 21:55:00 - [14] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper Just another noob raging. Lemme summerise to everyone what it was meant to be used for, it was meant to be used for vehicles not players they made it so that players can be damaged by it because it would be stupid if they weren't
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 883	Posted - 2013.08.24 23:47:00 - [15] - Quote Don't forget to whip out your Forge Guns when you see "Xaviah Reaper" on the other team everyone (might be a good idea to do it if you see his corp cause you never know if he's playing on an in-corp alt). Remember, they work just as good on Dropsuits as they do on Dropships.
Thurak1 Psygod9 66	Posted - 2013.08.24 23:55:00 - [16] - Quote R'adeh Hunt wrote: FGs are fine...but dropships need a buff badly. Yep. Dropships are also cumbersome to fly. I used to wonder why they had such problems avoiding me shooting them down and why they seem to always fly so slow. Then i bought some militia dropships and started flying them... Its not easy to pilot one of them. I still cant land one myself after crashing 6x now im content using a lav and having my friends pilot my dropship to get me where i want to be.
Exionous Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 23	Posted - 2013.08.25 00:07:00 - [17] - Quote I don't believe they should all be removed, as they are rather effective and balanced when used correctly... the AFG is what I have a problem with. I have an entire post on this, it's bumping every few minutes, go check it out if you're interested.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 183	Posted - 2013.08.25 00:23:00 - [18] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper my friend do u have to hate the assault fg so much? i may have been going positive and obliterating everying including teamplayers with this gun..but i dont think its op... id rather say REMOVE DAMAGE MODS instead.. the splash cant kill some1 welll it could but the need low hp to begin with... its more of a skill shot weapon any ways...ive been assaulting nubs with it and i can tell u that if u get caught charging this thing in cqc ur dead...unless u get the shot of on them and kill them first and if u miss.... all in all i think its balanced... but i dont care about proto version as the adv is good enough for me... and its not op... its designed to ohk infantry! if it didnt then that would mean protos would once again be close to invincible so far this gun as made the pub stomps less horrible for me... i think its done quite well its fine where its at any ways...
Ren Ratner Infinite Raiders 74	Posted - 2013.08.25 00:31:00 - [19] - Quote Ha, because demands will surely be met when they're typed in caps. I'm sure CCP cares very much for your opinion.
KalOfTheRathi Black Phoenix Mercenaries 590	Posted - 2013.08.25 00:31:00 - [20] - Quote No! Love my forge guns. Love 'em I do. Watch those tanks light up. Watch the flying bricks drop. Even when they are above a Turret or a Tank and thought they were safe. Stand by a Hive or Supply to get the best response. Either Breach or Assault can crush those in opposition. The infantry jump into the air as my charge hits, propelling them to a new clone while this one turns to ash. A fitting tribute to my Forge of Death. Don't forget to reload first, so none can steal the kill for your installation destruction.

KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 627	Posted - 2013.08.25 00:32:00 - [21] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper NO. FG stay FOREVER Deal with it
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 151	Posted - 2013.08.25 02:06:00 - [22] - Quote Xaviah Reaper wrote: No bloody hand held gun should do 3k damage and fire in rapid succession at the speed of the assault forge guns and have such a huge firing range. either make the forge guns 300k isk each, or f*ing smash them with a nerf bat. I have a python worth 1.3m isk, 3 shield extenders, 1 booster, 2 pg 5% mods, and i still get 3 shot by 1 forge gunner .. so if there is more than one, I have lost my f*ing 1.3m isk. rage rage rage, rant rant, blah blah.. im unhappy -_- reaper the answer is simple. buff dropships +1 slot +pg +cpu nerf price forge gun mounted turrets on dropship to shoot back. BALANCE.
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 46	Posted - 2013.08.25 03:25:00 - [23] - Quote Been a fat suit since day one of my dust fun. the forge should not be able to hit drop suits with the same high damage meant for killing heavy vehicles.and the fact that there is a militia variant that can still one shot any drop suit is crazy.the only two options i see is either simply make the forge only able to shoot when aimed at a vehicle or some how make the dmg done to drop suits significantly less/ the splash radius smaller. Either way a forge gu needs to be AV oriented an its not anymore. One militia forge gun rules the map when up high with a nano hive just poping suits
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2013.08.25 03:31:00 - [24] - Quote NoxMort3m wrote: Been a fat suit since day one of my dust fun. the forge should not be able to hit drop suits with the same high damage meant for killing heavy vehicles.and the fact that there is a militia variant that can still one shot any drop suit is crazy.the only two options i see is either simply make the forge only able to shoot when aimed at a vehicle or some how make the dmg done to drop suits significantly less/ the splash radius smaller. Either way a forge gu needs to be AV oriented an its not anymore. One militia forge gun rules the map when up high with a nano hive just poping suits As a pilot.... I have to agree with you. Should FGs be a one hit kill on my multimillion ISK craft? HELL NO! But we NEED the forge guns, or packs of LAVs and tanks will feed on us all. I say make it like the AV grenades and null any damage to infantry.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 629	Posted - 2013.08.25 03:39:00 - [25] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: NoxMort3m wrote: Been a fat suit since day one of my dust fun. the forge should not be able to hit drop suits with the same high damage meant for killing heavy vehicles.and the fact that there is a militia variant that can still one shot any drop suit is crazy.the only two options i see is either simply make the forge only able to shoot when aimed at a vehicle or some how make the dmg done to drop suits significantly less/ the splash radius smaller. Either way a forge gu needs to be AV oriented an its not anymore. One militia forge gun rules the map when up high with a nano hive just poping suits As a pilot.... I have to agree with you. Should FGs be a one hit kill on my multimillion ISK craft? HELL NO! But we NEED the forge guns, or packs of LAVs and tanks will feed on us all. I say make it like the AV grenades and null any damage to infantry. FG DO NOT one hit a MULTIMILLION ISK craft. Thats a Lie. Not even a Breach one,unless you are running MLT dropship,which is NOT a multimillion ISK craft >..> Plus Those Dropships move insanely fast, so much that can outrun swarms. If someone actually HITs you with a FG then is because you are not flying properly. Using a FG , specially an assault one to hit a moving Dropship is NO easy task plus it leaves you vulnerable for a long time. Dropships DO need a buff i agree. BUT the whining of sucky pilots is also annoying me.I Suck at flying but the brief time i was with Seraphim initiative i flew with a Dropship pilot that ACTUALLY knew what he was doing. He got hit by 1 Proto AV weapon and in a matter of 3 seconds he was already so far away that not even a sniper could have hit him. He knew how to fly and abused the SPEED of the craft. This is what dropship pilots DONT do that need to learn how to do. because, LOL im sorry if you are just floating over a pillar all static, of course you are gonna get r4ped by FGs if you stay still for more than 5 seconds. Pfft... Git good And nullifying damage to infantry on FG? are you insane? its what makes the FG better than swarms in a way. Plus they already have the enormous handicap of being a heavy only weapon, so no.
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 69	Posted - 2013.08.25 03:46:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Galm Fae wrote: NoxMort3m wrote: Been a fat suit since day one of my dust fun. the forge should not be able to hit drop suits with the same high damage meant for killing heavy vehicles.and the fact that there is a militia variant that can still one shot any drop suit is crazy.the only two options i see is either simply make the forge only able to shoot when aimed at a vehicle or some how make the dmg done to drop suits significantly less/ the splash radius smaller. Either way a forge gu needs to be AV oriented an its not anymore. One militia forge gun rules the map when up high with a nano hive just poping suits As a pilot.... I have to agree with you. Should FGs be a one hit kill on my multimillion ISK craft? HELL NO! But we NEED the forge guns, or packs of LAVs and tanks will feed on us all. I say make it like the AV grenades and null any damage to infantry. FG DO NOT one hit a MULTIMILLION ISK craft. Thats a Lie. Not even a Breach one,unless you are running MLT dropship,which is NOT a multimillion ISK craft >..> Plus Those Dropships move insanely fast, so much that can outrun swarms. If someone actually HITs you with a FG then is because you are not flying properly. Using a FG , specially an assault one to hit a moving Dropship is NO easy task plus it leaves you vulnerable for a long time. Dropships DO need a buff i agree. BUT the whining of sucky pilots is also annoying me.I Suck at flying but the brief time i was with Seraphim initiative i flew with a Dropship pilot that ACTUALLY knew what he was doing. He got hit by 1 Proto AV weapon and in a matter of 3 seconds he was already so far away that not even a sniper could have hit him. He knew how to fly and abused the SPEED of the craft. This is what dropship pilots DONT do that need to learn how to do. because, LOL im sorry if you are just floating over a pillar all static, of course you are gonna get r4ped by FGs if you stay still for more than 5 seconds. Pfft... Git good And nullifying damage to infantry on FG? are you insane? its what makes the FG better than swarms in a way. Plus they already have the enormous handicap of being a heavy only weapon, so no. Ignore the trollbate Galm... Just ignore it.... Maybe it will go away.... >folds hands Maybe for you "heavies" (air quotations with hands) or as we call you "assholes" (air quotations) think all there is to spending money is shield tanking our craft. I don't think you get that we put money in damage modifiers, thrust enhances, and electronic support because you "heavies" only have to worry about spending money on tanking. I don't think you get that it doesn't matter how well I fly or maneuver, because now a one ton forge gun can apparently track faster than a blaster on a swivel pod. In other words... You know nothing... So shut up.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 629	Posted - 2013.08.25 03:51:00 - [27] - Quote ''Ignore the trollbate Galm... Just ignore it.... Maybe it will go away.... >folds hands Maybe for you "heavies" (air quotations with hands) or as we call you "assholes" (air quotations) think all there is to spending money is shield tanking our craft. I don't think you get that we put money in damage modifiers, thrust enhances, and electronic support because you "heavies" only have to worry about spending money on tanking. I don't think you get that it doesn't matter how well I fly or maneuver, because now a one ton forge gun can apparently track faster than a blaster on a swivel pod. In other words... You know nothing... So shut up.'' The one that seems to be clue less is YOU. It seems you think running heavy is an easy task. Shooting down a Dropship is an easy task. So yeah YOU know nothing. Of course bad pilots make out jobs a lot easier. I already admitted that Dropships are Under-powered. But you people cant admit you are flying them WRONG. You are not supposed to be hovering over an objective shooting at everything with impunity. You attack,drop troops and GTO. Im not going anywhere* , i specialize on shutting up Vehicle pilots and tankers who whine more than necessary. (specially lately, that everything i see is Vehicle users saying FG are OP and tanks UP, and Mass driver vs AR nerf petitions...so yeah)
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 69	Posted - 2013.08.25 04:02:00 - [28] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Ignore the trollbate Galm... Just ignore it.... Maybe it will go away.... >folds hands Maybe for you "heavies" (air quotations with hands) or as we call you "assholes" (air quotations) think all there is to spending money is shield tanking our craft. I don't think you get that we put money in damage modifiers, thrust enhances, and electronic support because you "heavies" only have to worry about spending money on tanking. I don't think you get that it doesn't matter how well I fly or maneuver, because now a one ton forge gun can apparently track faster than a blaster on a swivel pod. In other words... You know nothing... So shut up.'' The one that seems to be clue less is YOU. It seems you think running heavy is an easy task. Shooting down a Dropship is an easy task. So yeah YOU know nothing. Of course bad pilots make out jobs a lot easier. I already admitted that Dropships are Under-powered. But you people cant admit you are flying them WRONG. You are not supposed to be hovering over an objective shooting at everything with impunity. You attack,drop troops and GTO. Im not going anywhere* , i specialize on shutting up Vehicle pilots and tankers who whine more than necessary. (specially lately, that everything i see is Vehicle users saying FG are OP and tanks UP, and Mass driver vs AR nerf petitions...so yeah) Ohhhhhohhoh you really have no idea. If anything I am in a constant strafing run to avoid forge guns. But with the turret drop offs the only way you can cause any amount of damage is by leveling out for a good three seconds, only for an Assault FG to wipe me out. You are looking at the guy who runs afterburners and dual Jovian powerplants, I don't hover.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 629	Posted - 2013.08.25 04:10:00 - [29] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Ignore the trollbate Galm... Just ignore it.... Maybe it will go away.... >folds hands Maybe for you "heavies" (air quotations with hands) or as we call you "assholes" (air quotations) think all there is to spending money is shield tanking our craft. I don't think you get that we put money in damage modifiers, thrust enhances, and electronic support because you "heavies" only have to worry about spending money on tanking. I don't think you get that it doesn't matter how well I fly or maneuver, because now a one ton forge gun can apparently track faster than a blaster on a swivel pod. In other words... You know nothing... So shut up.'' The one that seems to be clue less is YOU. It seems you think running heavy is an easy task. Shooting down a Dropship is an easy task. So yeah YOU know nothing. Of course bad pilots make out jobs a lot easier. I already admitted that Dropships are Under-powered. But you people cant admit you are flying them WRONG. You are not supposed to be hovering over an objective shooting at everything with impunity. You attack,drop troops and GTO. Im not going anywhere* , i specialize on shutting up Vehicle pilots and tankers who whine more than necessary. (specially lately, that everything i see is Vehicle users saying FG are OP and tanks UP, and Mass driver vs AR nerf petitions...so yeah) Ohhhhhohhoh you really have no idea. If anything I am in a constant strafing run to avoid forge guns. But with the turret drop offs the only way you can cause any amount of damage is by leveling out for a good three seconds, only for an Assault FG to wipe me out. You are looking at the guy who runs afterburners and dual Jovian powerplants, I don't hover. ...nor know how to fly either it seems.(i mean if you really get killed that much by FGs) FG needs 1st. To be almost stationary 2nd: To calculate distance , since believe it or not the FG has a Traveling time that varies depending of distance. 3rd: Get good positioning, since GOOD dropship pilots usually hide behind buildings after they get shot once 4th: Being covered by some teammates so that you dont get ravaged while trying to shoot a Dropship down. I know as a fact a good pilot can help his 2 gunners go 30+ to zero and die ZERO times. I also know as a fact Dropships need some love. I also now People always want the easier way to get things done, there by we have people who just whine just because they have internet and can....
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 109	Posted - 2013.08.25 04:54:00 - [30] - Quote Forge guns hae a place in Dust, but they are too powerful as is. I'd say increasing charge time would be the simplest thing to do. At least ehicles hae a chance to get the hell out of dodge. Also, I'm not sure if this happens already, but I'd be for forge gun splash killing LAV drivers.



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