So I used to be of the mind set that AV was supposed to be the thing that balances infantry against Armour..... Its not.

Being an Aver myself and new to tanks..... well there just isn't any point. I shouldn't even bother using tanks until I have 4+ million SP laid aside for it as Tanks literally are metal coffins.

Aren't fast enough

Aren't durable enough

Aren't accessible enough of new players to being using.... (Yup Im looking at you poor matchmaking)

I mean who would hire a merc clearly outclassed by his opponents for anything? No employer would, that would be a waste of money. They would hire mercs of the same skill level to narrow acceptable risk margins.... but nope not in Dust.....

It literally just hurts to drive tanks, the only times I can actually get away with it are if the opposition are completely incompetent or simply haven't brought any AV to the field....

Finally, one of you sees how difficult it is.

So I used to be of the mind set that AV was supposed to be the thing that balances infantry against Armour..... Its not.

Being an Aver myself and new to tanks..... well there just isn't any point. I shouldn't even bother using tanks until I have 4+ million SP laid aside for it as Tanks literally are metal coffins.

Aren't fast enough

Aren't durable enough

Aren't accessible enough of new players to being using.... (Yup Im looking at you poor matchmaking)

I mean who would hire a merc clearly outclassed by his opponents for anything? No employer would, that would be a waste of money. They would hire mercs of the same skill level to narrow acceptable risk margins.... but nope not in Dust.....

It literally just hurts to drive tanks, the only times I can actually get away with it are if the opposition are completely incompetent or simply haven't brought any AV to the field....

Oh I knew it was easy to bust tanks.... what I didn't know until yesterday was how hard it was to use tanks.

You cant just watch our for other tanks... those are the least of your worries.

Order of Danger while tanking

Infantry>Turrets> other tankers.

I mean Im well aware that If I see another tank on the field unless im behind that tank with a repper I'm going to loose. And I know that if I get infront of an unmanned turret I am dead..... the danger for me is that I cannot be aware of what sorts of AV infantry carry.

More often than not Im getting critically hit and destroyed without even knowing where Im being shot from.

Which is exactly what I meant just before. Tanking isn't easy, most especially for those new to it.

4mil SP... I haven't completely filled out turret operation; that's at 2mil right now; vehicle operation is another million - so with those, I'd be at almost 4mil.

I have a little over 9mil in vehicle upgrades right now.

You're way, way behind on vehicles.

So I used to be of the mind set that AV was supposed to be the thing that balances infantry against Armour..... Its not.

Being an Aver myself and new to tanks..... well there just isn't any point. I shouldn't even bother using tanks until I have 4+ million SP laid aside for it as Tanks literally are metal coffins.

Aren't fast enough

Aren't durable enough

Aren't accessible enough of new players to being using.... (Yup Im looking at you poor matchmaking)

I mean who would hire a merc clearly outclassed by his opponents for anything? No employer would, that would be a waste of money. They would hire mercs of the same skill level to narrow acceptable risk margins.... but nope not in Dust.....

It literally just hurts to drive tanks, the only times I can actually get away with it are if the opposition are completely incompetent or simply haven't brought any AV to the field....

Well , it really depends . Same as forge gunning is about positioning. I do just fine trolling with a militia HAV...

Wait until you get hit by AV grenades

How to best drive a vehicle,
Be absolutely scared of everything.

lolol. I cant tell if your being sarcastic or not but your absolutely right x)

How to best drive a vehicle,
Be absolutely scared of everything.

Infantry=Other tankers>Turrets

Well it works, you either kill it or run from it whatever it is.

Fixed. An infantry is easy to take out while doing OK damage. There is no excuse to being caught with your tail between your legs. ALWAYS have an escape route. Turrets are also pretty easy to take out.

Yup thats because its a weak tank weak tank get blown up man

According to your logic, militia/standard dropsuits should stand zero chances to taking out a proto dropsuit.

But that's not how it is. A standard dropsuit can kill a proto suit with strategy. There's no such thing as that for vehicles. Even if a Soma ambushes my Gunnlogi, I will kill it in two railgun shots. And if any vehicle ambushes a Madrugar, chances are the Madrugar will win.

Do you have a fitting that I could try out? Seems like I can never fit what I want on my HAV.

You won't be able to fit anything reasonable without spending more SP, since you need many of those skills hat give PG and CPU and reduce the module costs.

But I wont be able to spend SP on Gallentean HAV full well know CCP wont respec me, and that they may yet bring our Amarrian HAV. If they said they would respec us when the new skill sets are added, which they wont, I would.

I have already made this mistake on a 8 million SP toon which is now ruined and not enjoyable to play as because I could get the skills I actually wanted to.

you have a shield tank?

lolol. I cant tell if your being sarcastic or not but your absolutely right x)

So I used to be of the mind set that AV was supposed to be the thing that balances infantry against Armour..... Its not.

Being an Aver myself and new to tanks..... well there just isn't any point. I shouldn't even bother using tanks until I have 4+ million SP laid aside for it as Tanks literally are metal coffins.

Aren't fast enough

Aren't durable enough

Aren't accessible enough of new players to being using.... (Yup Im looking at you poor matchmaking)

I mean who would hire a merc clearly outclassed by his opponents for anything? No employer would, that would be a waste of money. They would hire mercs of the same skill level to narrow acceptable risk margins.... but nope not in Dust.....

It literally just hurts to drive tanks, the only times I can actually get away with it are if the opposition are completely incompetent or simply haven't brought any AV to the field....

I think one thing that tankers never say is that they are week against AV personnel and not just 1v1 - against coordinated squads of AV - they never talk about non-AV infantry vs tanks.

What about the rest of infantry? When I run into a tank it's instant death for me if I am seen. I can't return fire or do anything at all against a tank. Any infantry w/o AV is dead meat to a tank. Is that fair?