Both load outs have a few things in common; Both set-ups tend to suffer at the hands on Mass Drivers for one reason or another, either they're low health (mobile) or low speed (armour) works against them and Mass Drivers, being explosive, are very effective against armour. So once those shields go, the Heavy'll go in less than a clip. Worse, you can't be revived.

Another shared problem is the reload on the HMG; if you have to reload in a firefight, you can kiss your clone goodbye. The reload on the HMG, unless you max out the reload skill with a Proto Sentinel, is ridiculously slow.

Nothing makes you smile like getting a direct hit on an Assault charging you down.

I would agree, but as of last week I can name two things that satisfy more;

1. Clearing out 3 reds on a hack point then immediately moving to the nearby uplink and clearing out the 4 reds readying to push the same hack point with my AFG at ground level. Felt badass even if I am not

2. Sending an attacking Scout into oblivion mid leap with my AFG.

Back on topic, getting Biotics up to level 5 gives heavies a 5.3 sprint speed without Kin Cats. Makes quite a difference. Can't wait for the armour buff on Monday to see how much difference it makes to the mobility of a tanked heavy.

Given your playstyle, a mixed set-up of Plates and Cardiac Regulators would probably suit you well.

Thanks; speaking of armor reps, I've been looking into how skill level affects their total rate, and with my maxed out skill I can stack two advanced armor reps and the total rate is as if I have 3 equipped. With maxing the skill out I have a Sentinel with with a repair rate of 12, assuming I stack two proto reps. Now I'm looking into the bonus with plates, especially with reactive plates; if a repairing bonus and armor bonus both apply then maybe its stats become somewhat decent.

Movement
* Removed rotation modifier on heavy frames - all frames can now rotate at the same speed

Modules/Equipment
* Adjusted Armor Plate attributes - HP bonus of 85/110/135 (Basic/Enhanced/Complex) and speed penalties of 2%/3%/5% (with full skill bonuses this equates to 93.5/121/148.5)
* Adjusted Ferroscale Plate attributes - HP bonus of 35/50/75 (with full skill bonuses this equates to 38.5/55/82.5)
* Adjusted Reactive Plate attributes - HP bonus of 25/40/60 and speed penalties of 0%/1%/1% (with full skill bonuses this equates to 27.5/44/66)

Skills
* All handheld weapon reload skills now have a cost multiplier of x3 (down from x6) and their skill book ISK price reduced to 203,000 from 774,000
* All heavy weapon reload skills now provide a 5% bonus, up from 3%
* The Forge Gun, Mass Driver, Swarm Launcher, and Plasma Cannon ammo skills now provide 1 extra unit of ammo for each level of the skill (for a maximum of 5) instead of a % bonus per level
* The HMG Operation skill bonus has been changed from reducing heat build-up to reducing recoil by 5% per level

Back on topic, getting Biotics up to level 5 gives heavies a 5.3 sprint speed without Kin Cats.

Mega, I think he means the core Biotics skill.

GET ATMESON, you make a good point. If I had the SP to throw around, I'd give your build a try.
However, I don't think I'd be able to give up my Complex Armor Repairer. I'd probably have to run Cardreg, Kincat, and Repper for my 3 lows.
I'd really like to see how your fit performs in-game. I bet it's awesome to watch

As for the patch, I'm really not excited about the changes to the HMG Operation skill. Recoil is not an issue. Bullet spread is. You can mitage 100% of recoil by feathering R1 (firing until the reticle starts to shake, then letting go and re-pressing R1 super fast resets the recoil buildup).
I am, however, rather interested in reload skills. They've been pretty useless up until now, but with the reduced SP cost and increased bonus, you should be able to lower your 8 second reload to something like 5 seconds. Could be interesting.

Sorry to take this thread away from its original purpose, but I just can't stop myself once I start talking Heavy

No problem Bears; it's awesome to see where these conversations can go. I'm also really interested in ATMESON's build and would love to try it out. If only I didn't need to invest in my PG skill...

All it takes is PG lvl 3. If you use my build just remember who help you got the idea from :)

While the fitting is certainly interesting, and plays well to a Basic suits strengths, I'll be sticking to my high eHP fat suit. It lets me do my job better in my squad.

1. Moves faster for PC. PC battles are always changing.
2. You'll have the DPS
3. Can run from CORE's (saves my butt alot)
4. I'm not a slow moving target.
5. Every complex plate only adds 5 bullets. An AR shoots 5 in about .6 seconds.

Yes having alot of EHP is nice for your squad to suck points of you but you cant move fast enough to get out of the way of the Core's killing you. When a 3-5 people are shooting at you the armor repair cant keep up if its just 1 logy healing you with the core repair. If you can run from that group of players you can run back to get healed. This prevents the logy or logy's from being killed.

Me personally I didn't like the EHP build. To many nades and with them doing +20% explosive damage to me it was poop(for nice words) I might give it a try again because the armor pen's have been lowered. Might just remove green battery and put a plate there insted

Been testing the 'new' Plates on my Heavy and my Alt's Logi suits and I have to say, the difference in speed is very noticeable.

I'd still recommend a Ferroscale Plate for anyone looking to maintain their mobility while getting a little more HP, since the speed drop might mean more to you than to me.

To be honest, if you aren't going to use a plain armor plate, then I probably wouldn't use any at all. Even a complex Ferroscale plate will only give you 66 armor. That's about 2 militia AR bullets (without damage mods).
At that rate, it might be more worth your SP, CPU, and PG to fit something like a Cardiac Regulator, Armor Repairer, or maybe even a Shield Regulator.