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mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:25:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:I don't hate you Mollerz, i find hate hard to maintain in the best of circumstances if i seem venomous, it is hyperbole but you are wrong. If the SP cap were removed, you would still afk, and still try on any excuse that fits when confronted about it. Point of fact is, afk farming is limited by the SP cap as it stands, the current double cap and what will be an epic AFK farm will testify to this. Its really great that you can be positive about a game that you are helping to ruin by the way .. if and when DUST does start to realise its potential... just remember, it had little to KITTEN all to do with the contributions of the AFK farmers. You can't provide weapon and map data from the MCC :P once again :) no hate, but dude... get over yourself :)
Were it just you ;)
If the skill cap was removed I wouldn't AFK simply because I could play like a beast when I wanted, and not according to a schedule with an expiration date. It really is that simple.
I have put about $300 USD into the game. Give or take. So it is not just being positive. I have also financially supported the development of the game as well. I am not ruining the game, my friend. I think, if the game were to be ruined, there's only one place to lay the blame. And it is not the player base.
I play far more games actively than I AFK. I've posted plenty of topics. Some I'd like to think have had a beneficial impact on the development of the game so far. Like I said, you already have these preconceptions you've made up in your mind, actively projected it onto AFKers and are going to continue on that way until it's a moot point. I get that. I can only point out all of that stops at your brain, and I assure you, you aren't putting all the pieces of a bigger picture together. You can do what you will with that information.
Why would I get over myself? I am a knifer scout OF COURSE I love glory. But that being said, again, the feeling that I need to get over myself is solely a projection based on a biased perception that is a foregone conclusion in your thought process. Thus, the irony here, is that you should probably get over yourself (: |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:31:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:However having hundreds of people afking each evening is boosting the player counts for dust, allowing some justification for continued funding and keeping CCPs stock up due to an increased perception of player activity. There is no "CCP stock price" CCP is a privately owned company, there is no stock price associated with earnings reports or any such stuff.
well touche. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
72
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:43:00 -
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I AFK to recoup the isk i lose from all the p*** poor cheap ways people kill my ass or the many bugs and glitches i die from. most recent new one is i'm unable to sprint and my gun/equipment swap lags. oh and i can sit in MCC while catching up on some tv and you get exact same sp/isk as actively playing. i had one ps3 in MCC and on the other played the game and hit top spot with a good kdr and there was perhaps 500sp and 25k isk difference between the two |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.08.07 20:52:00 -
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I wouldn't AFK if I had a wife to do these dishes, oh and if the game was entertaining..
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Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
222
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:02:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Billi Gene wrote:I don't hate you Mollerz, i find hate hard to maintain in the best of circumstances if i seem venomous, it is hyperbole but you are wrong. If the SP cap were removed, you would still afk, and still try on any excuse that fits when confronted about it. Point of fact is, afk farming is limited by the SP cap as it stands, the current double cap and what will be an epic AFK farm will testify to this. Its really great that you can be positive about a game that you are helping to ruin by the way .. if and when DUST does start to realise its potential... just remember, it had little to KITTEN all to do with the contributions of the AFK farmers. You can't provide weapon and map data from the MCC :P once again :) no hate, but dude... get over yourself :) Were it just you ;) If the skill cap was removed I wouldn't AFK simply because I could play like a beast when I wanted, and not according to a schedule with an expiration date. It really is that simple. I have put about $300 USD into the game. Give or take. So it is not just being positive. I have also financially supported the development of the game as well. I am not ruining the game, my friend. I think, if the game were to be ruined, there's only one place to lay the blame. And it is not the player base. I play far more games actively than I AFK. I've posted plenty of topics. Some I'd like to think have had a beneficial impact on the development of the game so far. Like I said, you already have these preconceptions you've made up in your mind, actively projected it onto AFKers and are going to continue on that way until it's a moot point. I get that. I can only point out all of that stops at your brain, and I assure you, you aren't putting all the pieces of a bigger picture together. You can do what you will with that information. Why would I get over myself? I am a knifer scout OF COURSE I love glory. But that being said, again, the feeling that I need to get over myself is solely a projection based on a biased perception that is a foregone conclusion in your thought process. Thus, the irony here, is that you should probably get over yourself (:
lol i have no preconceived notions above generalised character archetypes. I think you are trying to imprint my responses for whatever benefit you might reap from such.
if you are afking now, then you are fine with such behavior, there is no reason to presume your behavior will change with a lifted SP cap.
Its nice that you post on the forums :D
but i'd still suggest that afking is not beneficial to either the game or its community, except as concerns the individual benefits of afking, for everyone around an afk'er it just means that that is one less person participating in a match, reducing team ratio's and in those matches with half a team afking, reducing morale and stealing any chance of a win from the team stuck with the AFKers.
if you think that isnt harming the game, i'd ask you to consider the people around you :P |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:19:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:
lol i have no preconceived notions above generalised character archetypes. I think you are trying to imprint my responses for whatever benefit you might reap from such.
if you are afking now, then you are fine with such behavior, there is no reason to presume your behavior will change with a lifted SP cap.
Its nice that you post on the forums :D
but i'd still suggest that afking is not beneficial to either the game or its community, except as concerns the individual benefits of afking, for everyone around an afk'er it just means that that is one less person participating in a match, reducing team ratio's and in those matches with half a team afking, reducing morale and stealing any chance of a win from the team stuck with the AFKers.
if you think that isnt harming the game, i'd ask you to consider the people around you :P
You would have to ignore the fact that I just don't AFK, but actually play a lot as well. I wouldn't even know the stuff I post if I only AFK'd . so if I AFK 30% of my play time and the rest actively partake in battles, as well as financially contribute, as well as post on the forums, I am harming the community?
pfft. there's no way to come to that conclusion unless your personal feelings got in the way.
so the question is do i represent the behavior of most AFKers? We'd need to ask the crowd...
So how long have you been playing? I've been playing since closed beta. hard mode too.. scout. You might not know this, but we have been playing variations of the same themes down to the exact same matches and maps since then. not much has gone well since then, but here I am, still playing and contributing. so is that, again, harming the community?
I don't prefer to AFK, dude. CCP has developed a game where it has become the most efficient way to play the game. I know you want to put all kinds of emotions of grandeur and honor on the cake, but the cake itself is most efficiently made when you AFK till you cap and then play. mayhap sprinkle some pre-cap games in there with your friends/whatnot. I didn't make the cake sandbox, CCP did.
you should explore, for yourself, the reasons behind why I said that is the most efficient way to play dust. you might come to some jarring conclusions. |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
365
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:24:00 -
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I AFK because its more fun than playing this game. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
426
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:25:00 -
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Yes they would |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
468
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:32:00 -
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I wouldn't AFK if myself or my PS3 were preoccupied. The grind is too tedious. Spending 2 weeks maxing out just to achieve 1 level is kinda whack.
I wouldn't AFK if 30 seconds without gunfire sent you to the MCC, 2 minutes in the MCC resulted in being kicked. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
222
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:11:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Billi Gene wrote:
lol i have no preconceived notions above generalised character archetypes. I think you are trying to imprint my responses for whatever benefit you might reap from such.
if you are afking now, then you are fine with such behavior, there is no reason to presume your behavior will change with a lifted SP cap.
Its nice that you post on the forums :D
but i'd still suggest that afking is not beneficial to either the game or its community, except as concerns the individual benefits of afking, for everyone around an afk'er it just means that that is one less person participating in a match, reducing team ratio's and in those matches with half a team afking, reducing morale and stealing any chance of a win from the team stuck with the AFKers.
if you think that isnt harming the game, i'd ask you to consider the people around you :P
You would have to ignore the fact that I just don't AFK, but actually play a lot as well. I wouldn't even know the stuff I post if I only AFK'd . so if I AFK 30% of my play time and the rest actively partake in battles, as well as financially contribute, as well as post on the forums, I am harming the community? pfft. there's no way to come to that conclusion unless your personal feelings got in the way. so the question is do i represent the behavior of most AFKers? We'd need to ask the crowd... So how long have you been playing? I've been playing since closed beta. hard mode too.. scout. You might not know this, but we have been playing variations of the same themes down to the exact same matches and maps since then. not much has gone well since then, but here I am, still playing and contributing. so is that, again, harming the community? I don't prefer to AFK, dude. CCP has developed a game where it has become the most efficient way to play the game. I know you want to put all kinds of emotions of grandeur and honor on the cake, but the cake itself is most efficiently made when you AFK till you cap and then play. mayhap sprinkle some pre-cap games in there with your friends/whatnot. I didn't make the cake sandbox, CCP did. you should explore, for yourself, the reasons behind why I said that is the most efficient way to play dust. you might come to some jarring conclusions.
what does how long i have been playing have to do with it? =/
the ratio that you "play the game" as opposed to any other activity is telling don't you think? buying aurum item/packs does not entitle you to behave badly >.< posting on the forums is great! but has little bearing on whether your in game behavior is acceptable?
also you seem to have some preconceived notion that i know very little about the game.
I'm also closed beta :)
and your reasoning is a bit funny.... you seem to think that playing the game is afking. The most efficient way to PLAY the game is to actually play it. yah knooow??
edit (because I'm doing this between matches :P): the most efficient manner to play this game that I have found... is to have alt accounts. When one is capped i use another account. In this manner i get to explore alot of different niche as well as have my generalist main =o
but hey.. you do what you feel is best for you :)
play how you prefer otherwise, its not up to me to say either way, it is indeed CCP's game.
I have nothing against you nor any one =o this is a discussion is it not?
EvE invite btw >.< |
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