Whenever I ask a new player what suit he's running, the answer is "I've been using the medic."

CCPs problem with providing more of these suits probably lies in the fact that they'd rather have players buying MLT BPOs instead of having a variety of Starter Fits to choose from.

Instead of having a wide array of infinite stock starter fits, give new players several expendable MLT fittings. 10 or more of each MLT suit with some premade fittings, similar to those posted by OP. Showcase the gameplay a little instead of providing them with the most boring loadouts possible.

Good idea but I would increase the amount of premade fits. Its going to take more than 10x usage for someone to get a feel for the suit and weapon.

Whenever I ask a new player what suit he's running, the answer is "I've been using the medic."

CCPs problem with providing more of these suits probably lies in the fact that they'd rather have players buying MLT BPOs instead of having a variety of Starter Fits to choose from.

Instead of having a wide array of infinite stock starter fits, give new players several expendable MLT fittings. 10 or more of each MLT suit with some premade fittings, similar to those posted by OP. Showcase the gameplay a little instead of providing them with the most boring loadouts possible.

Introducing players to MLT gear in this way would do several things. New players would be introduced to MLT gear and it's lack of skill requirements instead of running around in Assault - Medic until they get bored or learn how to navigate the marketplace. When they run out of suits, they'll learn that they can restock the fitting. Since they actually have a stock of these items, they'll be able to play around with new loadouts. New players can be encouraged to try something other than an AR.

1. racial fits more racist please (scrambler on amarr suits etc)
2. mix of infinite and non-infinite fits (suggest only assaults are infinite)
3. Some cool equipment types.

A little hard to pull off at the moment with the piecemeal state of the racial suits/weapons( as i wrote this i just kept finding hole after hole ), but in the end that would be very cool.

Give them setups that match their starting race, and then a few from other races to add flavor, show options.

So if they start amarr they see something like (not listing the full loadouts, just a couple items to get the idea):

Amarr Assault - Scrambler Assault Rifle - Infinite
Amarr Logistics - [ Amarr MD variant? Laser rifle?] - 30 copies
Amarr Scout - [ Amarr Shotgun?] - Uplinks - infinite
Amarr Heavy - [ Amarr HMG? ] - 30 copies
Amarr Scout?Heavy? - [ Amarr Scrambler Sniper Rifle ] - infinite

- ug, should have picked something other than amarr, so many holes.... -

Caldari Assault - [ Rail rifle ] - Hives - 30 copies
Minmatar Logistics - MD - Rep tool - 30 copies
Gallente Assault - Plasma Cannon - 30 copies

In the end I think the big points to hammer home are covered by a mix of infinite and limited run fits, and providing them with a wide range of fits, letting them see some of the more exotic weapons. Make sure they have long and close range fits. Make sure they have armor and shield tanked fits.

Obviously you all didn't think it was that boring cause you're still playing Dust.

Obviously you all didn't think it was that boring cause you're still playing Dust.

Much of what makes the game interesting and fun are the variety of dropsuit types, equipment, and the weapon selection. New players starting out with their starter fits will miss out completely on the light suits, heavy suits, mass drivers, laser rifles, scrambler rifles, active scanners, remote explosives, repair tool, etc. The starter fits only show the most generic options like AR assault, sniper, medic, and anti-tank; all of which are only using medium frame suits.

The first few battles will decide whether or not new players will stick with Dust, or quit the game, so why not try to impress the new players with Dust's unique selection instead of just showing them the generic stuff? Sure they could just go buy new suits and weapons in the militia section, but not all weapons have militia versions, and expecting new players to explore the market instead of jumping in a battle is pretty ridiculous considering most don't have the patience to do the tutorials. It is your job to make them find the game appealing, they shouldn't have to look through a bunch of menus and upgrade a bunch of skills to find good things about the game; most won't have the patience for that anyway.

The solution is to create militia versions of all weapons and equipment (militia MD for example can have 4 rounds), and have that variety of militia weapons and equipment present in the starter fits. Include lights and heavies as well in the starter fits. Example of possible militia presets in starter fits:

Light + shotgun + active scanner

Medium + scrambler rifle + nanite injector

Heavy + forge gun + SMG

light + swarm launcher + remote explosive

Medium + mass driver + repair tool

Heavy + HMG

Medium + laser rifle + nanohive

Which would you rather new players say: "Oh, an assault rifle like every other shooter, okay I guess..." or "OMG! I have a freaking gun made of gold that shoots lasers! AWESOME!"? Do yourself a favor, and and make your starter fits more interesting.

EDIT: Also it would help new players figure out what they like, and thus what they should skill into.

EDIT2: Having all but one of starter fits made of DEPLETABLE militia items will teach the players to restock, and to understand the finite nature of items in Dust. Would also protect the value of AUR BPOs.

The only thing i would add is to make suits unlimited UNTIL they get out of academy. Then like a stack of 20 or so each.

Much of what makes the game interesting and fun are the variety of dropsuit types, equipment, and the weapon selection. New players starting out with their starter fits will miss out completely on the light suits, heavy suits, mass drivers, laser rifles, scrambler rifles, active scanners, remote explosives, repair tool, etc. The starter fits only show the most generic options like AR assault, sniper, medic, and anti-tank; all of which are only using medium frame suits.

The first few battles will decide whether or not new players will stick with Dust, or quit the game, so why not try to impress the new players with Dust's unique selection instead of just showing them the generic stuff? Sure they could just go buy new suits and weapons in the militia section, but not all weapons have militia versions, and expecting new players to explore the market instead of jumping in a battle is pretty ridiculous considering most don't have the patience to do the tutorials. It is your job to make them find the game appealing, they shouldn't have to look through a bunch of menus and upgrade a bunch of skills to find good things about the game; most won't have the patience for that anyway.

The solution is to create militia versions of all weapons and equipment (militia MD for example can have 4 rounds), and have that variety of militia weapons and equipment present in the starter fits. Include lights and heavies as well in the starter fits. Example of possible militia presets in starter fits:

Light + shotgun + active scanner

Medium + scrambler rifle + nanite injector

Heavy + forge gun + SMG

light + swarm launcher + remote explosive

Medium + mass driver + repair tool

Heavy + HMG

Medium + laser rifle + nanohive

Which would you rather new players say: "Oh, an assault rifle like every other shooter, okay I guess..." or "OMG! I have a freaking gun made of gold that shoots lasers! AWESOME!"? Do yourself a favor, and and make your starter fits more interesting.

EDIT: Also it would help new players figure out what they like, and thus what they should skill into.

EDIT2: Having all but one of starter fits made of DEPLETABLE militia items will teach the players to restock, and to understand the finite nature of items in Dust. Would also protect the value of AUR BPOs.

More starting fits would be great for new players. However, I think they should start with these fits:

• Assault + scrambler rifle + scrambler pistol + nanohive
• Assault + swarm launcher + SMG
• Assault + mass driver + flaylock pistol
• Commando + scrambler rifle + assault rifle
• Logistics + assault rifle + repair tool + nanite injector + drop uplink
• Scout + shotgun + active scanner
• Scout + sniper rifle
• Sentinel + HMG
• Sentinel + forge gun + SMG

Everything except commando and logistics

Points for racism! (I should add that I think people with pre-Dust-Launch characters should be offered at least a one-time chance to change their race and associated starter-fit availability... or the latter if nothing else).

I think racial variety would be great, especially in the context of differentiating possible roles for the given races out of the gate. There's some problems here in that there is a decided lack of racial variety in Heavy and Light suits (and some missing weapons). So, I'll just make up stuff:


Amarr Assault
1x MLT DMG Mod
1x MLT High Slot Armor Hardener Mod that doesn't exist yet
1x MLT Scrambler Rifle
1x MLT Scrambler Pistol
1x MLT Grenade

Minmatar Assault
1x MLT Shield Extender
1x MLT Shield Recharger
1x MLT Cardio Regulator
1x MLT Combat Rifle doesn't exist
1x MLT Flaylock Pistol doesn't exist

Caldari Assault
1x MLT Shield Extender
1x MLT Shield Extender
1x MLT Shield Regulator
1x MLT Rail Rifle doesn't exist
1x MLT Bolt Pistol doesn't exist
1x MLT Flux Grenade doesn't exist

Gallente Assault
1x MLT Armor Repairer
1x MLT Armor Repairer
1x MLT Armor Plates
1x MLT Plasma Rifle
1x MLT Ion Pistol doesn't exist
1x MLT Grenade

I'd echo the idea of more interesting role suits as well. Pre-uprising you could actually have a little BPO fit for Logistics/Heavy because you chose that when you made your character. It's comparably much more difficult to try out logistics now than it was then (Heavy MLT suits are relatively cheap though). It gets harder to guess the other racial fits with the lack of information we have:

Gallente Heavy
1x MLT Plasma Thrower
1x MLT Burst Ion Pistol

Amarr Heavy
1x MLT Gatling Laser/1x Heavy Laser
1x MLT Burst Scrambler SMG

Minmatar Heavy
1x MLT HMG
1x MLT SMG

Caldari Heavy
1x MLT Forge Gun
1x MLT Magsec SMG

So, I suppose there's issues here of a lack of MLT variants, racial differentiation, old players being stuck with prior racial choices, and uninviting variety in the early suit types.

Nice list you got there. Also, flux grenades exist already.

Do Militia Flux exist?

Also the Gallente should get the flux grenades since they were made by them; they look Gallente and are green. Also what about giving the Caldari AV-grenades since those are Caldari designed.

Edit: The Minmatar should get the MLT grenades and the Amarr should get some kind of Amarrian grenade, maybe a stasis Webifier.