Academy/Rookie/PansyWoes #483729230. It's called having heart and perseverance. It's understanding that you gotta start somewhere. It's knowing that one day you will also become a terror to new players.

I toughed it out...they should too.

Seems to me that no one mentions the fact that the advertising for Dust was minimal at best. Do you remember seeing any advertisments other than on the PSN?

Seems to me that no one mentions the fact that the advertising for Dust was minimal at best. Do you remember seeing any advertisments other than on the PSN?

You know why Dust is dying? Because people new to the game come on the forums and see these **** post saying that Dust is dying and decide to go play something else. There's quite a few players that will tell you the contrary because they don't go on the forums.

Haha, how many people do you think actually go to a game's forums?

My guess? Maybe 1%, tops.

Stfu clown

How many of those people will tell other people about what they see on the forums about this game dying? It all adds up. You have a bad experience at a restaurant, you're going to tell everyone you know right?

How many of those people will tell other people about what they see on the forums about this game dying? It all adds up. You have a bad experience at a restaurant, you're going to tell everyone you know right?

I mean, if you want to complain about the design of the game? (you'll never catch up, no matter what, thanks to the sp system!!) Sure. But the game isn't in trouble due to random people complaining on a forum.

People complain about all games. Complaining about an objectively bad game for being bad though? Yeah, tough ****. You can't sell the "it'll be better later" thing forever. Us "old heads" with the SP and experience are on one end. The newberries with their 4-5 months before they can actually compete? It's really hard to make an argument for them to stick around. At least with the current matchmaking system.

That's not the community's fault, that's the game's fault.

Complaining about people complaining about a bad game for being a bad game is "blaming the victim."

Really? What about that nutjob that has nothing better to do but make a bunch of alts so they can bump anti-Dust/pro PS2 topics all day and just about any other doomsdayer that spam the forums just to spam? Despite what you may think, there are as many people that still have hope for this game as there's trolls. Then you have people like Cat Merc, but that's a whole different can of beans...

so having 80% of new players leaving after their first few games because they got proto stomped combined with the rest of the player base slowly dwindling because of boredom is not sustainable. .

I mean, if you want to complain about the design of the game? (you'll never catch up, no matter what, thanks to the sp system!!) Sure. But the game isn't in trouble due to random people complaining on a forum.

People complain about all games. Complaining about an objectively bad game for being bad though? Yeah, tough ****. You can't sell the "it'll be better later" thing forever. Us "old heads" with the SP and experience are on one end. The newberries with their 4-5 months before they can actually compete? It's really hard to make an argument for them to stick around. At least with the current matchmaking system.

Sounds a tad conspiracy theorist.

There aren't swarms of people unleashing their troll threads against this game trying to kill it. There are definitely a ton of (understandably) disappointed people. Many of which who won't want to stick around for the promised coming good game.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want Dust to fail. It's doing that all by itself.

According to eve offline there are just over 2000 people logged onto dust.......... 2 million accounts created......lol

How many of those people will tell other people about what they see on the forums about this game dying? It all adds up. You have a bad experience at a restaurant, you're going to tell everyone you know right?

When a new player comes in they start with nothing, and so they get stomped on by people in proto gear, this is not fun. new players don't like being stomped on and already have a bad taste in their mouth from the garbage reviews dust got, so they are very likely to leave because of this. dust needs all the players it can get if it wants to stick around for any good length of time, so having 80% of new players leaving after their first few games because they got proto stomped combined with the rest of the player base slowly dwindling because of boredom is not sustainable. More and more people that I used to play with regularly are stepping away from dust, whether it be from boredom or frustration. something needs to be done to attract more players and fast before the amount of players leaving dust, New ones and old alike start snowballing and the player base eventually dies off.

The only suggestions I can think of off the top of my head are : having a tier system and introducing more content regularly

Leave your opinion on the matter and maybe a few suggestions for Cox bellow.

According to eve offline there are just over 2000 people logged onto dust.......... 2 million accounts created......lol

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

says we're pretty stable.

Also Nicholas Dust 514 was NOT taken out of beta for budgetary concerns. please read the AMA in the CPM section for more information.

Please provide the source for this fascinating statistic.

I have been playing (albeit on another char) since early Beta but am not a console fps bod. Nor is my character cash rich I've survived by being the one doing the hacking as often as possible and by assisting my team mates (I only join pub matches) and yes I get proto stomped now and then. But you have to take the rough with the smooth and its a learning experience.

Also - Play with mouse and keyboard not that lousy controller - its much better lol (sorry for the hi-jack there)

Academy/Rookie/PansyWoes #483729230. It's called having heart and perseverance. It's understanding that you gotta start somewhere. It's knowing that one day you will also become a terror to new players.

I toughed it out...they should too.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

says we're pretty stable.

Also Nicholas Dust 514 was NOT taken out of beta for budgetary concerns. please read the AMA in the CPM section for more information.

no that says eve is stable, not dust, when i clicked on it there 3907 people on and guess what its 1pm est which means it is 6pm euro time in england.

Another thing dust players forget is that a lot of the cheap so called tactics that a majority of the large dominate corps are using like the Damn non stop invincible cars that are stronger than tanks running u over any time your in a fire fight. Or the newest FOTM people running around with this new hack hitting a melee shot like 5 times back to back ARIANA is one of you cheaters. Also this behavior is cheap frustrating and a total destruction of the game and what it could be. It is the long time players that are killing dust with all these exploits. And they are proud of it. From lav to mcc camping to the modded controls. No one will be happy until dust is dead.

I love getting rail snipped from a tank on the top of a mountain 500m away. Ooooooh what fun.

Why does anyone play?

Academy/Rookie/PansyWoes #483729230. It's called having heart and perseverance. It's understanding that you gotta start somewhere. It's knowing that one day you will also become a terror to new players.

I toughed it out...they should too.