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Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:45:00 -
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TL:DR SUMMATION AT BOTTOM Seriously people, why do you feel the need to make post after post and thread after THREAD of nothing but doom and gloom bs? Other than an obvious need for attention, if you really hate the game so much wtf are you still doing here? I am so TIRED of coming on here to see if there is anything noteworthy only to be brought down by a bunch of kittenholes posting about every problem or percieved problem they have with this game only to go on to say that they afk or are goin g to quit (for the 50th time). Let's look at the logic of this: why does one afk? To gain skill points/isk for this game. So why the hate? Why would one be posting for the twelfth time that they are going to quit the game because they hate it so much? The answer is the same for both: because despite everything they say in opposition to this the fact is that on some level they like the game and want to see it succeed, otherwise, unless they are COMPLETE basement-cases they would not still be here.
Here is what you hypocritical haters need to understand: if anything is going to kill people's will here it is going to be YOU above all else. You say the game sucks because no one plays it then you go blog about how much this game sucks somewhere, then you whine some more. YOU are the bad press that this game gets, if you want more features and a better playing experience stop shrieking about how awful the game is every chance you get! And the afk'ers are the worst "oooh, well the playing experience sucks" how do you think we feel when we have half the team circle-jerking it out in the mcc?! And then you have the nerve to come on here and brag about it to the whole forum while still contradicting yourself with every complaint! These people are the real poison in the well and what's worse is they don't even recognize themselves for what they are, half of them think they are doing a SERVICE by making those posts.
TL:DR SUMMATION: If you are still logging into the game in any way chances are you want it to succeed, stop with the doom and gloom. If you have a serious issue it is probably already being addressed and if not post it, with a possible solution, enough with the threads that do nothing constructive and simply list a dozen problems.
Rant end. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
329
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:49:00 -
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How long have you been playing the game? |
Protocake JR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
476
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:53:00 -
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A year and a half of feedback and the developers are still making dumb mistakes like lol400 wp to graduate the academy and join the elites without a good explanation except "we're experimenting".
Also everybody please give me likes because I am doing this for the attention |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
117
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:53:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:How long have you been playing the game? Since close beta, about a year I think. I got my pass at the PSHome E3 2012 event, the first group of limited beta keys |
aden slayer
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
566
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:53:00 -
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Inb4Lock |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
117
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:59:00 -
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As soon as I got into this and started helping set up WarRavens I researched the game and its plans obsessively, I watched very keynote and Dev blog, maybe that is why I have hope still, because I actually understand what the goal is and what they are working with. |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
99
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:07:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:A year and a half of feedback and the developers are still making dumb mistakes like lol400 wp to graduate the academy and join the elites without a good explanation except "we're experimenting". Also everybody please give me likes because I am doing this for the attention
I gave you a special edition "Diva" Like +1.
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HandOGod
Taints of Tartarus
17
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:28:00 -
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Forums are like high school students. Everyone just whines about how much their specific life sucks in a specific special way that no one else understands.
CCPs job is to weed through all the whining and find the genuine concerns.
I do not envy them, or any forum moderators for any game ever. |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
118
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:44:00 -
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HandOGod wrote:Forums are like high school students. Everyone just whines about how much their specific life sucks in a specific special way that no one else understands.
CCPs job is to weed through all the whining and find the genuine concerns.
I do not envy them, or any forum moderators for any game ever. This. I felt like that goat in the children's story clip-clopping over the trolls bridge when I posted this but it has been too long since I have seen a post doing anything to counteract these endlessly negative people. |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Delta Enterprise
44
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:50:00 -
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WarRavens? I like you guys a lot. I have accidentally squad-ed with you a couple of times in the past and those matches have been some of the funnest I've ever played. Ok, you've convinced me. Only happy comments from me from now on (or at least more cleverly subtle negative ones) whenever I post on the forums.
+1 for converting. |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
1135
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:00:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:because I actually understand what the goal is and what they are working with.
Make a thread explaining CCP's goal for the game. I expect nothing less than one full post (6000 characters). Like this post when you do, so I know you have, I will read it, and if CCP confirms you know their goal for the game, I will give you 10 million ISK when I start playing the game again.
I'm not asking because I wish to challenge your comment for the sake of it. If you truly know what CCP wants from the game, then share it with the damn community. We're flailing about in the dark here. CCP goes on and ON about community feedback and how they treasure it, but how can we provide feedback that we know will be considered if we don't know where CCP want to go with the game?
For starters, what game genre is this? What aspects of FPS/RPG/MMO are we focusing on? What kind of content will we see 5 years down the track? What kind of game modes? What will our impact be on New Eden?
The answers to these questions should be a small part of CCP's whole 'goal' that you claim to know. I doubt even the CPM know.
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Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
185
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:27:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:because I actually understand what the goal is and what they are working with. Make a thread explaining CCP's goal for the game. I expect nothing less than one full post (6000 characters). Like this post when you do, so I know you have, I will read it, and if CCP confirms you know their goal for the game, I will give you 10 million ISK when I start playing the game again. I'm not asking because I wish to challenge your comment for the sake of it. If you truly know what CCP wants from the game, then share it with the damn community. We're flailing about in the dark here. CCP goes on and ON about community feedback and how they treasure it, but how can we provide feedback that we know will be considered if we don't know where CCP want to go with the game? For starters, what game genre is this? What aspects of FPS/RPG/MMO are we focusing on? What kind of content will we see 5 years down the track? What kind of game modes? What will our impact be on New Eden? The answers to these questions should be a small part of CCP's whole 'goal' that you claim to know. I doubt even the CPM know.
CCP needs to add a function that allows us to "love" a comment rather than "like"; specifically for this comment here.
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Flux Raeder
WarRavens League of Infamy
119
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:31:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:because I actually understand what the goal is and what they are working with. Make a thread explaining CCP's goal for the game. I expect nothing less than one full post (6000 characters). Like this post when you do, so I know you have, I will read it, and if CCP confirms you know their goal for the game, I will give you 10 million ISK when I start playing the game again. I'm not asking because I wish to challenge your comment for the sake of it. If you truly know what CCP wants from the game, then share it with the damn community. We're flailing about in the dark here. CCP goes on and ON about community feedback and how they treasure it, but how can we provide feedback that we know will be considered if we don't know where CCP want to go with the game? For starters, what game genre is this? What aspects of FPS/RPG/MMO are we focusing on? What kind of content will we see 5 years down the track? What kind of game modes? What will our impact be on New Eden? The answers to these questions should be a small part of CCP's whole 'goal' that you claim to know. I doubt even the CPM know. I honestly don't think it requires a full post and if I posted that much it would be a redundant waste of my time: the info is already out there. Head over to YouTube and check out the keynotes from the dust 514 conference.( I do apologize because i have been typing fron my iphone so i can't easily link atm. I'll try to remember to come back and edit them in when I get home) If my memory serves me right they are a couple hours long in all. They basically give you a rundown on every essential plan they have for the next couple years and a general feel for the direction they want to head down for the next 5. I retread your pos trying to see something that wasn't addressed in the videos and couldn't come across anything so I think this might be what you are looking for. As for game modes, I believe that was actually at least partially addressed in a rather recent video by CCP, wherein they displayed the models for the drones, new vehicles, dropsuits etc. and discussed a few possible related game modes. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
676
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:11:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:As soon as I got into this and started helping set up WarRavens I researched the game and its plans obsessively, I watched very keynote and Dev blog, maybe that is why I have hope still, because I actually understand what the goal is and what they are working with.
Hey newberry.
Since before Replication its been a case of unintentional tick off the playerbase once per month ohk swarms, atomic frisbee REs, contact nades, creodon ar, scout disco shoes, sagaris, surya, dropships going 100 and 0, viziam, contact nades again, flaylocks....sigh.
And hey!!! lets BUFF something by 60 percent!!
Yeah!! got run over one time too many when up top on a building by a charbydis managed to jump up there so PS4 pre-order it is. |
dustwaffle
Gravity Prone EoN.
299
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:18:00 -
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Doesn't matter your real life online age, 15, 25, 35, 45 or whatever, when it comes to forums, gaming forums in particular, everyone reverts to 12-year old whining and ranting. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI EoN.
40
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Posted - 2013.08.09 09:21:00 -
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I have complained about stuff, typically for me its about the AFKers but any and all forums for games get infected by the "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! this gun killed me its OP, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
The game is not finished yet for gods sake! Yes CCP is making mistakes and yes I am playing less and considering quitting (like i actually did in beta, it took a friend nagging me to bring me back) I want to like DUST, I had some really goood rounds a few days back but so many of the games now there is so much AFKing going on I got to ambush, problem there is I keep running into the world Number one and if that happens its "BPO suit time cos other wise he and his friends will wreck my ISK balance"
On a couple of occasions I have been lucky enough that he is on my team so I follwed at a discreet distance killing what I could while trying to absrob what he does that makes hom so good apart from his full proto suit
games are about fun, but when ppl are not having fun, they will come here and vent in the hope they get their current hated weapon nerfed. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2013.08.09 09:25:00 -
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Nearly everybody, once they are on-line and anonymous, become a negative Drew. It is a most peculiar phenomenon. |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
100
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:16:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:[quote=Flux Raeder]CCP goes on and ON about community feedback and how they treasure it,
I'm sure they do treasure it, but hoard the treasure like a dragon! |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
1006
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:21:00 -
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you know whats worse?....
A kitten with one leg |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
222
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:26:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Nearly everybody, once they are on-line and anonymous, become a negative Drew. It is a most peculiar phenomenon.
I always negative, even in person. That's why cats and dogs are afraid of me. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7100
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:39:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:because I actually understand what the goal is and what they are working with. Make a thread explaining CCP's goal for the game. I expect nothing less than one full post (6000 characters). Like this post when you do, so I know you have, I will read it, and if CCP confirms you know their goal for the game, I will give you 10 million ISK when I start playing the game again. I'm not asking because I wish to challenge your comment for the sake of it. If you truly know what CCP wants from the game, then share it with the damn community. We're flailing about in the dark here. CCP goes on and ON about community feedback and how they treasure it, but how can we provide feedback that we know will be considered if we don't know where CCP want to go with the game? For starters, what game genre is this? What aspects of FPS/RPG/MMO are we focusing on? What kind of content will we see 5 years down the track? What kind of game modes? What will our impact be on New Eden? The answers to these questions should be a small part of CCP's whole 'goal' that you claim to know. I doubt even the CPM know.
Cracks Knuckles.
I'll do it two sentences.
First being: The main goal of Dust 514 is to bring the New Eden Universe to veteran shooter and console players through the eyes of an immortal soldier.
The second being: Games should not be defined by the Genre rather the Genre be defined by the Games. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
1006
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cracks Knuckles.
I'll do it two sentences.
First being: The main goal of Dust 514 is to bring the New Eden Universe to veteran shooter and console players through the eyes of an immortal soldier.
The second being: Games should not be defined by the Genre rather the Genre be defined by the Games.
+1 Nice |
HandOGod
Taints of Tartarus
22
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:14:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:HandOGod wrote:Forums are like high school students. Everyone just whines about how much their specific life sucks in a specific special way that no one else understands.
CCPs job is to weed through all the whining and find the genuine concerns.
I do not envy them, or any forum moderators for any game ever. This. I felt like that goat in the children's story clip-clopping over the trolls bridge when I posted this but it has been too long since I have seen a post doing anything to counteract these endlessly negative people.
it is impossible to counteract. Forums attract negativity like a black hole draws energy.
Best thing to do is try and post 9 entertaining/funny posts for every attempt at a serious post.
Never post more than twice in a thread. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
200
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:22:00 -
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When the game gets better the forums should improve, or when most of the player base leaves. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
202
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:26:00 -
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Because after about 1 and a half years the Devs have given us pretty much nothing. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
474
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:27:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:TL:DR SUMMATION AT BOTTOM
If you are still logging into the game in any way chances are you want it to succeed, stop with the doom and gloom. If you have a serious issue it is probably already being addressed and if not post it, with a possible solution, enough with the threads that do nothing constructive and simply list a dozen problems.
Rant end.
take a look here you will see strange names like Veteran_something. 653 pages of constructive feedbacks. Like "Make the forge gun less cheap" "smoke grenades" "vote kick" bla bla bla bla.
Now take a look here : 381 pages of bugs. Many solved, yes. But too many unsolved. And, well, it's more than one year now. People here are just waiting for a better game or enjoying what we have with others (but again, the game itself, after a while is not funny at all). |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
474
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Posted - 2013.08.09 15:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:First being: The main goal of Dust 514 is to bring the New Eden Universe to veteran shooter and console players through the eyes of an immortal soldier.
True. The problem is when almost all veteran shooters and console players left and we have a vast majority of eve players playing a shooter game. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
337
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:23:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:How long have you been playing the game? Since close beta, about a year I think. I got my pass at the PSHome E3 2012 event, the first group of limited beta keys
So when CCP was flip- flopping, breaking things that worked, nerfed and buffed weapons based on their in house LAN matches, promising AUR refund on release then pretended it never happened, giving ppl all sorts of I win buttons; you stood by all of this and agreed with those changes? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
337
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:26:00 -
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Don't get me wrong I don't blindly hate CCP or QQ about my sorry life. I am just saying that they made a few big mistakes that they either never tried to fix or at least explain to the community. This created a very bad atmosphere between ppl who play the game adn ppl who make it. Recently CCP has been getting their act together with better communications and PR. So that's good. But I am not surprised we still see so many sour QQ, doom and gloom threads. This kind of culture once put in place takes a long time to go away. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2852
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:42:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:How long have you been playing the game? Since close beta, about a year I think. I got my pass at the PSHome E3 2012 event, the first group of limited beta keys Congratulations. I've played for about as long as you, yet snapped and made a similar thread several months ago. |
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