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          Tallen Ellecon 
          KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:35:00 -
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          Laser rifle needs a buff Shotgun needs a buff Plasma Cannon needs a buff
  The Assault Rifle works Now the Mass Driver does as well
  If the Laser Rifle came back, people would scream it was OP
  Look, I too hate getting killed by weapons that require me to use different tactics, but that's my problem for not learning how to counter a variety of weapons. The AR by design will always be the weapon used the most, don't make it the only weapon used. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:37:00 -
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          +1  For common sense. | 
      
      
      
          
          Commander Marquess 
          The Generals EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:42:00 -
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          Cosgar wrote:+1  For common sense.   
  You beat me to it this time Cosgar   | 
      
      
      
          
          Johnny Guilt 
          Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:44:00 -
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          OP you've restore my faith in humanity | 
      
      
      
          
          FLAYLOCK Steve 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:44:00 -
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          Armor needs a buff Imo. Mass driver are fine. | 
      
      
      
          
          Patrick57 
          GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:46:00 -
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          Laser rifles are fine too. they just require an amount of skill and are pretty fun to use. | 
      
      
      
          
          ReGnYuM 
          TeamPlayers EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:46:00 -
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          LOL @ 6 Round Noob tube
  with Flux combo | 
      
      
      
          
          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:47:00 -
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          FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Armor needs a buff Imo. Mass driver are fine.   ^This so much. | 
      
      
      
          
          bolsh lee 
          Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:48:00 -
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          I posted this in a MD QQ thread and I agree with you so im posting this here as well
  How about we wait till 1.4 when aiming and lasers are fixed till we keep bitching about mass drivers.... 
  I have used mass drivers since.... **** its been to long I can't remember.. but when the console kiddies actually had aim assist and lasers were effective MDs were far and few between... 
  Oh yeah and MASSDRIVERS WERE ACTUALLY OP BACK THEN.... | 
      
      
      
          
          Beeeees 
          KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:51:00 -
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          Plus one. | 
      
      
      
          
          bolsh lee 
          Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:51:00 -
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          Cosgar wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Armor needs a buff Imo. Mass driver are fine.  ^This so much.   
 
  +1 and I love burning through armor with the MD | 
      
      
      
          
          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:54:00 -
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          1 more thing- all the roofs need to be accessible by a ladder or 2. Once someone with AV support gets up there, you can't get them down unless you're an amazing sniper and manage to snipe the uplink (you have to guess where it is because of rendering issues) | 
      
      
      
          
          BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:55:00 -
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          Cosgar wrote:+1  For common sense.   
  Literally the last person on this forum to judge whats common sense or not. | 
      
      
      
          
          FLAYLOCK Steve 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 22:56:00 -
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          Scheneighnay McBob wrote:1 more thing- all the roofs need to be accessible by a ladder or 2. Once someone with AV support gets up there, you can't get them down unless you're an amazing sniper and manage to snipe the uplink (you have to guess where it is because of rendering issues)   Yes. I use forge guns but I don't tower forge snipe. I don't think it'd a huge issue but still | 
      
      
      
          
          Aikuchi Tomaru 
          Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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          So instead of nerfing one thing they should buff 3 things? Seems like a lot of work if you can just adjust one thing. | 
      
      
      
          
          ZDub 303 
          TeamPlayers EoN.
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          You know its funny... when Flaylocks started to become popular everyone was making the same threads about it not being OP.
  Explosives need their damage falloff reworked, until then they will either be nerfed into uselessness or exploited until they are. | 
      
      
      
          
          Buster Friently 
          Rosen Association
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          Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:So instead of nerfing one thing they should buff 3 things? Seems like a lot of work if you can just adjust one thing.  
 
  Yeah, they should nerf the AR. The MD is fine, if a little weak.
 
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          Buster Friently 
          Rosen Association
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          ZDub 303 wrote:You know its funny... when Flaylocks started to become popular everyone was making the same threads about it not being OP.
  Explosives need their damage falloff reworked, until then they will either be nerfed into uselessness or exploited until they are.  
 
  They aren't OP now. They weren't OP then. They competed, that is all.
  Apparently that is all it takes though. | 
      
      
      
          
          Promethius Franklin 
          DUST University Ivy League
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          Buster Friently wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know its funny... when Flaylocks started to become popular everyone was making the same threads about it not being OP.
  Explosives need their damage falloff reworked, until then they will either be nerfed into uselessness or exploited until they are.  They aren't OP now. They weren't OP then. They competed, that is all. Apparently that is all it takes though.   No, a flaylock should not have been well outdamaging the MD. It was OP. | 
      
      
      
          
          NOAMIzzzzz 
          BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 23:09:00 -
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          Armor needs buff | 
      
      
      
          
          FLAYLOCK Steve 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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          Promethius Franklin wrote:Busterriently wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know its funny... when Flaylocks started too become popular everyone was making the same threads about it not being OP.
  Explosives need their damage falloff reworked, until then they will either be nerfed into uselessness or exploited until they are.  They aren't OP now. They weren't OP then. They competed, that is all. Apparently that is all it takes though.  No, a flaylock should not have been well outdamaging the MD. It was OP.    They were OP damage wise. But they nerfed the radius as well. Now it falls victim to the hit detection issue. | 
      
      
      
          
          Promethius Franklin 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 23:11:00 -
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          FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:Busterriently wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know its funny... when Flaylocks started too become popular everyone was making the same threads about it not being OP.
  Explosives need their damage falloff reworked, until then they will either be nerfed into uselessness or exploited until they are.  They aren't OP now. They weren't OP then. They competed, that is all. Apparently that is all it takes though.  No, a flaylock should not have been well outdamaging the MD. It was OP.   They were OP damage wise. But they nerfed the radius as well. Now it falls victim to the hit detection issue.   Saying they were overnerfed is a different discussion, one I don't think needs rehashed here, but he objectively said it wasn't OP, which means he is suggesting that neither aspect was out of balance. | 
      
      
      
          
          FLAYLOCK Steve 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 23:15:00 -
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          Promethius Franklin wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:Busterriently wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:You know its funny... when Flaylocks started too become popular everyone was making the same threads about it not being OP.
  Explosives need their damage falloff reworked, until then they will either be nerfed into uselessness or exploited until they are.  They aren't OP now. They weren't OP then. They competed, that is all. Apparently that is all it takes though.  No, a flaylock should not have been well outdamaging the MD. It was OP.   They were OP damage wise. But they nerfed the radius as well. Now it falls victim to the hit detection issue.  Saying they were overnerfed is a different discussion, one I don't think needs rehashed here, but he objectively said it wasn't OP, which means he is suggesting that neither aspect was out of balance.  not saying it's over nerf stat wise. But due to the game design. Poor hit detection and the simple fact that some hits don't even register I stopped using it as much now. I was looking forward to the nerf even though I defended the gun. But now the flaylock is like the shotgun and nova knife. I get more killlls with the nova knife than I do with the flay lock now. And my knife is only at level 3. That alone says it all. Honestly it just needs a buff in the radius or at least fix the hit detection | 
      
      
      
          
          calvin b 
          Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 23:37:00 -
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          Everyone kills me this works and that works but no one fails to mention the HMG. It is completely useless, when a shotgun, flaylock, SMG have more range something is drastically wrong. No one wants the HMG to work for they would have the table turned on them. If it did get fixed I fear everyone would scream OP and then it would be nerfed worse than it is. | 
      
      
      
          
          Chunky Munkey 
          Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.08.07 23:40:00 -
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          BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:+1  For common sense.   Literally the last person on this forum to judge whats common sense or not.  
  Yes. The person with just short of 4000 likes is unqualified to discuss balance. You, on the other hand, need to be made king. | 
      
      
      
          
          XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO 
          Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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        Posted - 2013.08.08 00:01:00 -
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          fix armor | 
      
      
      
          
          Lillica Deathdealer 
          Mango and Friends
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          Points for intelligence. Just watch, all they're gonna change is the aiming/sites, and people will scream OP. Not that it got a damage increase or anything -.- | 
      
      
      
          
          Bittersteel the Bastard 
          WarRavens League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.08 00:03:00 -
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          ReGnYuM wrote:LOL @ 6 Round Noob tube
  with Flux combo  
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          BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG 
          Expert Intervention Caldari State
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          Chunky Munkey wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Cosgar wrote:+1  For common sense.   Literally the last person on this forum to judge whats common sense or not.  Yes. The person with just short of 4000 likes is unqualified to discuss balance. You, on the other hand, need to be made king.  
  Lol likes | 
      
      
      
          
          Tallen Ellecon 
          KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.08.14 04:50:00 -
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          This post in a nutshell. | 
      
      
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