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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:28:00 -
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Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:30:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision?
get out of your crutch tank. Swarms have to lock on for each volley. Cry more nub. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
747
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:32:00 -
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In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1008
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:33:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? get out of your crutch tank. Swarms have to lock on for each volley. Cry more nub.
Lock on
Its 1 second
Problems of a crutch user
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Its stronger and faster firing than my missiles or railgun
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
19
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:34:00 -
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[quote=Spkr4theDead]Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
Just that being said alone,tanks are defensive these days,and what do you expect man they cost alot Its hard to even get in the battlefield anymore with blaster without full pushes from infantry blue's.I am a full believer of the rail snipes.If forge gunners can sit up high and be vaginas.Im sitting in my redline |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1783
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:36:00 -
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I mean its a good change, as it will make swarms feel much smoother to use.
However.. they should have decreased the dps a little, this is crazy. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
767
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:36:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? Cause most people say "Nerf swarms!"
And then leave...no feedback.
Not all people, just most. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
19
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:37:00 -
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Then Another thought then.They should extend the redline out then,or move the spawns all back farther.couple ideas there. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:45:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? get out of your crutch tank. Swarms have to lock on for each volley. Cry more nub. LOL Go back to Call of Duty. Crutch tank? Everybody was crying that contact grenades were being spammed, that they were doing too much damage. What happened? They got nerfed. Why do you need crutch homing AV weapons? Is using a forge gun too hard for you? |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:46:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? get out of your crutch tank. Swarms have to lock on for each volley. Cry more nub. LOL Go back to Call of Duty. Crutch tank? Everybody was crying that contact grenades were being spammed, that they were doing too much damage. What happened? They got nerfed. Why do you need crutch homing AV weapons? Is using a forge gun too hard for you?
CCP Logibro wrote:As Everything Dies mentioned above this post, I would like to point out that you will have to re-lock your target between shots with the swarm launcher. It's not a case of lock->fire->0.2sec delay->fire. It's Lock->fire-0.2sec delay->lock->fire->0.2sec delay.
cry more, bitchlet |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:47:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? Cause most people say "Nerf swarms!" And then leave...no feedback. Not all people, just most. Because everybody knows something like that won't be taken seriously. I put up a thread like that and got suspended from the forums. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:48:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? get out of your crutch tank. Swarms have to lock on for each volley. Cry more nub. LOL Go back to Call of Duty. Crutch tank? Everybody was crying that contact grenades were being spammed, that they were doing too much damage. What happened? They got nerfed. Why do you need crutch homing AV weapons? Is using a forge gun too hard for you? CCP Logibro wrote:As Everything Dies mentioned above this post, I would like to point out that you will have to re-lock your target between shots with the swarm launcher. It's not a case of lock->fire->0.2sec delay->fire. It's Lock->fire-0.2sec delay->lock->fire->0.2sec delay. cry more, bitchlet Oh, because 1/5 of a second is such a long time. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:49:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Oh, because 1/5 of a second is such a long time.
Derp, takes longer to lock on now, derpity derpppp |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1131
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:50:00 -
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No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:52:00 -
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If you are staying in the redline because you dont wanna lose money on your tank, why dont you, idk, make more money. This is New Eden, dont be a loser. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:53:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap I'll drop a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with anything you want on it and you'll drive out against PRO AV and see how it feels. How does that sound? I don't care if it's 1.5mil. I'm space rich anyway. You wanna try out tanking? |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:54:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:If you are staying in the redline because you dont wanna lose money on your tank, why dont you, idk, make more money. This is New Eden, dont be a loser. You're trolling more than anything. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:55:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap I'll drop a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with anything you want on it and you'll drive out against PRO AV and see how it feels. How does that sound? I don't care if it's 1.5mil. I'm space rich anyway. You wanna try out tanking?
Standard tank vs Proto av... |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1012
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:56:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Oh, because 1/5 of a second is such a long time. Derp, takes longer to lock on now, derpity derpppp
Herp derp no it doesnt
1.4 now is 1 second
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1012
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:58:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap I'll drop a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with anything you want on it and you'll drive out against PRO AV and see how it feels. How does that sound? I don't care if it's 1.5mil. I'm space rich anyway. You wanna try out tanking? Standard tank vs Proto av...
Why isnt that fair?
But its fair when you have the crutch proto swarm in your hand against a basic vehicle
But isnt tanking easy? come on you can show us and prove it go toe to toe with proto AV and show us how its done right? you will wont you?
LOL no you ******* wont, all talk no pants
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:58:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap I'll drop a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with anything you want on it and you'll drive out against PRO AV and see how it feels. How does that sound? I don't care if it's 1.5mil. I'm space rich anyway. You wanna try out tanking? Standard tank vs Proto av... SO YOU SEE OUR POINT!! YOU'RE ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY! |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1557
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:58:00 -
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Who gave you pricks a crystal ball? |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:59:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Oh, because 1/5 of a second is such a long time. Derp, takes longer to lock on now, derpity derpppp Herp derp no it doesnt 1.4 now is 1 second
after heavy sp investment. cry more |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:59:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Why isnt that fair?
But its fair when you have the crutch proto swarm in your hand against a basic vehicle
But isnt tanking easy? come on you can show us and prove it go toe to toe with proto AV and show us how its done right? you will wont you?
LOL no you ******* wont, all talk no pants
When are you getting online? |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:00:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap I'll drop a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with anything you want on it and you'll drive out against PRO AV and see how it feels. How does that sound? I don't care if it's 1.5mil. I'm space rich anyway. You wanna try out tanking? Standard tank vs Proto av... Why isnt that fair? But its fair when you have the crutch proto swarm in your hand against a basic vehicle But isnt tanking easy? come on you can show us and prove it go toe to toe with proto AV and show us how its done right? you will wont you? LOL no you ******* wont, all talk no pants
cute. tanks biggest crutch of all. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:01:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Oh, because 1/5 of a second is such a long time. Derp, takes longer to lock on now, derpity derpppp Herp derp no it doesnt 1.4 now is 1 second after heavy sp investment. cry more Heavy SP investment LOL! Pilot suits are going to be 8x, if they're put in at all because you know, heaven forbid tanks should be made any stronger, I'm going straight to lvl 5 to get the best bonus possible. Talk about heavy SP investment? LOL you don't know what that is. I have 9mil in vehicle upgrades, and I don't have everything at 5. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:02:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Oh, because 1/5 of a second is such a long time. Derp, takes longer to lock on now, derpity derpppp Herp derp no it doesnt 1.4 now is 1 second after heavy sp investment. cry more
He thinks 2mil SP is heavy investment
lolno **** off try 15mil into basic hulls and mods |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:03:00 -
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Any more tank nerfs would remove them and their requisite skills from the game. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:03:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:No, tanks red line because the redline exists and will for as long as this dumb mechanic exists. Buff tanks to gods and there will stilll be redline rail tanks.
Cut The Crap I'll drop a Gunnlogi/Madrugar with anything you want on it and you'll drive out against PRO AV and see how it feels. How does that sound? I don't care if it's 1.5mil. I'm space rich anyway. You wanna try out tanking? Standard tank vs Proto av... Why isnt that fair? But its fair when you have the crutch proto swarm in your hand against a basic vehicle But isnt tanking easy? come on you can show us and prove it go toe to toe with proto AV and show us how its done right? you will wont you? LOL no you ******* wont, all talk no pants cute. tanks biggest crutch of all.
Wont take the offer, not suprised none of them dont anyways
Keep defending your crutch scrub |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:04:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Why isnt that fair?
But its fair when you have the crutch proto swarm in your hand against a basic vehicle
But isnt tanking easy? come on you can show us and prove it go toe to toe with proto AV and show us how its done right? you will wont you?
LOL no you ******* wont, all talk no pants
When are you getting online?
I dunno after ive done shoving fact down idiots throats and kicking away crutches so they fall flat on ther faces but il be on soon |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1231
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:08:00 -
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wow... this is sad, they are buffing SL..... WTF CCP i want w/e your smoking. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:08:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Keep defending your crutch scrub
I have 0 SP into swarms, all mine in forges. Grow up.
Tank crutch, biggest crutch. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:10:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Keep defending your crutch scrub
I have 0 SP into swarms, all mine in forges. Grow up. Tank crutch, biggest crutch.
Still wont take the offer
Its because hes a bad player
FG gonna get nerfed if you keep killing infantry, then again its an alt chara with no SP into anything probs just for poor attempted trolling |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1239
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:14:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto.
You complain about the buff and yet exploit the vehicle probably most responsible for it. Classy. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:15:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Keep defending your crutch scrub
I have 0 SP into swarms, all mine in forges. Grow up. Tank crutch, biggest crutch. Still wont take the offer Its because hes a bad player FG gonna get nerfed if you keep killing infantry, then again its an alt chara with no SP into anything probs just for poor attempted trolling
lol u got me, my trolling is as bad as you are at this game. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:17:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Keep defending your crutch scrub
I have 0 SP into swarms, all mine in forges. Grow up. Tank crutch, biggest crutch. Still wont take the offer Its because hes a bad player FG gonna get nerfed if you keep killing infantry, then again its an alt chara with no SP into anything probs just for poor attempted trolling lol u got me, my trolling is as bad as you are at this game.
At my worst im better than you but i play the game and you dont |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:32:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:The Attorney General wrote:In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto. You complain about the buff and yet exploit the vehicle probably most responsible for it. Classy. LOL exploit!
What's the most popular AV? AV grenade and swarm. Why? High damage and homing ability. That is a crutch. What's the vehicle he's driving? Shield. You could get close to 60% passive resist on a Charybdis. So no, your ADV swarm won't do much damage to it, as it should be. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
349
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:42:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:The Attorney General wrote:In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto. You complain about the buff and yet exploit the vehicle probably most responsible for it. Classy. LOL exploit! What's the most popular AV? AV grenade and swarm. Why? High damage and homing ability. That is a crutch. What's the vehicle he's driving? Shield. You could get close to 60% passive resist on a Charybdis. So no, your ADV swarm won't do much damage to it, as it should be.
Lolnope.
Forge Gun = Heavy exclusive
Plasma Cannon = Mediocre all around, slow, only gets one shot then has one of longest reload times in the game, easy for a vehicle to retreat. Not reliable at all.
Mass Driver = requires too much set-up against shield tankers and is easy to flee from against armor tankers, near useless against LoLAVs and Dropships
Remote Explosives = Useless against Dropships, requires specific timing, mind games, and baiting making them unreliable
Proximity Mines = Lol
Please tell me the numerous amount of ways to reliably take out vehicles outside of swarms and AV nades? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1019
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:48:00 -
[39] - Quote
Justin Tymes wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:The Attorney General wrote:In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto. You complain about the buff and yet exploit the vehicle probably most responsible for it. Classy. LOL exploit! What's the most popular AV? AV grenade and swarm. Why? High damage and homing ability. That is a crutch. What's the vehicle he's driving? Shield. You could get close to 60% passive resist on a Charybdis. So no, your ADV swarm won't do much damage to it, as it should be. Lolnope. Forge Gun = Heavy exclusive Plasma Cannon = Mediocre all around, slow, only gets one shot then has one of longest reload times in the game, easy for a vehicle to retreat. Not reliable at all. Mass Driver = requires too much set-up against shield tankers and is easy to flee from against armor tankers, near useless against LoLAVs and Dropships Remote Explosives = Useless against Dropships, requires specific timing, mind games, and baiting making them unreliable Proximity Mines = Lol Please tell me the numerous amount of ways to reliably take out vehicles outside of swarms and AV nades?
But the FG requires skill, buff the PC but that also requires skill
MD is infatry if you use against a tank you are an idiot
RE is placement and timing ie skill again
Proxy mines placement ie skill for the 4th time but lol less damage than crutch nades
So stuff that requires skill you cant use |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
445
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:53:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:The Attorney General wrote:In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto. You complain about the buff and yet exploit the vehicle probably most responsible for it. Classy. LOL exploit! What's the most popular AV? AV grenade and swarm. Why? High damage and homing ability. That is a crutch. What's the vehicle he's driving? Shield. You could get close to 60% passive resist on a Charybdis. So no, your ADV swarm won't do much damage to it, as it should be. Lolnope. Forge Gun = Heavy exclusive Plasma Cannon = Mediocre all around, slow, only gets one shot then has one of longest reload times in the game, easy for a vehicle to retreat. Not reliable at all. Mass Driver = requires too much set-up against shield tankers and is easy to flee from against armor tankers, near useless against LoLAVs and Dropships Remote Explosives = Useless against Dropships, requires specific timing, mind games, and baiting making them unreliable Proximity Mines = Lol Please tell me the numerous amount of ways to reliably take out vehicles outside of swarms and AV nades? I'm no idiot, but I completely missed the point of your whole post. |
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
349
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:57:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:The Attorney General wrote:In house decision.
There is no sympathy for anyone who actually tries to use these broken things and then attempts to give feedback.
CCP has made it quite clear that vehicle users are food for the infantry, nothing more.
I'm going to dump some SP into my Charybdis and just play murder taxi to get my SP until 1.5 hits. Smearing scrubs in pubs is the new tank drivers motto. You complain about the buff and yet exploit the vehicle probably most responsible for it. Classy. LOL exploit! What's the most popular AV? AV grenade and swarm. Why? High damage and homing ability. That is a crutch. What's the vehicle he's driving? Shield. You could get close to 60% passive resist on a Charybdis. So no, your ADV swarm won't do much damage to it, as it should be. Lolnope. Forge Gun = Heavy exclusive Plasma Cannon = Mediocre all around, slow, only gets one shot then has one of longest reload times in the game, easy for a vehicle to retreat. Not reliable at all. Mass Driver = requires too much set-up against shield tankers and is easy to flee from against armor tankers, near useless against LoLAVs and Dropships Remote Explosives = Useless against Dropships, requires specific timing, mind games, and baiting making them unreliable Proximity Mines = Lol Please tell me the numerous amount of ways to reliably take out vehicles outside of swarms and AV nades? But the FG requires skill, buff the PC but that also requires skill MD is infatry if you use against a tank you are an idiot RE is placement and timing ie skill again Proxy mines placement ie skill for the 4th time but lol less damage than crutch nades So stuff that requires skill you cant use
Haven't answered anything
FG is Heavy exclusive. How can Medium Frames skillfully use a Forge Gun?
Plasma Cannon is a joke, no vehicle cares about them, so why should anyone use them as a anti-vehicle weapon?
MD has the ability to hit vehicles, and since Plasma Cannon's sucks it's the only other weapon that Medium and Light Frame weapons can use as a AV weapon.
RE requires the vehicle to roll over them, and for you to be watching the RE at all times, and if a vehicle user sees you do so a smart driver will simply stay away and shoot you or get Infantry to take them out. It takes skill, yes, but that's not reliable at all, which is why most people don't do it.
Proxy Mines are a joke, they instantly alert the driver where they are, and they do pathetic damage; LoLAVs and Shield tanks roll right over them without a care in the world, and armor tanks wonder if they hit a rock. If you don't think they are you haven't used them.
And there are no other AV options left. Of course Swarms and AV nades are going to be popular because of this. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1025
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:06:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:
Haven't answered anything
FG is Heavy exclusive. How can Medium Frames skillfully use a Forge Gun? It take skill so you wouldnt use it anyways
Plasma Cannon is a joke, no vehicle cares about them, so why should anyone use them as a anti-vehicle weapon? Like i said buff it but it takes skill so you wont use it
MD has the ability to hit vehicles, and since Plasma Cannon's sucks it's the only other weapon that Medium and Light Frame weapons can use as a AV weapon. It should do reduced damage to vehicles its small arms fire
RE requires the vehicle to roll over them, and for you to be watching the RE at all times, and if a vehicle user sees you do so a smart driver will simply stay away and shoot you or get Infantry to take them out. It takes skill, yes, but that's not reliable at all, which is why most people don't do it. so it requires skill so you wont use
Proxy Mines are a joke, they instantly alert the driver where they are, and they do pathetic damage; LoLAVs and Shield tanks roll right over them without a care in the world, and armor tanks wonder if they hit a rock. If you don't think they are you haven't used them. You swap the damage with crutch nades and win, requires skill but you wont use
And there are no other AV options left. Of course Swarms and AV nades are going to be popular because of this.
Keep using crutch weapons but you wont swap dmg of crutch nade with proxy mines because you love crutch nades,i bet you wouldnt swap the damge of the plasma canno with swarms because swarms do all the work so you dont have to |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
349
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:11:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:
Haven't answered anything
FG is Heavy exclusive. How can Medium Frames skillfully use a Forge Gun? It take skill so you wouldnt use it anyways
Plasma Cannon is a joke, no vehicle cares about them, so why should anyone use them as a anti-vehicle weapon? Like i said buff it but it takes skill so you wont use it
MD has the ability to hit vehicles, and since Plasma Cannon's sucks it's the only other weapon that Medium and Light Frame weapons can use as a AV weapon. It should do reduced damage to vehicles its small arms fire
RE requires the vehicle to roll over them, and for you to be watching the RE at all times, and if a vehicle user sees you do so a smart driver will simply stay away and shoot you or get Infantry to take them out. It takes skill, yes, but that's not reliable at all, which is why most people don't do it. so it requires skill so you wont use
Proxy Mines are a joke, they instantly alert the driver where they are, and they do pathetic damage; LoLAVs and Shield tanks roll right over them without a care in the world, and armor tanks wonder if they hit a rock. If you don't think they are you haven't used them. You swap the damage with crutch nades and win, requires skill but you wont use
And there are no other AV options left. Of course Swarms and AV nades are going to be popular because of this.
Keep using crutch weapons but you wont swap dmg of crutch nade with proxy mines because you love crutch nades,i bet you wouldnt swap the damge of the plasma canno with swarms because swarms do all the work so you dont have to
Are you saying vehicle users give a damn about anything else but Forge Guns, Swarms and AV nades? The only other thing vehicle user potential care about are Remote Explosives, and for good reason; everything else sucks against them. So take your QQ about other AV options being underused somewhere else, we've heard it all before. |
Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven
1055
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:11:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Will cause even more tanks to redline snipe.
You poo all over us with easy mode crutch AV grenades, then complain when we sit in the redline and snipe with destroyer fits. We can't try to stay in the battle for long because PRO AV, and you don't want us in the redline sniping because you can't solo us easily with AV grenades.
I want to be up front, in the fight, helping to take and hold objectives. But I can't because my armor continues to melt away from PRO AV, and soon it's going to melt away faster because the crutch needs to be made better.
CCP, how many asked for this? Was this the result of browsing the forums, and decided swarms needed reduced lockon time? Did someone suggest it on the forums and you went with it? Was it an in-house decision? get out of your crutch tank. Swarms have to lock on for each volley. Cry more nub.
Oh look. Our savior has arrived with poorly done trolls. Tell me: who you are because scrub trolls are almost as adorable as puppies. Would you like a big juicy bone to suck on, too, oh great one? |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
977
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:15:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA now people are saying tanks are crutches? wtf??
LOL
come back when you have SP in tanks, untilled then youl never know the burden of being a tanker |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
183
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Keep using crutch weapons but you wont swap dmg of crutch nade with proxy mines because you love crutch nades,i bet you wouldnt swap the damge of the plasma canno with swarms because swarms do all the work so you dont have to Well yes, it would be rather stupid to exchange and AV weapon that you can carry with you and use against any close target to defend myself for something that I can only hope to be useful by leaving in potentially high traffic areas for occasional kills usually lacking in strategic value. It's not crutch. It's range of application.
Swarms could probably use some trades with the PC, damage and fire time should favor the latter IMHO, but so long as dropships and redline tanks are used the swarms will see more use as both of those render PC's wholly ineffective.
Scream crutch all you want, but when the limitations on half our tools leaves them situationally ineffective the majority of the time, of course we're going to use what actually works.
But I guess we're just terrible crutch players for not wanting to regularly find ourselves on the underside of your treads. |
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