I mean it could have the ammo size of a HMG but a slightly more powerful attack power (But not too much)

Nonono, not more damage than the HMG I meant damage that is more than the AR but lower than the HMG.

I'm sorry I worded that wrong. I meant in between the HMG and AR.

Or same damage as AR just longer range and huge clip.


But if course I didn't mean stronger than HMG

My suggestion was going to be like yours but I worded everything in this topic wrong.

The gun would be like this:
Slightly more damaging than the AR
Fire rate is equal to the AR Breach
Slower than AR reload by half
Recoil - Medium/High
Range - a LITTlE bit longer than AR
Can be weilded by medium and heavy, except for Scouts/light


Again, I am very sorry I worded that wrong.

I'd be all for a LMG but make it like a BAR with an extremely small magazine a moderately high RoF and damage inbetween a HMG and a AR. Additionally it should have a movement penalty if used by a non-heavy frame.

Minmatar LMG
Rate of Fire: 650 rpm
Max Ammo: 140 rounds
Magazine Size: 20 rounds
Damage: 35-37 (basic to proto)
Speed reduction by non-heavy frame: 5%
Weapon climb if not used by a heavy frame: 1.5-¦ climb per round shot in a burst
Dispersion Cone approximately like that of the HMG when fired by a light or med frame (AR like when fired by a heavy frame)
Range Optimal: 35m
Range Effective: 85m
Range Maximum: 175m
Damage vs shields: 100%
Damage vs armor: 110%
CPU: 45-110 (basic to proto)
PG: 5 - 10 (basic to proto)
Reload time: 6 sec.

That would be cool to have an LMG but I don't understand to be more damage than an AR but lower than HMG. Heavy gun standard does 14-17 depending on variant while proto guns are just under 20 per bullet. I think the RoF should be SMG level but obviously a more effective range and 100 round clip is decent. However, i don't think this is feasible let the heavy have the freaking mini gun. That is their job, not us medium suits. A gun like this would put the mini gun to shame in this game.

You don't think the barrel climb and movement penalties for medium frames included in my version are a good enough balace for the weapon? What about the small magazine?

The magazine I proposed is a bit small, only 700 damage per mag. I will alter the original post to have the weapon hold 50 rounds in a mag and 300 max. with an 8 sec. reload time. This will alter the weapon's damage profile to be 1750 per mag at standard level.

Well was thinking for a while now in this game and about it's weapon classes.

How about adding a LMG (Light Machine Gun) to the game? I mean it could fill the gap between AR and HMG. And instead of the heavies always getting the big guns, why not let the mediums get a big gun themselves?

I mean it could have the ammo size of a HMG but a slightly more powerful attack power (But not too much)

Could be used for suppressing fire or something.

I dunno, just had a suggestion but wanted to share it.

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Simlpe a Big AR with more bullets and higher DPS bur much less accurate
( oviosly less DPS then a HMG )

im in favor of adding a 'medium wepons class in there cus i dont think shoulder mounted canons(ie swarm and plasma ) should be light wepons

Exactly, some of the weapons for medium class are ridiculous. Such as the swarm and plasma, as you mentioned. It just doesent seem to fit the size for the mediums as much as they fit for heavy.

So that's why I'm suggesting another kind of weapon. A 'brother' to the AR and HMG, the LMG. For medium and heavy.

So, Rename the AR the Plasma Repeater, Slightly Buff its damage, give it a Bipod, Buff the Recoil it has, and voila, you have a LMG.

I think that it would be ok.

Or you could take the less creative method used by the SMG, AR, HMG, and SR.
Just call it "Light Machine Gun"

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

As long as the sniper rifle remains a light weapon and the MD is bumped up to medium, I'm fine with this.
Lights don't need to be using those types of weapons anyway.

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I think the combat rifle best fits the description of the lmg since its has a bit more range then the ar more ammo and its a projectile weapon.

To have the LMG do more dmg then the HMG AND have the same clip would be OP as there would be no point in the HMG.
The idea of adding a LMG is a valid one but, as you can see, not all that popular
+1 for posting your suggestion as it is the only way CCP can learn what the ppl want.

Hmmm I suppose I can throw my 2ISK in the pot.

How about;
More Dmg then the AR
More ammo then the AR but less then the HMG
Wild recoil (even with operations lv 5) so even with it's high DPS it is hard to actually hit the target.
Slower fire rate the AR (Default would be about equal to the Breach AR)
Very slow reload (still faster then the HMG though)

Has a lot of bullets and deals damage but the balance is it's slow reload and the fact that hitting the target very difficult. Spraying wildly at a group of enemies could easily disperse them as just a few shots will do them in and they wouldn't want to give you an easy shot.

Eh... that's all I got. Thnx again for the thread.

Better idea for that. Wild recoil but has the choice for a bipod/monopod to be used in crouch. Can be a cool, futuristic telescopic rod that extends to the ground.

So a futuristic version of the Battlefield 3 LMG's?

I think this should work exactly like a hmg accept it should do more damage and longer range but be deployable causing the person to be immobile.