I hate you guys. I see thread after thread of saying, "Let's talk over how to balance vehicles," but what they really are is, "How can we balance AV against HAVs?" Yeah, let's make forge guns balanced to a vehicle that is able to utilize cover and has 2-3x the health of a dropship. Let's just forget about those poor bastards in the sky, because they don't matter.

As opposed to DUST Fiend, I have skilled into the ADS with 3M SP or so right now, and I am having a good time.

I Don't see issues with Swarms,
I don't see issues with AV nades, I fly
Forge are okay, unless it is the Proto assault version
Railgun turrets, missile turrets an installation can be a pain, but management.

Yep, the worse as a DS pilot is the Forge gun. I am not a Forge hater, I got my proto heavy too.

But we need to keep in mind we have lvl 3 vehicles and modules, and lvl 5 forge, turrets, swarm and whatever.

I think DS should get a health buff, but it wont solve the issue, since we don't want it to be indestructible. I can call an orbital with a 3 men squad (1 gunner and me) in my ADS in some games where I don't get bothered by AV reds.

We need maps with less opened space, a lot more buildings.
DS blows when the map is an open field. Just because you can't hide.
But it doesn't fix the base issue.

Other than that, they should check the cost of the actual, a lvl3 ADS fitted with proto turrets is 1.2M i$K, ridiculously expensive when you encounter a invisible RDV or a single forge gun on a tower focusing on you.

Fixes to do since a while :
CRU WP
Gunner turret glitch (aiming too low down bring turret up)
Side doors auto-opening/closing annoyance when low altitude
Aiming through ADS in 3rd person, no aiming in 1st person without ADS tilting.
RDV collision
engineering skill=no pg bonus
High cost
Turrets ranges vs new damage fall off
HP buff as the others vehicles
LAV reduced survivability And a Forge adjustment.
Invisible map patch of terrain in the air, causing direct blow up. (few spots)
etc.
etc.

I lose a ADS once every 5 games or so right now, mainly to Forge or RDV crashing me when I hover over reddots.

As a ADS pilot i agree with the above statement complete and i have lots of fun in a ADS

+1

It's such a shame how painfully outclassed Logistics ships are by ADS in just about every way that actually matters in game

Logistic ship are great until you need to leave then ur in trouble if they were a little lighter like the ADS then i would use them more tbh

To all those who still enjoy dropships, I both envy and pity you. At some point down the line you will hit a patch where you just get pissed off, and I mean really pissed off, rage quitting dust and ranting on the forums pissed. Every pilot I know of has gone through something like that at least once, I've been through it, and it's a rather crappy experience, I still enjoy flying but my optimism and hope for dropships has taken some major beatings.

To all those who still enjoy dropships, I both envy and pity you. At some point down the line you will hit a patch where you just get pissed off, and I mean really pissed off, rage quitting dust and ranting on the forums pissed. Every pilot I know of has gone through something like that at least once, I've been through it, and it's a rather crappy experience, I still enjoy flying but my optimism and hope for dropships has taken some major beatings.

I almost threw away over a year of dedicated play and nothing but love for this game by being a dedicated dropship pilot for just a few weeks.

It's one of the main reasons I speak up for respec options, because I understand how literally infuriating CCPs design decisions can be.

well lets see... I just lost my 680k Incubus with a shield hardener 2x voltaic passives and 1 armor hardener and lvl V armor upgrades in 2 hits from an assault forge gun. Somethings not right here.

FG balanced against HAV's and being around ground cover at every turn.

Nothing to see here, quit dust or "HTFU" and die like a good derpship pilot.

They need a game mode with far fewer objectives and a significantly greater focus on them. A lack of something to focus a tactical play on is the main reason why Dropships have no relevance besides dropping DUs on roofs.

Ha! FG balanced my ass. I need a proto rail turret to match its damage. One guy in a fat suit literally shouldn't have the power, as in power reserves in the suit itself to out damage all but the top level turrets. Let alone let it fly for near instant damage.

... to kill anything with gunner you have to hover while a FG/rail tank gets ready to **** you

To me, hover or moving slow result in the same thing though.