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Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:23:00 -
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So let's pretend for a moment that dust let players control their own servers...
What kind of settings would you choose?
Here's an example form to give you an idea or two. Go ahead and copy / paste this form and fill it out or create your own. Be creative!
Final note: I know, personally, I'd love to offer a huge playlist of maps; but for the sake of making this easier, lets just pretend its one map only and if you want to go through the trouble of listing several maps with unique options on each... go right ahead. :D
*Server info sv_name="My Dust514 Server" sv_motd="My message of the day"
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= ambush /skirmish / domination sv_factionwarfare= on / off determines if the server shows up under and affects FW sv_map= manus peak(1) / ashland(2) / skim junction(3) / iron delta(4) / line harvest(5) / spine crescent(6) sv_clonecount= # sv_time= # minutes, 0 for infinite sv_teamsize= # 1-16 sv_objectives= # of capture points sv_objectivespawn= on / off allows players to spawn on objectives sv_orbitalstrike= on / off sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= # of war points needed for orbital strike sv_installations= on/ off sv_vehicles= on / off sv_rewards= on /off ISK and SP rewards at the end of the match sv_friendlyfire= on / off sv_tkautokick= # team kills to kick sv_autokick= # minutes of inactivity sv_autoban= # of kicks sv_maxping= #
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= militia / standard / advanced / prototype sv_maxtechlevel= militia / standard / advanced / prototype sv_minimumskillpoints= # 0 for infinite sv_maxskillpoints= # 0 for infinite sv_amarrtech= on / off sv_caldaritech= on /off sv_gallentetech= on / off sv_minmatartech= on / off sv_teamscramble= on / off scrambles teams between games sv_autobalance= on/off moves random player to other team if teams become imbalanced sv_premadesquads= on / off allows pre-made squads to join the server
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= on / off sv_sniperrifle= on / off sv_swarmlauncher= on / off sv_massdriver= on / off sv_laserrifle= on / off sv_shotgun= on / off sv_scramblerrifle= on / off sv_plasmacannon= on / off sv_submachinegun= on / off sv_scramblerpistol= on / off sv_novaknife= on / off sv_flaylockpistol= on / off sv_forgegun= on / off sv_heavymachinegun= on / off sv_locusgrenade= on / off sv_antivehiclegrenade= on / off sv_fluxgrenade= on / off sv_remoteexplosive= on / off sv_melee= on / off
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on / off sv_lav= on / off sv_dropship= on / off sv_enforcerhav= on / off sv_logisticlav= on / off sv_scoutlav= on / off sv_logisticdropship= on / off sv_assaultdropship= on / off |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
190
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:23:00 -
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*Server info sv_name="Laz's 24/7 Domination" sv_motd="Dominate all day, everyday"
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= domination sv_factionwarfare= on sv_map= spine crescent(6) sv_clonecount= 300 sv_time= 0 sv_teamsize= 16 sv_objectives= 1 sv_objectivespawn= off sv_orbitalstrike= on sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= 5000 sv_installations= off sv_vehicles= on sv_rewards= on sv_friendlyfire= on sv_tkautokick= 5 sv_autokick= 3 sv_autoban= 2 sv_maxping= 175
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= advanced sv_maxtechlevel= prototype sv_minimumskillpoints= 7000000 sv_maxskillpoints= 0 sv_amarrtech= on sv_caldaritech= on sv_gallentetech= on sv_minmatartech= on sv_teamscramble= on sv_autobalance= off sv_premadesquads= on
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= on sv_sniperrifle= off sv_swarmlauncher= on sv_massdriver= on sv_laserrifle= on sv_shotgun= on sv_scramblerrifle= on sv_plasmacannon= on sv_submachinegun= on sv_scramblerpistol= on sv_novaknife= on sv_flaylockpistol= on sv_forgegun= on sv_heavymachinegun= on sv_locusgrenade= on sv_antivehiclegrenade= on sv_fluxgrenade= on sv_remoteexplosive= on sv_melee= on
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on sv_lav= on sv_dropship= off sv_enforcerhav= on sv_logisticlav= off sv_scoutlav= on sv_logisticdropship= off sv_assaultdropship= off |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
236
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:24:00 -
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This...would get so abused. You just KNOW people would cheat the system and get 10,000,000,000 SP and ISK per game. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1874
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:27:00 -
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This is a bad idea. It would just be servers where people would make it easy to farm. I.E.
Tankers would take, out all AV weapons and kill infantry non stop. Then when another tanker showed up they could just boot them.
Also, we are all on the Tranquility server. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
415
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:30:00 -
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You would leave dropships compeltely out? Go back to COD man, that's just gross. |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
190
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:31:00 -
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Yes I know people could farm and play the system, I'm more interested in what people most want in regards to settings. This is more about what would make the current gamemodes more fun and not about actually owning a server.
Note: I presented this thread this way because it is a familiar format that is easy for people to participate in, again I don't actually want custom servers in game, I just want more variety in gamemodes. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
726
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:31:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:This is a bad idea. It would just be servers where people would make it easy to farm. I.E.
Tankers would take, out all AV weapons and kill infantry non stop. Then when another tanker showed up they could just boot them.
Also, we are all on the Tranquility server. It's not even an idea. It's a hypothetical from someone obviously involved in previous player-served gaming. Will never happen due to the nature of this game. Please don't freak people out. lol |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3602
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:32:00 -
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Private servers will never happen. Ever. Everything is managed, controlled, calculated, and verified by the central server which only CCP controls. This hypothetical discussion you brought up is pointless. |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
16
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:40:00 -
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Please don't when BF3 had those the game was ruined for me |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
190
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:44:00 -
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Lol so many people missed the point, I changed the thread title now for clarity. |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3602
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:47:00 -
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One more thing.
Private servers are a breeding ground for lag switchers, which is why we have to rely on a centralized server instead. The central server cross references data to ensure that any information received by the server from the client is consistent with what the server sees. This prevents lag switchers and hackers from ever having any effect on the game. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3602
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:48:00 -
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Laz Ulian Sol wrote:Lol so many people missed the point, I changed the thread title now for clarity.
Then why did you bring up private servers in the first place before you changed the title? Did you have any idea what kind of reaction that would invoke here in the DUST community? |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
190
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:49:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:One more thing.
Private servers are a breeding ground for lag switchers, which is why we have to rely on a centralized server instead. The central server cross references data to ensure that any information received by the server from the client is consistent with what the server sees. This prevents lag switchers and hackers from ever having any effect on the game.
Okay already, yes I know what you're saying. I know already...this is about getting input on what settings people would like to see. Overall, this is a way of seeing how to improve the gamemodes. I already changed the title, and already put disclaimers in the main post...what more do you want! |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
190
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Laz Ulian Sol wrote:Lol so many people missed the point, I changed the thread title now for clarity. Then why did you bring up private servers in the first place before you changed the title? Did you have any idea what kind of reaction that would invoke here in the DUST community?
To be honest I was looking to use a title that would draw attention...obviously worked better than I thought; but in the wrong way. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7371
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:51:00 -
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Server ownership will never be an option to where the owner will be granted admin privileges enough to alter the game settings Also I don't think its feasibly possible without having to replicate ALL other servers required from persona, sol, terra, CREST, the one that manages inventory of every spot in space bunch of other stupid little things.
Now design your own game mode however... is an entirely different suggestion. |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
147
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:52:00 -
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*Server info sv_name="PTFO and have fun" sv_motd="ANYTHING GOES!
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= ambush /skirmish / domination sv_factionwarfare= on sv_map=1-6 sv_clonecount= 500 sv_time= 30 sv_teamsize= 16 sv_objectives= 6 sv_objectivespawn= on sv_orbitalstrike= on sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= 4500 sv_installations= on sv_vehicles= on sv_rewards= ON! sv_friendlyfire= on sv_tkautokick= 5.5 (the half is if you accidentally get a kill assist from damaging team mates.) sv_autokick= 3 sv_autoban= n/a sv_maxping= 199
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= standard / advanced sv_maxtechlevel= standard / advanced sv_minimumskillpoints= 500,000 sv_maxskillpoints= 0 sv_amarrtech= on sv_caldaritech= on sv_gallentetech= on sv_minmatartech= on sv_teamscramble= on sv_autobalance= off sv_premadesquads= on (they might be on different teams though)
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= on sv_sniperrifle= on sv_swarmlauncher= on sv_massdriver= on sv_laserrifle= on sv_shotgun= on sv_scramblerrifle= on sv_plasmacannon= on sv_submachinegun= on sv_scramblerpistol= on sv_novaknife= on sv_flaylockpistol= on sv_forgegun= on sv_heavymachinegun=on sv_locusgrenade= on sv_antivehiclegrenade= on sv_fluxgrenade= on sv_remoteexplosive= on sv_melee= on
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on sv_lav= on sv_dropship= on sv_enforcerhav= on sv_logisticlav= on sv_scoutlav= on sv_logisticdropship= on sv_assaultdropship= on
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3017
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:53:00 -
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*Server info sv_name="My Dust514 Server" sv_motd="My message of the day"
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= skirmish sv_factionwarfare= off sv_map= skim junction(3) sv_clonecount= 200 sv_time= 0 sv_teamsize= 16 sv_objectives= 5 sv_objectivespawn= off sv_orbitalstrike= off sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= 0 sv_installations= on sv_vehicles= on sv_rewards= on sv_friendlyfire= on sv_tkautokick= 5 team kills to kick sv_autokick= 2 minutes of inactivity sv_autoban= 5 sv_maxping= 130
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= militia sv_maxtechlevel= militia / standard / advanced sv_minimumskillpoints= 0 sv_maxskillpoints= 0 sv_amarrtech= on sv_caldaritech= on sv_gallentetech= on sv_minmatartech= on sv_teamscramble= on sv_autobalance= on sv_premadesquads= off
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= off sv_sniperrifle= on sv_swarmlauncher= on sv_massdriver= on sv_laserrifle= on sv_shotgun= on sv_scramblerrifle= on sv_plasmacannon= on sv_submachinegun= on sv_scramblerpistol= on sv_novaknife= on sv_flaylockpistol= on sv_forgegun= on sv_heavymachinegun= on sv_locusgrenade= on sv_antivehiclegrenade= on sv_fluxgrenade= on sv_remoteexplosive= on sv_melee= on
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on sv_lav= sv_dropship= on sv_enforcerhav= on sv_logisticlav= off sv_scoutlav= on sv_logisticdropship= on sv_assaultdropship= on |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1014
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Posted - 2013.08.17 00:56:00 -
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Neat idea for a thread!
I could go through all the options, but my dream-mode on this game is quite simple.
Ambush non-OMS 80 clones No-squads No-vehicles No-orbitals (just in case players squad up after matching) Players from same corp are split up evenly across each team Supply-depot drops but no installations
Also for ambush I really hate the huge maps, wish they would have more maps that were smaller and more confined (but not too confined; some tight areas, some open areas). |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7373
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:04:00 -
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I would like a mode where every team gets 10 Armored CRUs, every CRU destroyed removed 10% of total clones. We can have an OMS version so a highly successful defending team would start getting stretched thin. |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
778
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Now design your own game mode however... is an entirely different suggestion.
This.
Whenever, personal/corp hangars and training rooms are introduced, we'll probably see options for limited customized game modes. |
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
462
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:27:00 -
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*Server info sv_name= Domination sv_motd= N/A
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= domination sv_factionwarfare= on sv_map= spine crescent(6) sv_clonecount= 300 sv_time= 0 sv_teamsize= 16 sv_objectives= 1 sv_objectivespawn= off sv_orbitalstrike= on sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= 3000 sv_installations= on sv_vehicles= on sv_rewards= on sv_friendlyfire= on sv_tkautokick= 5 sv_autokick= 3 sv_autoban= 2 sv_maxping= 175
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= advanced sv_maxtechlevel= prototype sv_minimumskillpoints= 7000000 sv_maxskillpoints= 0 sv_amarrtech= on sv_caldaritech= on sv_gallentetech= on sv_minmatartech= on sv_teamscramble= on sv_autobalance= off sv_premadesquads= on
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= on sv_sniperrifle= on sv_swarmlauncher= on sv_massdriver= on [exception(Freedom massdriver off)] sv_laserrifle= on sv_shotgun= on sv_scramblerrifle= on sv_plasmacannon= on sv_submachinegun= on sv_scramblerpistol= on sv_novaknife= on sv_flaylockpistol= on sv_forgegun= on [exception(Ishukone Assault FG= off)] sv_heavymachinegun= on sv_locusgrenade= on sv_antivehiclegrenade= on sv_fluxgrenade= on sv_remoteexplosive= on sv_melee= on
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on sv_lav= on sv_dropship= on sv_enforcerhav= on sv_logisticlav= off sv_scoutlav= on sv_logisticdropship= on sv_assaultdropship= on
**Team Quota Vehicle Restrictions and RDV Features sv_hav= 3 sv_lav= 3 sv_dropship= 3 sv_RDVpriority= Dropship> HAV> LAV
**Redline Restrictions sv_autokickinredline= on sv_ RLautokicktime= 2 |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
687
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:49:00 -
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Laz Ulian Sol wrote:Lol so many people missed the point, I changed the thread title now for clarity. Lol, sympathies Laz, It's like peeps refuse to actually read what you've written.
You've picked a great approach to allow peeps to express what kind of DUST they would like to play - peeps who can read and handle hypotheticals, that is.
+1. |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
192
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:50:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:**Team Quota Vehicle Restrictions and RDV Features sv_hav= 3 sv_lav= 3 sv_dropship= 3 sv_RDVpriority= Dropship> HAV> LAV
**Redline Restrictions sv_autokickinredline= on sv_ RLautokicktime= 2
These are cool attributes I didn't think of. So basically if you stay in your own redline for 2 minutes you're kicked? Interesting. |
JL3Eleven
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
604
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:04:00 -
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Laz Ulian Sol wrote:EDIT: This is about settings and what you would pick and not about actually getting player owned servers, lol
So let's pretend for a moment that dust let players control their own servers...
What kind of settings would you choose?
Here's an example form to give you an idea or two. Go ahead and copy / paste this form and fill it out or create your own. Be creative!
Final note: I know, personally, I'd love to offer a huge playlist of maps; but for the sake of making this easier, lets just pretend its one map only and if you want to go through the trouble of listing several maps with unique options on each... go right ahead. :D
*Server info sv_name="My Dust514 Server" sv_motd="My message of the day"
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= ambush /skirmish / domination sv_factionwarfare= on / off determines if the server shows up under and affects FW sv_map= manus peak(1) / ashland(2) / skim junction(3) / iron delta(4) / line harvest(5) / spine crescent(6) sv_clonecount= # sv_time= # minutes, 0 for infinite sv_teamsize= # 1-16 sv_objectives= # of capture points sv_objectivespawn= on / off allows players to spawn on objectives sv_orbitalstrike= on / off sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= # of war points needed for orbital strike sv_installations= on/ off sv_vehicles= on / off sv_rewards= on /off ISK and SP rewards at the end of the match sv_friendlyfire= on / off sv_tkautokick= # team kills to kick sv_autokick= # minutes of inactivity sv_autoban= # of kicks sv_maxping= #
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= militia / standard / advanced / prototype sv_maxtechlevel= militia / standard / advanced / prototype sv_minimumskillpoints= # 0 for infinite sv_maxskillpoints= # 0 for infinite sv_amarrtech= on / off sv_caldaritech= on /off sv_gallentetech= on / off sv_minmatartech= on / off sv_teamscramble= on / off scrambles teams between games sv_autobalance= on/off moves random player to other team if teams become imbalanced sv_premadesquads= on / off allows pre-made squads to join the server
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= on / off sv_sniperrifle= on / off sv_swarmlauncher= on / off sv_massdriver= on / off sv_laserrifle= on / off sv_shotgun= on / off sv_scramblerrifle= on / off sv_plasmacannon= on / off sv_submachinegun= on / off sv_scramblerpistol= on / off sv_novaknife= on / off sv_flaylockpistol= on / off sv_forgegun= on / off sv_heavymachinegun= on / off sv_locusgrenade= on / off sv_antivehiclegrenade= on / off sv_fluxgrenade= on / off sv_remoteexplosive= on / off sv_melee= on / off
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on / off sv_lav= on / off sv_dropship= on / off sv_enforcerhav= on / off sv_logisticlav= on / off sv_scoutlav= on / off sv_logisticdropship= on / off sv_assaultdropship= on / off
NERD!!!! :p |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
87
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:27:00 -
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sp min= 10
Vehicles= hell to the no
Map type= Close Quarters
Dropsuit Speed Bonus Modifier= at x1 .20%
HMG Damage Modifier = x 1.50
Explosives Damage Modifier = .80 (Nerfed)
Idiot teamates= (no)/yes |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
194
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:07:00 -
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Again, I like the ones I didn't think of.
Changing weapon damage and movement speed would change the game so much.
I'd probably try a mode where all the weapons are a quarter as strong. It would be very hard for anyone to get a kill and would make things more interesting as far as trying to take an objective. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
867
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:24:00 -
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*Server info sv_name="Skirmish 24/7 sv_motd="Skim all day, everyday"
*Gamemode sv_gamemode= skirmish sv_factionwarfare= off sv_map= either that 4pt one like in chromosome with 4 obj in a square sorta or the other 4pt one or maybe a 5pt one thrown in for a bit of random sv_clonecount= 1000 sv_time= 0 sv_teamsize= 16 sv_objectives= 4/5 sv_objectivespawn= off sv_orbitalstrike= off sv_orbitalstrikewarpoints= n/a sv_installations= on sv_vehicles= on sv_rewards= on sv_friendlyfire= off sv_tkautokick= n/a sv_autokick= 3 sv_autoban= 2 sv_maxping= 175
*Rules **Balance sv_mintechlevel= basic sv_maxtechlevel= prototype sv_minimumskillpoints= 0 sv_maxskillpoints= 0 sv_amarrtech= on sv_caldaritech= on sv_gallentetech= on sv_minmatartech= on sv_teamscramble= on sv_autobalance= on sv_premadesquads= on
**Allowed weapons sv_assaultrifle= on sv_sniperrifle= on sv_swarmlauncher= off sv_massdriver= off sv_laserrifle= on sv_shotgun= on sv_scramblerrifle= on sv_plasmacannon= on sv_submachinegun= on sv_scramblerpistol= on sv_novaknife= on sv_flaylockpistol= on sv_forgegun= on sv_heavymachinegun= on sv_locusgrenade= on sv_antivehiclegrenade= off sv_fluxgrenade= on sv_remoteexplosive= on sv_melee= on
**Allowed vehicles sv_hav= on sv_lav= on sv_dropship= on sv_enforcerhav= on sv_logisticlav= off sv_scoutlav= on sv_logisticdropship= on sv_assaultdropship= on
Basically no crutches allowed, swarms and av not on, if you cant aim you will die lol
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
829
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:37:00 -
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Aside from all the idiots who didn't understand the intent of this post it has some great potential. Keep at it Laz, you're gonna have the coo coo's who want to leave vehicles in but remove av nades and swarms (obviously haven't tired killing a charbdis on manus peak where you just drive in circles around the mountain by charlie all the way past bravo mowing people in the vicinity.
I gotta match here in ten minutes, but after that I'l be back to give ya my preference for a game mode. |
Laz Ulian Sol
The Solecism of Limitation
196
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Posted - 2013.08.17 21:09:00 -
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So far, of the people that have given their own gamemode, people are tending towards making orbitals harder to get or gone entirely. Also most have opted for friendly fire being on and to have teamkills autokick you. Inactivity kicks are popular so far too.
I'd love to see more ideas, I'm sure there are some great ones just waiting to be posted.
What about gamemodes for squad vs squad? |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
145
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Posted - 2013.08.17 21:32:00 -
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too many options is NEVER a good thing for MP games
you will end up with a few types of matches with ******** settings that wont make any sense but to the twisted mind of the host
take a look in this forum and you will see lots of silly ideeas that make no sense
selfish will always win , thats why we need control from neutral side
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