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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:19:00 -
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I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:21:00 -
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Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:21:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:24:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons?
Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play.
-bazookah
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:26:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. -bazookah (HMG for life)
You mean hide at the top of the map unopposed and rain down one hit kills. The fact that you can hold the charge makes it even easier to kill with. Point, Wait, Click, Win. And there is nothing that can be done about it because they can't see you unless they are directly under you to see through the slats of the fencing on the buildings, which puts them right into your killzone. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:26:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons?
Did the enemy snipe you as you were up there? If not, then their tactics were UP. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:28:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:
I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons?
Did the enemy snipe you as you were up there? If not, then their tactics were UP.
Of course, but still didnt kill me, got reps for that. I'd pop out while holding a charge, pick a target, and waste it. The only time they could snipe me though was when I was on a structure that did not have a fence. |
Protocake JR
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:28:00 -
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As someone who sucks at sniping, it's easier for me to forge gun sniping than actually using a sniper to snipe. |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:29:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. -bazookah (HMG for life) You mean hide at the top of the map unopposed and rain down one hit kills. The fact that you can hold the charge makes it even easier to kill with. Point, Wait, Click, Win. And there is nothing that can be done about it because they can't see you unless they are directly under you to see through the slats of the fencing on the buildings, which puts them right into your killzone.
A couple good snipers trained at on Forge gunner will make his life hell and he won't make his shots count. I know. I've tried.
-bazookah
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:30:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life)
I had no logi, I'd just save the ammo. |
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Skihids
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:30:00 -
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One experience where your team has the other redlined does not constitute proof of anything.
When are people going to learn that anecdotes don't mean anything? |
DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:31:00 -
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I had a 16-0 game with a Toxin AR and no real SP into ARs. Nerf the Toxin. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:31:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. -bazookah (HMG for life) You mean hide at the top of the map unopposed and rain down one hit kills. The fact that you can hold the charge makes it even easier to kill with. Point, Wait, Click, Win. And there is nothing that can be done about it because they can't see you unless they are directly under you to see through the slats of the fencing on the buildings, which puts them right into your killzone. A couple good snipers trained at on Forge gunner will make his life hell and he won't make his shots count. I know. I've tried. -bazookah (HMG for life)
Of course, if the forge gunner can be seen. The map layout combined with the splash of the forge makes it too easy. |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:32:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life) I had no logi, I'd just save the ammo.
Exactly which kept you at a mesly ten and if it wasn't for your obviously good team who kept them redlined while you sat around like a duck, then you would be singing a different tune.
-bazookah
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:32:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life)
Forge Guns require skill.
Lol.
Okay, maybe a little, but how many Heavies think its actually hard to aim these things?
You only need splash to kill the basic suits/Scouts, its easy to hit DSes and HAVs, and the Forge gun is much more powerful than the normal Forge. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:32:00 -
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Skihids wrote:One experience where your team has the other redlined does not constitute proof of anything.
When are people going to learn that anecdotes don't mean anything?
But I wasnt forging at the redline, I was forging in the middle of the map, and only didnt get MORE kills because reds no longer could make it to the center. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:33:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life) I had no logi, I'd just save the ammo. Exactly which kept you at a mesly ten and if it wasn't for your obviously good team who kept them redlined while you sat around like a duck, then you would be singing a different tune. -bazookah (HMG for life)
reading comprehension much? The only reason I didnt get more is because they were redlined. I was on the center of the city sitting behind the fences and shooting through the slats, where I'm pretty much impossible to see. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:34:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Or you could just , you know, shut up.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) I'm sorry, but hasnt the bleeting on the forums of late been against point click I win weapons? Its not point click moron. Its charge, hold, aim fire. Just cause you redlined someone doesn't make it OP. Now shut up and go play. Edit: and if your talking about the assualt variant (which you aren't cause you just made an alt) it requires a lot of skill to pop off forge shots and not run completely out of ammo without a logi backing you up. In that case teamwork is OP. -bazookah (HMG for life) Forge Guns require skill. Lol. Okay, maybe a little, but how many Heavies think its actually hard to aim these things? You only need splash to kill the basic suits/Scouts, its easy to hit DSes and HAVs, and the Forge gun is much more powerful than the normal Forge.
It requires *some* skill, but its nowhere near as hard as some make it out to be.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:35:00 -
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Again, this is relevant. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:36:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1166023#post1166023 |
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Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:39:00 -
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Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:41:00 -
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couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:43:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
No no no, I dont want the forge to lose its skillshot potential, just an adjustment to its splash damage. If you can snipe with it thats fine, but it should really require you to have good aim, as you say its primarily an AV weapon. CCP should also look at its socket design and remove the fences off the tops of some buildings to make certain situations less likely. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:43:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
Of course, but still didnt kill me, got reps for that. I'd pop out while holding a charge, pick a target, and waste it. The only time they could snipe me though was when I was on a structure that did not have a fence.
Popping out of cover with a charge, and being able to pick, and hit a target for the kill is tactics and skill rolled up into a nice ball of lightning.
Those fences suck balls, they can normally limit your field of fire pretty severely, they should have taken a LAV to your feet.
Most upper level forge gunners carry the Ishukone Assault though, so no holding a charge. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:44:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
(HMG for life)
heh I'm amused that your talking down to someone thats so far above you that you might as well be crap back chatting the anus you fell from. |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:45:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them.
If your tanked died once from this tactic would you bring it out again? Would you think of a new strategy? FG are better at getting rid of armor then shield. You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. And a good team can produce 2 to 3 OB per match. Think smarter. Come on guys. Do it for the noobs
-bazookah
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DS 10
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:45:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them.
Same could be said about tower sniping, yet no one ever brings that up. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:47:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:
No no no, I dont want the forge to lose its skillshot potential, just an adjustment to its splash damage. If you can snipe with it thats fine, but it should really require you to have good aim, as you say its primarily an AV weapon. CCP should also look at its socket design and remove the fences off the tops of some buildings to make certain situations less likely.
Leave the damage and shrink the radius, or lower the damage and leave the radius.
CCP will do both though, and really alter the balance too much.
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Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:47:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:They are designed to be AV.
Exactly, but right now they are far too effective Vs Infantry.
In my opinion, the Assault needs a drawback.
When you think of the other variants for other weapons.
Breach, most accurate of all variants, powerful direct, less splash, low RoF. (Mass Driver, AR) Assault, least accurate, less direct, less splash, higher radius, highest RoF. (MD, Scrambler Pistol, SMG)
Anyone who says "Forges are incredibly difficult to aim!" is an idiot, the Assault variant needs to lose a bit of its accuracy and splash damage, direct and RoF are okay. |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:48:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote:Because your team was good and you sat in a good position, the forge gun is OP? No. You made a good decision obviously to hide and not get shot. Props to you. If the other team was smart they would have lured you out and AR you to death. You made a good decision. But that doesn't make FG OP. They are designed to be AV. The fact that someone thought outside the box and shot a person makes you smarter then the average bear. Congratulations. But its your brain that's OP not the gun. Keep making good choices but quit making it harder for newer players to have any chance in this game at all without a freaking AR. Its sad what you people are making this game into
-bazookah
(HMG for life) heh I'm amused that your talking down to someone thats so far above you that you might as well be crap back chatting the anus you fell from.
Stfu you couldn't kick a duck in the ass if you used a step ladder. Stay relevant .
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:48:00 -
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. The forge gun is hardly a "I win" button, especially considering you have to be stuck with a heavy frame suit.
All I'm getting out of this is you joined a pub stomp on the side of the stompers and were able to kill a decent number of people without dying. Anyone can do that too. Heck, given those conditions I could go 10-0 with the plasma cannon.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:52:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you.
I lol'd at this.
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:53:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. The forge gun is hardly a "I win" button, especially considering you have to be stuck with a heavy frame suit. All I'm getting out of this is you joined a pub stomp on the side of the stompers and were able to kill a decent number of people without dying. Anyone can do that too. Heck, given those conditions I could go 10-0 with the plasma cannon.
Read again, I was at the center of the map, the rest of the team was at the redline. I managed, in 5 minutes, to pick off every single person who made it to the center from the redline. They they tried sniping, but LOL heavy suit. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:53:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them. Same could be said about tower sniping, yet no one ever brings that up.
what do you mean no one brings it up? it says it right there in my post if a sniper on a tower pisses me off I get my incubus out and go land on his face, if im lazy and less dramatic i'll just pull a sniper rifle out and shoot him in the head.
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Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:54:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. I lol'd at this.
Admittedly I know nuthing about tanks so I take that comment back lol
-bazookah
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:55:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. I lol'd at this.
its a pretty amusing suggestion isn't it........ you know nothing John Snow. |
Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:57:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. I lol'd at this. its a pretty amusing suggestion isn't it........ you know nothing John Snow.
What I do know are heavies and forge guns and they dont really need a change. I'm done.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:58:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. The forge gun is hardly a "I win" button, especially considering you have to be stuck with a heavy frame suit. All I'm getting out of this is you joined a pub stomp on the side of the stompers and were able to kill a decent number of people without dying. Anyone can do that too. Heck, given those conditions I could go 10-0 with the plasma cannon. Read again, I was at the center of the map, the rest of the team was at the redline. I managed, in 5 minutes, to pick off every single person who made it to the center from the redline. They they tried sniping, but LOL heavy suit. Maybe the other players just suck?
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:59:00 -
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what they need is to be a little less accurate at long range. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:02:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:what they need is to be a little less accurate at long range.
AI or AV? A small amount of dispersion at range would make infantry kills harder without impacting AV work. Forges are pretty much fine right now, but a reduction in splash damage to Chromosome levels would probably be the best start. |
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Bazookah Tooth
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:02:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:what they need is to be a little less accurate at long range.
This maybe, someone mentioned adding more shake while charging...
If it pleases the gods I guess
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:05:00 -
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tanks are a pretty big target even at long range, a bit of variation would still allow them to pwn tanks (not something i like) but not be a hip fired super sniper rifle against inf, they shouldn't be a weapon you can sit on a tower 200m away from a point and make sure no one hacks it, IMO. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:09:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:tanks are a pretty big target even at long range, a bit of variation would still allow them to pwn tanks (not something i like) but not be a hip fired super sniper rifle against inf, they shouldn't be a weapon you can sit on a tower 200m away from a point and make sure no one hacks it, IMO.
That isn't going to change as long as the FG exists. Even at Chomosome levels the FG kills in three splashes, maybe four. Get two of them and the hack isn't going to fall unless you deal with the threat another way. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:13:00 -
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Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:46:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. Academy. ...... |
FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:49:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:08:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. Academy. ......
My alt is already out of acadamy since you only need 400 wp. Lol ccp troll. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:09:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun.
Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:15:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash.
How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!
I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD!
ParanSUX
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A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious!
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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:19:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED.
You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life.
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Xero The Mishima
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:20:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life.
Lol You mad bro
EDIT- You make me feel like Aches or Cr1msix or Even Nadesh0t It takes real envy to ask around about me using where I live and what my "name" is. That is not my name btw just use it for funzies |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:23:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life. Lol You mad bro
Just worried about how sad and pathetic your life must be. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:24:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s.
That's why FGs have splash. Its to hit people on the move.
Once again I love how the FGs ammo is just ignored. It takes roughly to 2 splash shots to kill someone. That's half your shots half of which won't kill a tank or a dropship that's posing a threat. There's about 16 shots in total you'll be taking they'll be going in 4s. 3 shots need to be reserved for tanks if theirs one on the BF that's the minimum needed to either kill or scare off a tank.
Going into a game FGs are either AV or AI not both without A)back up or B)a gastun. Now people like to argue "FGs on roofs with nanohive hur dur op". I want everyone in the thread to reflect on what I said earlier about back up. Once again this is all kitten that's been going down since chromo and only NOW is it being considered OP.
Another thing forgotten is the COST of a FG. Now I know tankers wanna compare the two but DON'T. The tank might get killed by AV but the FGer is getting hunted by everything else.
On that note let's not forget game mode also plays alot into the effectiveness of weapon and vehicle. A tank in ambush is alot easier to hunt down and kill than a tank in domination/skirmish. A FGer also racks up a lot more kills in ambush than he will skirmish but he might die alot more and ambush if he gets rushed. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:27:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s. That's why FGs have splash. Its to hit people on the move. Once again I love how the FGs ammo is just ignored. It takes roughly to 2 splash shots to kill some one. That's half your shots half of which won't kill a tank or a dropship that's posing a threat. There's about 16 shots in total you'll be taking they'll be going in 4s. 3 shots need to be reserved for tanks if theirs one on the BF that's the minimum needed to either kill or scare off a tank. Going into a game FGs are either AV or AI not both without A)back up or B)a gastun. Now people like to argue "FGs on roofs with nanohive hur dur op". I want everyone in the thread to reflect on what I said earlier about back up. Once again this is all kitten that's been going down since chromo and only NOW is it being considered OP. Another thing forgotten is the COST of a FG. Now I know tankers wanna compare the two but DON'T. The tank might get killed by AV but the FGer is getting hunted by everything else. On that note let's not forget game mode also plays alot into the effectiveness of weapon and vehicle. A tank in ambush is alot easier to hunt down and kill than a tank in domination/skirmish. A FGer also racks up a lot more kills in ambush than he will skirmish but he might die alot more and ambush if he gets rushed.
He's just trolling. He uses a Mass Driver! He knows all about splash. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:28:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life. Lol You mad bro Just worried about how sad and pathetic your life must be.
You researched me? Wanna know how much I read about you? NOTHING!
Lol! I never knew being in Teamplayers would up my celeb status even further! First SoTa now Cubs! Holy crap. At this rate maybe I can be in the Dust514 movie! |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life. Lol You mad bro Just worried about how sad and pathetic your life must be.
What's the matter? Is your "girlfriend" wanting nothing to do with you today? You got a lot of time (AS ALWAYS) to play Troll's last laugh. "She" must be sitting back wishing she was with a somebody. |
Nelo Angel0
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:32:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s. That's why FGs have splash. Its to hit people on the move. Once again I love how the FGs ammo is just ignored. It takes roughly to 2 splash shots to kill some one. That's half your shots half of which won't kill a tank or a dropship that's posing a threat. There's about 16 shots in total you'll be taking they'll be going in 4s. 3 shots need to be reserved for tanks if theirs one on the BF that's the minimum needed to either kill or scare off a tank. Going into a game FGs are either AV or AI not both without A)back up or B)a gastun. Now people like to argue "FGs on roofs with nanohive hur dur op". I want everyone in the thread to reflect on what I said earlier about back up. Once again this is all kitten that's been going down since chromo and only NOW is it being considered OP. Another thing forgotten is the COST of a FG. Now I know tankers wanna compare the two but DON'T. The tank might get killed by AV but the FGer is getting hunted by everything else. On that note let's not forget game mode also plays alot into the effectiveness of weapon and vehicle. A tank in ambush is alot easier to hunt down and kill than a tank in domination/skirmish. A FGer also racks up a lot more kills in ambush than he will skirmish but he might die alot more and ambush if he gets rushed. He's just trolling. He uses a Mass Driver! He knows all about splash.
OH you just reminded me. the reason the FG does so much splash damage is probably because the fall off damage is so low. The tighter the blast area the higher the chance of the target taking the full damage. I could be wrong though and there's nothing is place for splash damage fall off.
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Xero The Mishima
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:32:00 -
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GG Paran, OWNED AGAIN. Abort, REPORT, DISBAND. Get used to these words. Depending on future decisions you make you could be seeing this a lot |
Medical Crash
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:34:00 -
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No, I must disagree, Forge Guns are fine. If you nerf Forge Guns you would be giving Vehicles a buff! Leave them alone, don't make this game worse than it already is. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:34:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash.
LOOOOOL git gud bro. IF i use STD Heavy and Militia FG and go 15-2 ish. EVEN with enemies Red lined.
Of course i go 30+ kills per game with a MLT AR... So just cuz you got lucky DOES NOT mean the weapon is OP.
BTW , i wouldnt mind if you adjust the Splash damage but INCREASE the FG damage so i can actually destroy vehicles faster.You know, cuz real Forge gunners DONT really use Splash damage at all. Only Direct hits baby.... |
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Xero The Mishima
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:44:00 -
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Well it was fun owning. Going to a BBQ party now in my own car. Actually it's at my mom's house out of town. (the one I supposedly live in the basement in) Lol! I believe Rampage has already posted a picture of me and my girlfriend before. So ya SHE no " " exists too! :) Have fun whining and ranting |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:47:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Well it was fun owning. Going to a BBQ party now in my own car. Actually it's at my mom's house out of town. (the one I supposedly live in the basement in) Lol! I believe Rampage has already posted a picture of me and my girlfriend before. So ya SHE no " " exists too! :) Have fun whining and ranting
Wow srsly putting your photo on the forum of a free game?
Looking for some Internetz approval broski?
FG is fine git gud people... |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:23:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Well it was fun owning. Going to a BBQ party now in my own car. Actually it's at my mom's house out of town. (the one I supposedly live in the basement in) Lol! I believe Rampage has already posted a picture of me and my girlfriend before. So ya SHE no " " exists too! :) Have fun whining and ranting Wow srsly putting your photo on the forum of a free game? Looking for some Internetz approval broski? FG is fine git gud people...
He's just a sad and pathetic person. Bro needs to GET A LIFE. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:37:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED
And your forgegunner went 20-5 on infantry.... |
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