DUST Search - dust is slowly dieing

Nicholas Silverton wrote:

When a new player comes in they start with nothing, and so they get stomped on by people in proto gear, this is not fun. new players don't like being stomped on and already have a bad taste in their mouth from the garbage reviews dust got, so they are very likely to leave because of this. dust needs all the players it can get if it wants to stick around for any good length of time, so having 80% of new players leaving after their first few games because they got proto stomped combined with the rest of the player base slowly dwindling because of boredom is not sustainable. More and more people that I used to play with regularly are stepping away from dust, whether it be from boredom or frustration. something needs to be done to attract more players and fast before the amount of players leaving dust, New ones and old alike start snowballing and the player base eventually dies off.

The only suggestions I can think of off the top of my head are : having a tier system and introducing more content regularly

Leave your opinion on the matter and maybe a few suggestions for Cox bellow.

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Nicholas Silverton Granite Mercenary Division 36	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:19:00 - [31] - Quote Drud Green wrote: According to eve offline there are just over 2000 people logged onto dust.......... 2 million accounts created......lol lol eve offline; pun intended?
Akdhar Saif Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 42	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:21:00 - [32] - Quote All the better reason to add PVE content. Also in EVE you can choose your fights, in Dust you either grind against pro's or AFK.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 303	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:25:00 - [33] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Nemo Bluntz wrote: Cosgar wrote: You know why Dust is dying? Because people new to the game come on the forums and see these **** post saying that Dust is dying and decide to go play something else. There's quite a few players that will tell you the contrary because they don't go on the forums. Haha, how many people do you think actually go to a game's forums? My guess? Maybe 1%, tops. How many of those people will tell other people about what they see on the forums about this game dying? It all adds up. You have a bad experience at a restaurant, you're going to tell everyone you know right? So who do you want to blame for that bad experience? I used to recommend this game when it was in beta but then after the issues after launch and lacking content, outages and problems during events I cant recommend it to my friends.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 907	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:27:00 - [34] - Quote Nicholas Silverton wrote: When a new player comes in they start with nothing, and so they get stomped on by people in proto gear, this is not fun. new players don't like being stomped on and already have a bad taste in their mouth from the garbage reviews dust got, so they are very likely to leave because of this. dust needs all the players it can get if it wants to stick around for any good length of time, so having 80% of new players leaving after their first few games because they got proto stomped combined with the rest of the player base slowly dwindling because of boredom is not sustainable. More and more people that I used to play with regularly are stepping away from dust, whether it be from boredom or frustration. something needs to be done to attract more players and fast before the amount of players leaving dust, New ones and old alike start snowballing and the player base eventually dies off. The only suggestions I can think of off the top of my head are : having a tier system and introducing more content regularly Leave your opinion on the matter and maybe a few suggestions for Cox bellow. Its worse for new players who want to use vehicles, you are so ******, milita vs anything above basic = instant death Only way i can think of rmatchmaking is militia/basic, advanced, proto Do it by gear much easier in general
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7483	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:27:00 - [35] - Quote Drud Green wrote: According to eve offline there are just over 2000 people logged onto dust.......... 2 million accounts created......lol This means we have about a 0.1% retention rate over the course of a year. I think we need to look at more specific retention rates from day 1 week 1 and month 1 and identify problems at each phase before we get to the 3 month and year retention.
ThePlanetside2Bomber Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:35:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust says we're pretty stable. Also Nicholas Dust 514 was NOT taken out of beta for budgetary concerns. please read the AMA in the CPM section for more information. Blind faith rears its head again.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 303	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:36:00 - [37] - Quote Lady MDK wrote: Nicholas Silverton wrote: so having 80% of new players leaving after their first few games because they got proto stomped combined with the rest of the player base slowly dwindling because of boredom is not sustainable. . Please provide the source for this fascinating statistic. I have been playing (albeit on another char) since early Beta but am not a console fps bod. Nor is my character cash rich I've survived by being the one doing the hacking as often as possible and by assisting my team mates (I only join pub matches) and yes I get proto stomped now and then. But you have to take the rough with the smooth and its a learning experience. Also - Play with mouse and keyboard not that lousy controller - its much better lol (sorry for the hi-jack there) There was a report that in general 70% of F2P players leave quickly - it said in a day. Just on personal experience, the setup of this game is terrible for the newb and then if you do venture to the forums to see people talking about htfu and hiding their setups etc you cant expect people to continue to wade through that. Diehards yes but the normal gamer, no. Much more has to be done to show what the benefit of sticking around will be and lack of content and Soon is a poor carrot. Also if you are trying to grow a game on a console, the game should be balanced for the console's main input method. Basic things CCP should know and try to achieve they seem to be fighting.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 701	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:53:00 - [38] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Academy/Rookie/PansyWoes #483729230. It's called having heart and perseverance. It's understanding that you gotta start somewhere. It's knowing that one day you will also become a terror to new players. I toughed it out...they should too. Y'know, that's the perfect New Eden way to look at this, and if CCP had their kittenpoop together and the core was sound this would be a perfectly viable attitude. Imo you're the kind of tough-ass killer i want to see immigrate to New Eden. But when you throw protostomping on top of no real tutorial and controls and mechanics that don't always do what a new player asks and compound it with half that person's team wtf afking in the first few games and then you factor in how long the game has been in development....well, if that player doesn't leave DUST and call it crap then it's a)irrational, b)miraculous and c)a testament to the potential we all see here.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 249	Posted - 2013.08.19 17:08:00 - [39] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust says we're pretty stable. Also Nicholas Dust 514 was NOT taken out of beta for budgetary concerns. please read the AMA in the CPM section for more information. no that says eve is stable, not dust, when i clicked on it there 3907 people on and guess what its 1pm est which means it is 6pm euro time in england.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5781	Posted - 2013.08.19 17:14:00 - [40] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust says we're pretty stable. Also Nicholas Dust 514 was NOT taken out of beta for budgetary concerns. please read the AMA in the CPM section for more information. no that says eve is stable, not dust, when i clicked on it there 3907 people on and guess what its 1pm est which means it is 6pm euro time in england. It also says for the past year we have less than 5k active players at any time. And this was supposed to be the biggest thing on PS3 by the end of 2012 L O L

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 688	Posted - 2013.08.19 19:19:00 - [41] - Quote God Anpu TheImmortal wrote: Another thing dust players forget is that a lot of the cheap so called tactics that a majority of the large dominate corps are using like the Damn non stop invincible cars that are stronger than tanks running u over any time your in a fire fight. Or the newest FOTM people running around with this new hack hitting a melee shot like 5 times back to back ARIANA is one of you cheaters. Also this behavior is cheap frustrating and a total destruction of the game and what it could be. It is the long time players that are killing dust with all these exploits. And they are proud of it. From lav to mcc camping to the modded controls. No one will be happy until dust is dead. Not everyone does those cheap tactics. And some folks only run militia not due to not being able to run proto but due to militia and starter fits presenting more of a challenge to get kills with. And getting closer to a billion ISK.
ThePlanetside2Bomber Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2013.08.20 22:54:00 - [42] - Quote I love getting rail snipped from a tank on the top of a mountain 500m away. Ooooooh what fun. Why does anyone play?
SATAN'S PRODIGY D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 43	Posted - 2013.08.20 22:58:00 - [43] - Quote Dust is really dead already. CCP ruined their "one-hit-wonder" (EVE) reputation. If you buy Aurum at this point you must be really bored while you wait for the short school bus on the way to class.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 688	Posted - 2013.08.21 00:14:00 - [44] - Quote ThePlanetside2Bomber wrote: I love getting rail snipped from a tank on the top of a mountain 500m away. Ooooooh what fun. Why does anyone play? Killing time till November. Back to Player Studio and crafting a few items for Planetside Two.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 931	Posted - 2013.08.21 01:15:00 - [45] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Academy/Rookie/PansyWoes #483729230. It's called having heart and perseverance. It's understanding that you gotta start somewhere. It's knowing that one day you will also become a terror to new players. I toughed it out...they should too. It's not even comparable to what a new player experiences now. There's no way a new player should start out with 500,000 SP. I really liked an idea someone posted about agent missions though. Having leveled PVE would go a long way.


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