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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:19:00 -
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I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:21:00 -
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Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:21:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:24:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons?
Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play.
-bazookah
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:26:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. -bazookah (HMG for life)
You mean hide at the top of the map unopposed and rain down one hit kills. The fact that you can hold the charge makes it even easier to kill with. Point, Wait, Click, Win. And there is nothing that can be done about it because they can't see you unless they are directly under you to see through the slats of the fencing on the buildings, which puts them right into your killzone. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:26:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons?
Did the enemy snipe you as you were up there? If not, then their tactics were UP. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:28:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons?
Did the enemy snipe you as you were up there? If not, then their tactics were UP.
Of course, but still didnt kill me, got reps for that. I'd pop out while holding a charge, pick a target, and waste it. The only time they could snipe me though was when I was on a structure that did not have a fence. |
Protocake JR
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:28:00 -
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As someone who sucks at sniping, it's easier for me to forge gun sniping than actually using a sniper to snipe. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:29:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. -bazookah (HMG for life) You mean hide at the top of the map unopposed and rain down one hit kills. The fact that you can hold the charge makes it even easier to kill with. Point, Wait, Click, Win. And there is nothing that can be done about it because they can't see you unless they are directly under you to see through the slats of the fencing on the buildings, which puts them right into your killzone.
A couple good snipers trained at on Forge gunner will make his life hell and he won't make his shots count. I know. I've tried.
-bazookah
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:30:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life)
I had no logi, I'd just save the ammo. |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:30:00 -
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One experience where your team has the other redlined does not constitute proof of anything.
When are people going to learn that anecdotes don't mean anything? |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:31:00 -
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I had a 16-0 game with a Toxin AR and no real SP into ARs. Nerf the Toxin. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:31:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. -bazookah (HMG for life) You mean hide at the top of the map unopposed and rain down one hit kills. The fact that you can hold the charge makes it even easier to kill with. Point, Wait, Click, Win. And there is nothing that can be done about it because they can't see you unless they are directly under you to see through the slats of the fencing on the buildings, which puts them right into your killzone. A couple good snipers trained at on Forge gunner will make his life hell and he won't make his shots count. I know. I've tried. -bazookah (HMG for life)
Of course, if the forge gunner can be seen. The map layout combined with the splash of the forge makes it too easy. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:32:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life) I had no logi, I'd just save the ammo.
Exactly which kept you at a mesly ten and if it wasn't for your obviously good team who kept them redlined while you sat around like a duck, then you would be singing a different tune.
-bazookah
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:32:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life)
Forge Guns require skill.
Lol.
Okay, maybe a little, but how many Heavies think its actually hard to aim these things?
You only need splash to kill the basic suits/Scouts, its easy to hit DSes and HAVs, and the Forge gun is much more powerful than the normal Forge. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:32:00 -
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Skihids wrote:One experience where your team has the other redlined does not constitute proof of anything.
When are people going to learn that anecdotes don't mean anything?
But I wasnt forging at the redline, I was forging in the middle of the map, and only didnt get MORE kills because reds no longer could make it to the center. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:33:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life) I had no logi, I'd just save the ammo. Exactly which kept you at a mesly ten and if it wasn't for your obviously good team who kept them redlined while you sat around like a duck, then you would be singing a different tune. -bazookah (HMG for life)
reading comprehension much? The only reason I didnt get more is because they were redlined. I was on the center of the city sitting behind the fences and shooting through the slats, where I'm pretty much impossible to see. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:34:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life) Forge Guns require skill. Lol. Okay, maybe a little, but how many Heavies think its actually hard to aim these things? You only need splash to kill the basic suits/Scouts, its easy to hit DSes and HAVs, and the Forge gun is much more powerful than the normal Forge.
It requires *some* skill, but its nowhere near as hard as some make it out to be.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:35:00 -
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Again, this is relevant. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:36:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1166023#post1166023 |
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Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:39:00 -
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Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:41:00 -
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couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:43:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
No no no, I dont want the forge to lose its skillshot potential, just an adjustment to its splash damage. If you can snipe with it thats fine, but it should really require you to have good aim, as you say its primarily an AV weapon. CCP should also look at its socket design and remove the fences off the tops of some buildings to make certain situations less likely. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:43:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
Of course, but still didnt kill me, got reps for that. I'd pop out while holding a charge, pick a target, and waste it. The only time they could snipe me though was when I was on a structure that did not have a fence.
Popping out of cover with a charge, and being able to pick, and hit a target for the kill is tactics and skill rolled up into a nice ball of lightning.
Those fences suck balls, they can normally limit your field of fire pretty severely, they should have taken a LAV to your feet.
Most upper level forge gunners carry the Ishukone Assault though, so no holding a charge. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:44:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
heh I'm amused that your talking down to someone thats so far above you that you might as well be crap back chatting the anus you fell from. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:45:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them.
If your tanked died once from this tactic would you bring it out again? Would you think of a new strategy? FG are better at getting rid of armor then shield. You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. And a good team can produce 2 to 3 OB per match. Think smarter. Come on guys. Do it for the noobs
-bazookah
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DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:45:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them.
Same could be said about tower sniping, yet no one ever brings that up. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:47:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
No no no, I dont want the forge to lose its skillshot potential, just an adjustment to its splash damage. If you can snipe with it thats fine, but it should really require you to have good aim, as you say its primarily an AV weapon. CCP should also look at its socket design and remove the fences off the tops of some buildings to make certain situations less likely.
Leave the damage and shrink the radius, or lower the damage and leave the radius.
CCP will do both though, and really alter the balance too much.
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:47:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:They are designed to be AV.
Exactly, but right now they are far too effective Vs Infantry.
In my opinion, the Assault needs a drawback.
When you think of the other variants for other weapons.
Breach, most accurate of all variants, powerful direct, less splash, low RoF. (Mass Driver, AR) Assault, least accurate, less direct, less splash, higher radius, highest RoF. (MD, Scrambler Pistol, SMG)
Anyone who says "Forges are incredibly difficult to aim!" is an idiot, the Assault variant needs to lose a bit of its accuracy and splash damage, direct and RoF are okay. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:48:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
(HMG for life) heh I'm amused that your talking down to someone thats so far above you that you might as well be crap back chatting the anus you fell from.
Stfu you couldn't kick a duck in the ass if you used a step ladder. Stay relevant .
-bazookah
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