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Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

When CCP decides Vehicles don't need SP, I'll fight on the ground, want to know why I severely need my tank to survive? All my SP is in Vehicles, I cannot compete on the ground.

So long story short, get ******, I'm not fighting people with 10-20million SP more than me.

When CCP decides Vehicles don't need SP, I'll fight on the ground, want to know why I severely need my tank to survive? All my SP is in Vehicles, I cannot compete on the ground.

So long story short, get ******, I'm not fighting people with 10-20million SP more than me.

So you're mad BC we are mad BC we want good tanks?

When CCP decides Vehicles don't need SP, I'll fight on the ground, want to know why I severely need my tank to survive? All my SP is in Vehicles, I cannot compete on the ground.

So long story short, get ******, I'm not fighting people with 10-20million SP more than me.

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So you're mad BC we are mad BC we want good tanks?

I'm gonna quote this jason. how about the guy that pops all his SP in AV. But doesn't have enough for a decent smg? You don't How see how HAV AND SL users share the same similarities? With some gun game, BOTH THE HAV AND SL are just ducks that wonder in on the wrong season.

CCP Rejavik
CCP Shanghia

Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

OP a crutch user

2mil for lolprotoswarms - covers the battlefield and denys all vehicles

lol he wants me to get out of my tank and kill him instead of using a tank, then riddle me this what use is the tank if i have to get out and kill you instead of using what a specailized in aka a ******* tank

CoD is still around, go and play with the dog its about your skill level

When CCP decides Vehicles don't need SP, I'll fight on the ground, want to know why I severely need my tank to survive? All my SP is in Vehicles, I cannot compete on the ground.

So long story short, get ******, I'm not fighting people with 10-20million SP more than me.

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OP a crutch user

2mil for lolprotoswarms - covers the battlefield and denys all vehicles

lol he wants me to get out of my tank and kill him instead of using a tank, then riddle me this what use is the tank if i have to get out and kill you instead of using what a specailized in aka a ******* tank

CoD is still around, go and play with the dog its about your skill level

I'm gonna quote this jason. how about the guy that pops all his SP in AV. But doesn't have enough for a decent smg? You don't How see how HAV AND SL users share the same similarities? With some gun game, BOTH THE HAV AND SL are just ducks that wonder in on the wrong season.

What? you didn't read title? Simple. Driving a HAV is no excuse to suck when your boots on are the ground. To many times it's the same turtle with out a shell scenario. But thing is.. IT'S ONLY WITH THIS GAME! lol

Other dedicated pilots and drivers from other FPS games know their way around a gun. Losing a HAV or putting their boots on the ground doesn't equate to instant death for them.

Too many times I've seen and killed the poor sob that lost his tank and with tears in his eyes, charges at me to only die quickly.


If your a HAV driver, but have kept up your gun game, than this post is not for you. But those that SEVERELY RELY ON THEIR TANK TO STAY ALIVE, I can see why some QQ constantly.

I was a OHK before I took up the swarms. I did it cause I was bored. But on the field I know my around a gun. (sad if I didn't since FPS make up 80% of my diet since I was a teen)

Swarms aren't a crutch for me, cause before I'm hunting HAVs and DS, I'm hunting the snipers and forge gunners that protect them with my Ish smg.

Crutches aren't good. cause on the battlefield, it's the solder that holding crutches that would get shot first. Balance out, SL and HAV players.

Mate, mate. I went all-in on AV initially. It was 300k SP to get my Scrambler Pistol to a decent level, 800k SP to make it great. My core infantry skills also help me whenever I'm doing anything that's not AV... nor can I be comprehensively locked out of playing any infantry role in a given match.

Our situation is *far* better than theirs.

Swarms aren't a crutch for me, cause before I'm hunting HAVs and DS, I'm hunting the snipers and forge gunners that protect them with my Ish smg.

You do know we only use swarms Cause vehicles are killing us on the field...right? I only whip a weapon that cost me a few million SP to use...if I'm getting killed by a tank, LLAV or a dropship is killing me. It is useless outside of all situations other then locking to a vehicle...it can't be used on anything else...it takes up a light weapon slot and leaves us only with a sidearm. If one ground soldier spots us out, we have a major problem defending ourselves.

I want the SMG you're using. Seems is shoots to the tops of towers.

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MY AV SUIT IS A SCOUT. My side arm are is ISH. My survivability depends on how many are near the hav, and how fast I can run to restock. But I survive more than half of 1vs1. AR or SHOTTY. Add 2 players there and I'm probably dead. But it's not about hav users going infantry, it's about them being able to survive to make it to the red line, call another hav. that takes some sort of gun skill. NO EXCUSE IN A FPS NOT TO HAVE IT.

i have all the high end tank modules armour/shield all proto turrets exept for lrge missiles since i dont have the skill. gallente enforcer 4 and when iam not in my tank i run around witha proto gallente assult suit with either duvolle/credron breach AR's or an ishukone SR with m512 subby. you tell me i cant rely on my tanks even though thats the majority of where i have them.

MY AV SUIT IS A SCOUT. My side arm are is ISH. My survivability depends on how many are near the hav, and how fast I can run to restock. But I survive more than half of 1vs1. AR or SHOTTY. Add 2 players there and I'm probably dead. But it's not about hav users going infantry, it's about them being able to survive to make it to the red line, call another hav. that takes some sort of gun skill. NO EXCUSE IN A FPS NOT TO HAVE IT.

CCP Rejavik
CCP Shanghia

Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

If you want to kill infantry and vehicles either use a FG but that requires aim or lolavnades with the homing crutch

Generally most swarms dont have a problem with infantry because they are 300m away on a tower or a hill far away from anything playing peak a boo

I understand specialization but I don`t understand the tankers crying. 90% of the games I play, tankers are if not the 1st, at least in the top three.

What? you didn't read title? Simple. Driving a HAV is no excuse to suck when your boots on are the ground. To many times it's the same turtle with out a shell scenario. But thing is.. IT'S ONLY WITH THIS GAME! lol

Other dedicated pilots and drivers from other FPS games know their way around a gun. Losing a HAV or putting their boots on the ground doesn't equate to instant death for them.

Too many times I've seen and killed the poor sob that lost his tank and with tears in his eyes, charges at me to only die quickly.


If your a HAV driver, but have kept up your gun game, than this post is not for you. But those that SEVERELY RELY ON THEIR TANK TO STAY ALIVE, I can see why some QQ constantly.

I was a OHK before I took up the swarms. I did it cause I was bored. But on the field I know my around a gun. (sad if I didn't since FPS make up 80% of my diet since I was a teen)

Swarms aren't a crutch for me, cause before I'm hunting HAVs and DS, I'm hunting the snipers and forge gunners that protect them with my Ish smg.

Crutches aren't good. cause on the battlefield, it's the solder that holding crutches that would get shot first. Balance out, SL and HAV players.

What? you didn't read title? Simple. Driving a HAV is no excuse to suck when your boots on are the ground. To many times it's the same turtle with out a shell scenario. But thing is.. IT'S ONLY WITH THIS GAME! lol

Other dedicated pilots and drivers from other FPS games know their way around a gun. Losing a HAV or putting their boots on the ground doesn't equate to instant death for them.

Too many times I've seen and killed the poor sob that lost his tank and with tears in his eyes, charges at me to only die quickly.


If your a HAV driver, but have kept up your gun game, than this post is not for you. But those that SEVERELY RELY ON THEIR TANK TO STAY ALIVE, I can see why some QQ constantly.

I was a OHK before I took up the swarms. I did it cause I was bored. But on the field I know my around a gun. (sad if I didn't since FPS make up 80% of my diet since I was a teen)

Swarms aren't a crutch for me, cause before I'm hunting HAVs and DS, I'm hunting the snipers and forge gunners that protect them with my Ish smg.

Crutches aren't good. cause on the battlefield, it's the solder that holding crutches that would get shot first. Balance out, SL and HAV players.

how much sp do you think it takes to be a maxed out tanker ''dumb''

Irrelevant statement. This is a Tier Driven "MMO"FPS. If SP -> Tank then SP Not -> Dropsuit, unless of course you have 30+ Mil SP. Try again Se+¦or Crutch Defender

I'm gonna quote this jason. how about the guy that pops all his SP in AV. But doesn't have enough for a decent smg? You don't How see how HAV AND SL users share the same similarities? With some gun game, BOTH THE HAV AND SL are just ducks that wonder in on the wrong season.

My "Duck" cannot wander atop Babel's Tower to avoid Hunter. I have to pay Peking Duck prices for my Duckling.... Your "Duck" is OP

The idea of swarms being a crutch is such nonsense.

Giving up your light weapon for the ability to mostly just scare tanks away and tickle LLAVs is apparently "for skill-less players who need something to lean on." I can't wrap my head around it.

You do know we only use swarms Cause vehicles are killing us on the field...right? I only whip a weapon that cost me a few million SP to use...if I'm getting killed by a tank, LLAV or a dropship is killing me. It is useless outside of all situations other then locking to a vehicle...it can't be used on anything else...it takes up a light weapon slot and leaves us only with a sidearm. If one ground soldier spots us out, we have a major problem defending ourselves.

LOL OP, keep using your crutch AR. I can get half the KDR with 0 SP in infantry skills with my 'Dren' Assault Rifle that I get with my tanks. Now keep in mind that it requires 0 SP and is the biggest crutch infantry has. But since I don't like crutches, I use tanks. And if I wanted to play infantry, I would just choose one of the many other games out there that have much more fun infantry play because people don't constantly QQ about every f*cking weapon in those games. Ok, CoD is something I will never touch though, the playerbase is... well, you know how it is... or maybe you don't.

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You must have only MLT swarms if it's that way for you.

Oh, the commando suit lets you use two primaries.

MY AV SUIT IS A SCOUT. My side arm are is ISH. My survivability depends on how many are near the hav, and how fast I can run to restock. But I survive more than half of 1vs1. AR or SHOTTY. Add 2 players there and I'm probably dead. But it's not about hav users going infantry, it's about them being able to survive to make it to the red line, call another hav. that takes some sort of gun skill. NO EXCUSE IN A FPS NOT TO HAVE IT.

And what the mmo loving faires would care if the tank cost as much as a lav?

LOWER THE DAMN PRICE. But tell me why DCUO Loving selves that never played a fps game should pound FPS players, and go 50-2 because they are in a TANK? Last time I checked Dust was barely holding onto it's lobby shooter tag. why would it go against everything that's almost an unwritten rule in every fps?

The idea of swarms being a crutch is such nonsense.

Giving up your light weapon for the ability to mostly just scare tanks away and tickle LLAVs is apparently "for skill-less players who need something to lean on." I can't wrap my head around it.

Advanced. I'm a few days out from proto. I've been using swarms for a few weeks now, and I still don't understand how anyone can view them as OP or a crutch. The majority of my kills with it are, who I can only assume, new players hanging out in turrets, and assholes trying to roadkill everyone in militia LAVs. I've knocked a few dropships around, never get kills though, and tanks? Even the most mediocre militia tank can deal with advanced swarms on most of the maps.

Luckily as a Min I have extra side arm magazine size, anyone else running it would be extra vulnerable. But my AV kit also uses ex-o nades, so its all sidearm for 90% of every other enemy on the map. Such a crutch.

The idea of swarms being a crutch is such nonsense.

Giving up your light weapon for the ability to mostly just scare tanks away and tickle LLAVs is apparently "for skill-less players who need something to lean on." I can't wrap my head around it.

If a Tanker is going 50-2.....there was not an AV present. I hear Hacked Exos were in season. I got 2000+ ripe from the OP Tree. If CoDboi wants CoD I hear you can pray to the Ghost Dog