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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:48:00 -
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. The forge gun is hardly a "I win" button, especially considering you have to be stuck with a heavy frame suit.
All I'm getting out of this is you joined a pub stomp on the side of the stompers and were able to kill a decent number of people without dying. Anyone can do that too. Heck, given those conditions I could go 10-0 with the plasma cannon.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
695
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:52:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you.
I lol'd at this.
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1320
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:53:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. The forge gun is hardly a "I win" button, especially considering you have to be stuck with a heavy frame suit. All I'm getting out of this is you joined a pub stomp on the side of the stompers and were able to kill a decent number of people without dying. Anyone can do that too. Heck, given those conditions I could go 10-0 with the plasma cannon.
Read again, I was at the center of the map, the rest of the team was at the redline. I managed, in 5 minutes, to pick off every single person who made it to the center from the redline. They they tried sniping, but LOL heavy suit. |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
778
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:53:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:couple of forge guns and someone dropping ammo on top of a tower, only counter = orbital.
Annoys the hell out of me, completely nullifies my tank, can't fly my incubus up there and kill them like i would a sniper thats annoyed me, very unlikely to get a dropship up there to jump out and rifle them. Same could be said about tower sniping, yet no one ever brings that up.
what do you mean no one brings it up? it says it right there in my post if a sniper on a tower pisses me off I get my incubus out and go land on his face, if im lazy and less dramatic i'll just pull a sniper rifle out and shoot him in the head.
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Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
309
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:54:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. I lol'd at this.
Admittedly I know nuthing about tanks so I take that comment back lol
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
778
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:55:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. I lol'd at this.
its a pretty amusing suggestion isn't it........ you know nothing John Snow. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
309
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:57:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Bazookah Tooth wrote: You might need to start shield tanking if that's what's killing you. I lol'd at this. its a pretty amusing suggestion isn't it........ you know nothing John Snow.
What I do know are heavies and forge guns and they dont really need a change. I'm done.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1172
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:58:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I'm not sure what you're trying to get across. The forge gun is hardly a "I win" button, especially considering you have to be stuck with a heavy frame suit. All I'm getting out of this is you joined a pub stomp on the side of the stompers and were able to kill a decent number of people without dying. Anyone can do that too. Heck, given those conditions I could go 10-0 with the plasma cannon. Read again, I was at the center of the map, the rest of the team was at the redline. I managed, in 5 minutes, to pick off every single person who made it to the center from the redline. They they tried sniping, but LOL heavy suit. Maybe the other players just suck?
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Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
780
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Posted - 2013.08.11 14:59:00 -
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what they need is to be a little less accurate at long range. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
695
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:02:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:what they need is to be a little less accurate at long range.
AI or AV? A small amount of dispersion at range would make infantry kills harder without impacting AV work. Forges are pretty much fine right now, but a reduction in splash damage to Chromosome levels would probably be the best start. |
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Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
309
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:02:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:what they need is to be a little less accurate at long range.
This maybe, someone mentioned adding more shake while charging...
If it pleases the gods I guess
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
780
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:05:00 -
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tanks are a pretty big target even at long range, a bit of variation would still allow them to pwn tanks (not something i like) but not be a hip fired super sniper rifle against inf, they shouldn't be a weapon you can sit on a tower 200m away from a point and make sure no one hacks it, IMO. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
695
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:09:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:tanks are a pretty big target even at long range, a bit of variation would still allow them to pwn tanks (not something i like) but not be a hip fired super sniper rifle against inf, they shouldn't be a weapon you can sit on a tower 200m away from a point and make sure no one hacks it, IMO.
That isn't going to change as long as the FG exists. Even at Chomosome levels the FG kills in three splashes, maybe four. Get two of them and the hack isn't going to fall unless you deal with the threat another way. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
437
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:13:00 -
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Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
249
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:46:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. Academy. ...... |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
250
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:49:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1322
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:08:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. Academy. ......
My alt is already out of acadamy since you only need 400 wp. Lol ccp troll. |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1322
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:09:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun.
Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
317
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:15:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash.
How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!
I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD!
ParanSUX
His best game.
A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious!
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Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1322
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:19:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED.
You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life.
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
317
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:20:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life.
Lol You mad bro
EDIT- You make me feel like Aches or Cr1msix or Even Nadesh0t It takes real envy to ask around about me using where I live and what my "name" is. That is not my name btw just use it for funzies |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1322
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:23:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life. Lol You mad bro
Just worried about how sad and pathetic your life must be. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
160
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:24:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s.
That's why FGs have splash. Its to hit people on the move.
Once again I love how the FGs ammo is just ignored. It takes roughly to 2 splash shots to kill someone. That's half your shots half of which won't kill a tank or a dropship that's posing a threat. There's about 16 shots in total you'll be taking they'll be going in 4s. 3 shots need to be reserved for tanks if theirs one on the BF that's the minimum needed to either kill or scare off a tank.
Going into a game FGs are either AV or AI not both without A)back up or B)a gastun. Now people like to argue "FGs on roofs with nanohive hur dur op". I want everyone in the thread to reflect on what I said earlier about back up. Once again this is all kitten that's been going down since chromo and only NOW is it being considered OP.
Another thing forgotten is the COST of a FG. Now I know tankers wanna compare the two but DON'T. The tank might get killed by AV but the FGer is getting hunted by everything else.
On that note let's not forget game mode also plays alot into the effectiveness of weapon and vehicle. A tank in ambush is alot easier to hunt down and kill than a tank in domination/skirmish. A FGer also racks up a lot more kills in ambush than he will skirmish but he might die alot more and ambush if he gets rushed. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
317
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:27:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s. That's why FGs have splash. Its to hit people on the move. Once again I love how the FGs ammo is just ignored. It takes roughly to 2 splash shots to kill some one. That's half your shots half of which won't kill a tank or a dropship that's posing a threat. There's about 16 shots in total you'll be taking they'll be going in 4s. 3 shots need to be reserved for tanks if theirs one on the BF that's the minimum needed to either kill or scare off a tank. Going into a game FGs are either AV or AI not both without A)back up or B)a gastun. Now people like to argue "FGs on roofs with nanohive hur dur op". I want everyone in the thread to reflect on what I said earlier about back up. Once again this is all kitten that's been going down since chromo and only NOW is it being considered OP. Another thing forgotten is the COST of a FG. Now I know tankers wanna compare the two but DON'T. The tank might get killed by AV but the FGer is getting hunted by everything else. On that note let's not forget game mode also plays alot into the effectiveness of weapon and vehicle. A tank in ambush is alot easier to hunt down and kill than a tank in domination/skirmish. A FGer also racks up a lot more kills in ambush than he will skirmish but he might die alot more and ambush if he gets rushed.
He's just trolling. He uses a Mass Driver! He knows all about splash. |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
317
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:28:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life. Lol You mad bro Just worried about how sad and pathetic your life must be.
You researched me? Wanna know how much I read about you? NOTHING!
Lol! I never knew being in Teamplayers would up my celeb status even further! First SoTa now Cubs! Holy crap. At this rate maybe I can be in the Dust514 movie! |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
317
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash. How is this post any different from mine? MD=I win button!I actually showed some games where I actually did smash with the basic MD. You are just ranting lies and trying to talk like you are capable of getting kills. You get 10 kills? You can't even get more than 5 kills with a FREEDOM MD! ParanSUXHis best game.A MD player trying to comment about other players weapon of choice, now that's just fudging hilarious! EDIT- Go ahead and tell these fine people how you came down to my level for a 1v1 and got WRECKED. You are sad and pathetic Miguel. Please get a life. Lol You mad bro Just worried about how sad and pathetic your life must be.
What's the matter? Is your "girlfriend" wanting nothing to do with you today? You got a lot of time (AS ALWAYS) to play Troll's last laugh. "She" must be sitting back wishing she was with a somebody. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
160
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:32:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Try to get the assault variant and see how OP it is. The faster charge time means kills by splash = easy.
-XOXO I hope you know people hardly kill by splash damage. Again stop standing still. Even a heavy can run away from a forge gun. Everyone I killed was on the move. The myth that forges only kill people standing still is b.s. That's why FGs have splash. Its to hit people on the move. Once again I love how the FGs ammo is just ignored. It takes roughly to 2 splash shots to kill some one. That's half your shots half of which won't kill a tank or a dropship that's posing a threat. There's about 16 shots in total you'll be taking they'll be going in 4s. 3 shots need to be reserved for tanks if theirs one on the BF that's the minimum needed to either kill or scare off a tank. Going into a game FGs are either AV or AI not both without A)back up or B)a gastun. Now people like to argue "FGs on roofs with nanohive hur dur op". I want everyone in the thread to reflect on what I said earlier about back up. Once again this is all kitten that's been going down since chromo and only NOW is it being considered OP. Another thing forgotten is the COST of a FG. Now I know tankers wanna compare the two but DON'T. The tank might get killed by AV but the FGer is getting hunted by everything else. On that note let's not forget game mode also plays alot into the effectiveness of weapon and vehicle. A tank in ambush is alot easier to hunt down and kill than a tank in domination/skirmish. A FGer also racks up a lot more kills in ambush than he will skirmish but he might die alot more and ambush if he gets rushed. He's just trolling. He uses a Mass Driver! He knows all about splash.
OH you just reminded me. the reason the FG does so much splash damage is probably because the fall off damage is so low. The tighter the blast area the higher the chance of the target taking the full damage. I could be wrong though and there's nothing is place for splash damage fall off.
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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
317
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:32:00 -
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GG Paran, OWNED AGAIN. Abort, REPORT, DISBAND. Get used to these words. Depending on future decisions you make you could be seeing this a lot |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
59
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:34:00 -
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No, I must disagree, Forge Guns are fine. If you nerf Forge Guns you would be giving Vehicles a buff! Leave them alone, don't make this game worse than it already is. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
502
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Posted - 2013.08.11 21:34:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:I made a forge alt
Adv heavy suit, STD forge gun, went 10-0. The only thing that kept that from being any higher was my team redlining the other team, so noone else came to the city.
Adj splash.
LOOOOOL git gud bro. IF i use STD Heavy and Militia FG and go 15-2 ish. EVEN with enemies Red lined.
Of course i go 30+ kills per game with a MLT AR... So just cuz you got lucky DOES NOT mean the weapon is OP.
BTW , i wouldnt mind if you adjust the Splash damage but INCREASE the FG damage so i can actually destroy vehicles faster.You know, cuz real Forge gunners DONT really use Splash damage at all. Only Direct hits baby.... |
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