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Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:04:00 -
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moral decisions in battles,i mean players would occasionaly do toughf choices.For example you see enemy heavy machine gunner just going to position to attack your corp/team mates,and you are position to eliminate heavy but there are civilians running front of line of fire and there is no time to move better position.So would you shoot hmg and same time killing civilians or saving civilians by moving better position but losing time to save your mates.So what people think if ccp added moral decisions? |
Ploo-Koon
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
147
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:05:00 -
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There would be A LOT of dead civilians. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
59
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:06:00 -
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First, always protect your corp bros.
second, cool idea. |
Foley Jones
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:06:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:There would be A LOT of dead civilians.
and A LOT of hatemail :D |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
88
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:05:00 -
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Its great idea,and would bring little reality in this game |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1675
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:09:00 -
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Like anyone would pick the "good" moral choice |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
90
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:10:00 -
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It would simply go as with capsuleers why should an immortal care for the mortals...what happens in space would continue on the ground dead civilians everywhere.
But I would like to see choices in FW matter right now FW battles are just normal skirmishes where I have to wait longer ... |
BrownEye1129
SVER True Blood
28
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:26:00 -
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Wtf are the civilians doing in the middle of a battlefield? Picking daisies? What online competitiive FPS would do something like that? Seriously though waste of time in PVP, maybe in the PVE element it might work. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7084
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:29:00 -
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Go play Eve if you want to be a mass murderer. Ships are crewed up to 10k per battleship and they're not pod pilots either. So near full compliment of folks.
Also... you're probably made from dozens of different dead people already. Biomass begets biomass, people recycling is quite common in New Eden. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
130
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:31:00 -
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BrownEye1129 wrote:Wtf are the civilians doing in the middle of a battlefield? Picking daisies? What online competitiive FPS would do something like that? Seriously though waste of time in PVP, maybe in the PVE element it might work.
SOCOM did |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
924
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:41:00 -
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I've been thinking too that there should be civilians that are busy evacuating. Each murder would be -100 WP and an ISK fine. At the beginning of the match you'd hear sirens and see people leaving but soon after the field would be clear. Not all facilities would be surprised though. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
632
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:45:00 -
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This idea made me giggle . Tgis would be a cool idea in faction warfair and would be cool to read about 100s of civilian deaths at the hands of immortal mercs when defending or attacking factionally controlld districts. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:48:00 -
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Ploo-Koon wrote:There would be A LOT of dead civilians.
i think people would stop killing reds and go only for civilians.. |
Cody Allentek
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:50:00 -
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WE ARE IMMORTAL MERCENARIES, CIVILIAN CASUALTIES ARE NOT OUR CONCERN  |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
633
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:52:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:There would be A LOT of dead civilians. i think people would stop killing reds and go only for civilians..
Heheheh I would .hell id soot my own bluberrys if I could |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:53:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:ladwar wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:There would be A LOT of dead civilians. i think people would stop killing reds and go only for civilians.. Heheheh I would .hell id shot my own bluberrys if I could
totally.. some need to get shot. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
135
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:53:00 -
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Slightly unusable as in the weapon development vids they say that the weapons we use are so powerful and unshielded that anyone anywhere near them when they are fired will be set alight if not protected by a dropsuit |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
98
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:54:00 -
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I can see people saving the civilians but then they (civilians) would be gunned down by someone else just for the kicks and the savior would most likely die with them.
As for penalizing player from shooting the civilians, I would gladly use them as a meatshields, as would pretty much everyone else :D
Moral decisions and EVE universe don't mix all that well. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
486
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:56:00 -
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Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
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broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
135
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:58:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations |
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
634
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Posted - 2013.08.09 11:58:00 -
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ladwar wrote:pegasis prime wrote:ladwar wrote:Ploo-Koon wrote:There would be A LOT of dead civilians. i think people would stop killing reds and go only for civilians.. Heheheh I would .hell id shot my own bluberrys if I could totally.. some need to get shot.
Especially those little f@#kers that get in my tank and sellotape the fire button down before aiming at the mcc all game. Hell iv lost more tanks driving into the redline than av lol . Pop on nitro just befor you drive in and well theyll think twice before jumping in my tank to spam again . Although I had a game with a really persistant blue and I killd him 4 times in this manner. Lol the hate mail hahahahaha |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
89
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:00:00 -
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Ok what if you make decision to shoot hmg and kill civilians doing so,but after many years there will be rise of military/politician/terrorist leader,who start massive killings and destruction upprising against your faction/corporation/race.And this person is eventuality responsible 10 000 or 100 000 people getting killed and town`s and cities getting erased from maps.And only reason this is happening is this person did see you shooting hes/hers parents in this incident.I think things like this should be added to this game when pve comes.But maybe i am hoping too much and im sure ccp dont add things like this to dust.But i think also that little things like this would bring role-playing elements in this game and there would be strategy aspect also,people would have really consider their actions. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
487
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:03:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations
GTA, Saints Row, God Of War, Civilization, Age of Empires, many RTS-s. More. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
274
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:03:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go play Eve if you want to be a mass murderer. Ships are crewed up to 10k per battleship and they're not pod pilots either. So near full compliment of folks.
Also... you're probably made from dozens of different dead people already. Biomass begets biomass, people recycling is quite common in New Eden.
you remind me of an old movie where humanity has a population control that leads to food shortages and the Gov discovers a near unlimited amount of edible food at the bottom of the ocean, up until the people realize the food is chopped up criminals and "necessary losses"..... oh and the Matrix |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
130
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:06:00 -
[25] - Quote
Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations GTA, Saints Row, God Of War, Civilization, Age of Empires, many RTS-s. More.
You forgot Cod....russian airport mmmmmmmmmm |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
135
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:06:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations GTA, Saints Row, God Of War, Civilization, Age of Empires, many RTS-s. More.
I haven't played most of them but the ones I have are all 3rd person. There is a distinction between what 'you' do and what the 'character your watching' has done |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
634
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:13:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations
Lol I bet youd be the first carebear to use yourself as ameat shield protecting the civies. Lol
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Aran Abbas
Goonfeet
Top Men.
224
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:21:00 -
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I could see this maybe working if the civilians were base personnel, scientists, workers etc. One team gets a bonus for the alive ones and the other for the dead ones. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7086
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:23:00 -
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There is also the slight problem of the game getting banned in countries if this is done, and I for one don't want to see two instances of Dust 514 to be honest. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
153
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:27:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:There is also the slight problem of the game getting banned in countries if this is done, and I for one don't want to see two instances of Dust 514 to be honest.
You are right ofcourse, however it is amusing.
So murder is ok sometimes but not others? Its ok to maim and kill one 'type' of human but not another.
Have to laugh at ridiculous laws and ideas. |
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bethany valvetino
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
74
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go play Eve if you want to be a mass murderer. Ships are crewed up to 10k per battleship and they're not pod pilots either. So near full compliment of folks.
Also... you're probably made from dozens of different dead people already. Biomass begets biomass, people recycling is quite common in New Eden.
You should check your details, the whole point of the Pod is to reduce the ammount people needed for a ship, Pod fitted ships require a handfull of staff, while even something like a capitol ship only just gets above a few thousand, an Apoc for example is only 1100 staff members. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
60
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:30:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations GTA, Saints Row, God Of War, Civilization, Age of Empires, many RTS-s. More. You forgot Cod....russian airport mmmmmmmmmm
I was going to say. The game did give the option to skip that scene, though.
I was like "Ima play every part" and then that happened... I shot them npc's anyway |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7087
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:36:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go play Eve if you want to be a mass murderer. Ships are crewed up to 10k per battleship and they're not pod pilots either. So near full compliment of folks.
Also... you're probably made from dozens of different dead people already. Biomass begets biomass, people recycling is quite common in New Eden. You should check your details, the whole point of the Pod is to reduce the ammount people needed for a ship, Pod fitted ships require a handfull of staff, while even something like a capitol ship only just gets above a few thousand, an Apoc for example is only 1100 staff members.
Yeah nearly 100% of pod pilots in Eve are represented by players, similar to how players in Dust nearly represent the entire immortal soldier population or is the super massive majority of them.
The only hostile podder NPCs you face are typically 'Officers' the weakest of which is Zor and his leuitenants. There plenty of others from various factions like Estamel and Thron.
I mean it should occur to you why in the hell is your attack cruiser killing NPC 20-30 battleships with escorts all by its lonesome.
NPC ships are standard crewed, Pirate ships are likely understaffed, Naval ships which are generally tougher are probably fuller crewed. |
bethany valvetino
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
74
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go play Eve if you want to be a mass murderer. Ships are crewed up to 10k per battleship and they're not pod pilots either. So near full compliment of folks.
Also... you're probably made from dozens of different dead people already. Biomass begets biomass, people recycling is quite common in New Eden. You should check your details, the whole point of the Pod is to reduce the ammount people needed for a ship, Pod fitted ships require a handfull of staff, while even something like a capitol ship only just gets above a few thousand, an Apoc for example is only 1100 staff members. Yeah nearly 100% of pod pilots in Eve are represented by players, similar to how players in Dust nearly represent the entire immortal soldier population or is the super massive majority of them. The only hostile podder NPCs you face are typically 'Officers' the weakest of which is Zor and his leuitenants. There plenty of others from various factions like Estamel and Thron its also suspect that 'commanders' that are not named are also pod pilots due to their difficulty in taking out but are not as skilled as the officers or in high enough social ranking to demand customized tools. I mean it should occur to you why in the hell is your attack cruiser killing NPC 20-30 battleships with escorts all by its lonesome. It's because you're the guy running the pod tech and they're the poor sobs not running it. NPC ships are standard crewed, Pirate ships are likely understaffed, Naval ships which are generally tougher are probably fuller crewed.
I'm at work right now, so i have a very limited access to the web, soon they will find Dust and close access to that, So I can't find this document, but there is one that gives the complete break down, of the ships in eve and the crews they have. I'm sure some google will do it. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
59
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:31:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations GTA, Saints Row, God Of War, Civilization, Age of Empires, many RTS-s. More. I haven't played most of them but the ones I have are all 3rd person. There is a distinction between what 'you' do and what the 'character your watching' has done
Go play Spec Ops:The Line and stfu please.  |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7093
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:34:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Go play Eve if you want to be a mass murderer. Ships are crewed up to 10k per battleship and they're not pod pilots either. So near full compliment of folks.
Also... you're probably made from dozens of different dead people already. Biomass begets biomass, people recycling is quite common in New Eden. You should check your details, the whole point of the Pod is to reduce the ammount people needed for a ship, Pod fitted ships require a handfull of staff, while even something like a capitol ship only just gets above a few thousand, an Apoc for example is only 1100 staff members. Yeah nearly 100% of pod pilots in Eve are represented by players, similar to how players in Dust nearly represent the entire immortal soldier population or is the super massive majority of them. The only hostile podder NPCs you face are typically 'Officers' the weakest of which is Zor and his leuitenants. There plenty of others from various factions like Estamel and Thron its also suspect that 'commanders' that are not named are also pod pilots due to their difficulty in taking out but are not as skilled as the officers or in high enough social ranking to demand customized tools. I mean it should occur to you why in the hell is your attack cruiser killing NPC 20-30 battleships with escorts all by its lonesome. It's because you're the guy running the pod tech and they're the poor sobs not running it. NPC ships are standard crewed, Pirate ships are likely understaffed, Naval ships which are generally tougher are probably fuller crewed. I'm at work right now, so i have a very limited access to the web, soon they will find Dust and close access to that, So I can't find this document, but there is one that gives the complete break down, of the ships in eve and the crews they have. I'm sure some google will do it.
I know the document well I use it for article submissions for evelopedia all the time.
Not all ships in Eve are pod piloted though. This is clearly stated in the lore hundreds of times.
Tech 1 Ships are bi-crewable and are designed to complement either types of crews.
Tech 2 are almost pod reliant due to the lack of room made way for the specialization tech but are very capable of being commanded by non-podders as well.
Tech 3 ships have NO CREW with exception to the pod pilot. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
1345
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:37:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations GTA, Saints Row, God Of War, Civilization, Age of Empires, many RTS-s. More. I haven't played most of them but the ones I have are all 3rd person. There is a distinction between what 'you' do and what the 'character your watching' has done Go play Spec Ops:The Line and stfu please.
man spec ops was messed up like what u did to those civies with the thing at the gate (no spoilers) :) |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
328
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:39:00 -
[38] - Quote
Moved to Feedback/Requests
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
548
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:10:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations
Tell that to infinity ward...
Remember, No Russian. |
BrownEye1129
SVER True Blood
29
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:01:00 -
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broonfondle majikthies wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Security Dispersion:
In high security space, killing a civilian nets you -50 wp and a security status loss.
Once your security status is below -0.5 (after killing lots of civies) you are no longer immune to friendly fire in high-sec pub matches. Once your security falls below -0.8 you may no longer participate in high-security Pub matches until your standing improves (via PVE).
But, penalties are no fun, so positives are a better route imo:
The a portion of the isk pay-out is determined by the number of surviving civilians at the end of the match for both teams (as typically the attacking corporation wanted the facility and its staff).
But, there could be modes where the attackers want to eliminate all the civilians, each civilian giving bonus pay-out at the end of the match.
Perhaps there is a mode where the defenders are eliminating the civilians, but the attackers are trying to save them, netting differing payouts for both teams.
No gaming company will support the gunning down of innocent civilians in their creations
GTA.....the game is at its best when you are mowing down civis and get the military after you. |
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Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:04:00 -
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People would only care if these civilians were actually miners. Miners that are players you know and love, because they give you a cut of their action.
But now that their mining operation has been compromised, your corp will gain no more ISK for keeping them around. DEAL WITH THE THREAT! THE MINERS ARE DISPOSABLE NOW! |
grunt party
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:17:00 -
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Lillica Deathdealer wrote:People would only care if these civilians were actually miners. Miners that are players you know and love, because they give you a cut of their action.
But now that their mining operation has been compromised, your corp will gain no more ISK for keeping them around. DEAL WITH THE THREAT! THE MINERS ARE DISPOSABLE NOW!
lol |
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