whats dual tanking?

When shield mommy and armor daddy love each other very very much...

whats dual tanking?

When shield mommy and armor daddy love each other very very much...

LOL


its when a player uses both shield and armor modules to increase their hp.

so we have to fight naked because someone cant aim?

Then what happens?

EDIT: and why do shields have to play the mommy?

It's the reason why medium frames can push to the same eHP as a heavy, and a scout feeling like he's taking on a wall that is not that much slower than him.

Dual tanking needs to be eliminated, so that medium frames aren't pushed above and beyond what they're supposed to be.

Put those damn penalties on shields.

Don't wait for 1.5, because with the reduced penalties on armor and increased HP, all the medium frames will now go bezerk with huge amounts of eHP, with no real downsides.


If you have the penalty on shields, that means a dual tanker has two sets of downsides, rather than one.
Making the suit, theoretically capable, a mess on the battlefield.


Edit:
For those that don't know, CCP is waiting for 1.5 before adding a penalty on shields.
The penalty is increased recharge delay for shield extenders.

As a duel tanking heavy i say HTFU

Call Of Duty Calls You Go

So not wanting suits to be pushed way above their intended eHP = Call of Duty?
Logic not found.

Not necessarily. Every suit will be affected positively by this buff not just the Gallente.

Here is a number crunched Assault ck.0 and a Assault gk.0 done with all skills level 5.

Assault ck.0

2x Complex Shield extenders
2x Complex Light damage modifiers
2x Enhanced Armor plates
1x Complex Armor repairer



CPU- 309/394
PG- 63/79
Shield- 408
Armor- 392
EHP- 800
Shield Recharge Rate- 31.25
Shield Delay- 5
Shield Depleted Delay- 8
Armor Repair Rate- 6.25
Movement- 4.72
Sprint- 6.94

Assault gk.0

1x Complex Shield extender
2x Complex Light damage modifiers
3x Enhanced Armor plates
1x Complex Armor repairer

CPU- 275/394
PG- 58/79
Shield- 223
Armor- 625
EHP- 848
Shield Recharge Rate- 25
Shield Delay- 7
Shield Depleted Delay- 10
Armor Repair Rate- 6.25
Movement- 4.64
Sprint- 6.82

Conclusion, the GK.0 has 48 more HP but less CPU/PG restrictions. The speed difference between both these suits is 1.7%, while each suit is being penalized 5.6% and 7.8% respectively. The GK.0 has a way slower over all repair in HP, especially with the bulk of his HP being in armor. Also keep in mind the majority of weapons that are to come will be anti armor and all burst damage weapons are anti armor, therefore shields are more resistant to damage than armor thus their overall HP is higher than what you can see numerically.

1.4 is Dropsuit balance, and it is a big patch so I assume that CCP has done some dropsuit side tweaking, that we haven't been shown yet, to balance what I have stated above.

Give me something more compelling to put in the highs as a logi and I'll think about not dual tanking. But I don't need damage mods to do my job.

Logic not found because you avoid it

CoD has no dropsuits , items ala Dust

some people

whats dual tanking?

You know there are other things other than HP mods...
I want those to become more popular, rather than everyone and their mother stacking HP mods, because that's boring.

its when a player uses both shield and armor modules to increase their hp.

so YOU want people to suit YOUR play style

why?

what makes you so special?

who are you to impose what people should use to play?

srsly how old are you?

i hope you a kid , otherwise shame on you living that long...

whats dual tanking?

so YOU want people to suit YOUR play style

why?

what makes you so special?

who are you to impose what people should use to play?

srsly how old are you?

i hope you a kid , otherwise shame on you living that long...

i think he is referring to suits running armor and shield modules medium frames...well the caldari is shield i do'nt think it really has the resources to have an effective shield while armor tanking...the amarian is a dual tank type to begin with gallente can run shields but the shields don't compare to that of a caldaris. theyy are a mockery and min suits have **** for hp and are speedy...this is how dust is...heavies have been nerfed to oblivion and are slowly being buffed back up...armor tanking is being redone ass are the racial bonuses. lav collision is being nerfed do none of you cry babies keep up with current events. besides heavy suits have forge gun and as a forge gun user i know how price effective they are forge gun is one of the cheapest ways to run dust accessible to only heavies. so what if hmg running sucks for u atm grab your forge and wait for ccp to fix things stop flooding the forums with tears.

Something I said in another thread.

The Shield suit is still vastly superior to the GK.0 with higher speed, more resistance to all forms of damage types, snd higher overall repair.

EDIT: Adding the penalty will just make suits switch to Armor tanking because people assume high numbers is always better Trust me on this that 500 shields is more useful than 500 armor.

Ways to force suits not to dual tank:

- Remove a low from Caldari suits
- Nerf the Armor HP of Caldari suits buff their Shield HP
Nerf shield HP of Gallente suits Buff their Armor HP (But make their Armor HP higher than the Shield HP of Caldari suits)
- Fitting restrictions per suit, force Caldari suits to not use more than 2 armor modules, force Gallente suits to not use more than 2 shield modules.
- ETC ETC

I have purposely made these extremely brutal and penalizing ^