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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:06:00 -
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Arirana, of Ancient Exiles, was running around today with what looked like the RE out melee killing folks in seconds. He was getting approximately 3 hits (melee only mind you) per second, which from what I can tell is not actually possilbe, at least with a DS3.
Everyone in the squad tried melee attacking as quickly as they could with the DS3 and various weapons and equipment. None of us was able to match the speed Arirana was attacking at. The only thing that we could think of was that he was using a scout suit and maybe they can melee faster. This seems like a bug at best, and some sort of KBM exploit at worst. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:17:00 -
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turbo controller or mouse set up, melee and stamina mods |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
555
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:29:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Arirana, of Ancient Exiles, was running around today with what looked like the RE out melee killing folks in seconds. He was getting approximately 3 hits (melee only mind you) per second, which from what I can tell is not actually possilbe, at least with a DS3.
Everyone in the squad tried melee attacking as quickly as they could with the DS3 and various weapons and equipment. None of us was able to match the speed Arirana was attacking at. The only thing that we could think of was that he was using a scout suit and maybe they can melee faster. This seems like a bug at best, and some sort of KBM exploit at worst.
FYI:
Arirana is not a Scout.
Related:
I was insta-killed by a medium's melee on two occasions today.
Not as a "finisher" ... my Adv Scout had full armor/shields.
Not as a combo ... a single elbow smack with what appeared to be AR in hand.
Investigation:
So a medium suits deal 110 base melee damage.
And Complex Mayo for +50%.
I can't conceive of a loadout that'd deal 400 damage.
Question:
I admit it was kinda embarrassing since I was wielding a shotgun at the time.
But I'm not crying foul, or bug, or glitch. I'm simply curious ...
How does someone deal massive melee damage without Nova Knives?
- Shotty GoBang |
GetShotUp
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
235
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:11:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Arirana, of Ancient Exiles, was running around today with what looked like the RE out melee killing folks in seconds. He was getting approximately 3 hits (melee only mind you) per second, which from what I can tell is not actually possilbe, at least with a DS3.
Everyone in the squad tried melee attacking as quickly as they could with the DS3 and various weapons and equipment. None of us was able to match the speed Arirana was attacking at. The only thing that we could think of was that he was using a scout suit and maybe they can melee faster. This seems like a bug at best, and some sort of KBM exploit at worst. FYI: Arirana is not a Scout. She runs a Medium Frame.
No, FYI! Ariana is a dude lol
had to |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
957
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:46:00 -
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With 5 of those Myo pill things, you can stack over 600 melee damage.
Btw this fast melee happens when you hit the melee button, then sprint for like less then half a second which in turn causes the melee animation to be cancelled, but still do damage. Rinse and repeat until out of stamina |
Traky78
What The French
CRONOS.
203
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:34:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101809&find=unread
Here is the explanation of this bug |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
474
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:19:00 -
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Traky78 wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101809&find=unread
Here is the explanation of this bug
Holy Cow. Will test to confirm. |
Traky78
What The French
CRONOS.
204
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:22:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Traky78 wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101809&find=unread
Here is the explanation of this bug Holy Cow. Will test to confirm.
Tested multi time since 3 days... Its just kitten amazing |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
480
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:16:00 -
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Yep. I've confirmed it as well. This is definitely an exploit and needs to be addressed. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
249
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:04:00 -
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It's really easy to exploit this. Ari topped kills in our PC matches by just running around with an active scanner and insta-gibbing anyone with the melee. The "cooldown" for melee is reset every time you press sprint, which to me seems to not be intended but Ari seems to be trying to justify it as something that CCP may be intending.
If we could get some confirmation from CCP about this because it's ruining PC. You can't win any CQC situation because you get instantly killed in every case. I can understand people exploiting in pub matches but these kinda of things should not be used in PC matches. I talked to Ari about it and he has no remorse about it and said he will conti us to so it.
For anyone else wanting to try it, you simply melee-sprint-melee-sprint in rapid succession. The melee lock-on mechanic makes it really easy to land all the hits and you can even take down heavy's if you have cardiac regulators. Maybe if more people start abusing it it will get fixed sooner, cause our corp is sure as hell sick of it. |
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
577
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:55:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote: I talked to Ari about it and he has no remorse about it and said he will conti us to so it.
I'm glad you talked to him about it, and it really is too bad that he doesn't recognize it as a broken mechanic. Identifying and testing a mechanic to make sure it is broken is one thing but manipulating it to win battles, pc or otherwise, is unconscionable. Perhaps its just me but I feel like we need to help make the game fun for everyone buy not exploiting the games flaws and, while I know it isn't CCP's way, consequences should be handed down upon those who ruin the fun of others in such a manner.
As for now I think the best we can do with the likes of Ari is remember that they are exploiting a bug and not let them live it down. We have done this with WARRIORS INC; no one will forget those cheaters, and we shall do it with others. Social ostracism may be the best punishment we can meter out as a community. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation
5
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:53:00 -
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Sprint to reset the melee motion. In theory reloading would do the same. Will check next time I'm on. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
600
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Posted - 2013.08.20 17:03:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Sprint to reset the melee motion. In theory reloading would do the same. Will check next time I'm on.
Doesn't work, but a nice thought. I routinely interrupt my reload sequence by sprinting prematurely. End up with an empty clip I'd expected to be full. Noob error on my part.  |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
627
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Posted - 2013.08.20 17:23:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Sprint to reset the melee motion. In theory reloading would do the same. Will check next time I'm on.
Yea don't do that. It won't work. |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.08.20 18:02:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Sprint to reset the melee motion. In theory reloading would do the same. Will check next time I'm on. Doesn't work, but a nice thought. I routinely interrupt my reload sequence by sprinting prematurely. End up with an empty clip I'd expected to be full. Noob error on my part.
This totally does work in a way- you can cancel ~80-90% through any reload animation. It's especially easy (or, has an easy visual cue) with ARs- after your character "taps" the clip in, but before your character lowers the rifle, you can cancel and still have a properly reloaded clip. It's not a huge difference, but it's equivalent to a few levels of rapid reload skills.
On the melee exploit- Arirana and a few other Ancient Exiles members have been abusing this all day protostomping pubs. FFS- being overgeared and over SP'd isn't enough, so they use obvious exploits to add insult to injury? They were going to win anyway...  |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
106
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:40:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:It's really easy to exploit this. Ari topped kills in our PC matches by just running around with an active scanner and insta-gibbing anyone with the melee. The "cooldown" for melee is reset every time you press sprint, which to me seems to not be intended but Ari seems to be trying to justify it as something that CCP may be intending.
If we could get some confirmation from CCP about this because it's ruining PC. You can't win any CQC situation because you get instantly killed in every case. I can understand people exploiting in pub matches but these kinda of things should not be used in PC matches. I talked to Ari about it and he has no remorse about it and said he will continue to use it because he didnt want to "hold back" (not cheat) in PC.
For anyone else wanting to try it, you simply melee-sprint-melee-sprint in rapid succession. The melee lock-on mechanic makes it really easy to land all the hits and you can even take down heavy's if you have cardiac regulators. Maybe if more people start abusing it it will get fixed sooner, cause our corp is sure as hell sick of it.
Yes yes, Outer Haven / EON is sick of it, lets fix it quickly....
Don't fix it because its a bug, because they like the ones most people dont know about. Just fix the ones they are not good at using... |
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