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MCEINSTEIN08 Defective by Design 17	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:29:00 - [1] - Quote After a month of intense playing, I finally got my PROTO Logistic Dropsuit. Even though it has many options compare to all others Dropsuits, my advice would be to work on your Advance Dropsuit and then your Dropsuit Upgrades. The PROTO Dropsuit will not make you invincible. :) Also remember to get a PROTO Dropsuit you need to reach (the 696'...k SP) Level 4 that will give you absolutely nothing, and then the whopping 1'245'... SP (or so) level 5. With almost 2M SP you can level-up allot of Dropsuit Upgrades, that will help you as much as a PROTO. Hope this helps someone making the right decision, since here in DUST once you make a decision, you have to LIVE with it!
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 67	Posted - 2013.08.07 09:31:00 - [2] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: After a month of intense playing, I finally got my PROTO Logistic Dropsuit. Even though it has many options compare to all others Dropsuits, my advice would be to work on your Advance Dropsuit and then your Dropsuit Upgrades. The PROTO Dropsuit will not make you invincible. :) Also remember to get a PROTO Dropsuit you need to reach (the 696'...k SP) Level 4 that will give you absolutely nothing, and then the whopping 1'245'... SP (or so) level 5. With almost 2M SP you can level-up allot of Dropsuit Upgrades, that will help you as much as a PROTO. Hope this helps someone making the right decision, since here in DUST once you make a decision, you have to LIVE with it! u live with it untill it gets nerfed
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood 297	Posted - 2013.08.07 10:00:00 - [3] - Quote The level 4 Racial dropsuit does give you a racial bonus for those suit types. And it gives a double bonus i.e Armour repair +1 and 5% hacking speed for Winmatar. So not exactly useless.
AP Grasshopper The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 14	Posted - 2013.08.07 10:20:00 - [4] - Quote You went proto before investing in the basics? Your first 5 million should almost all be in drop-suit and weapon upgrades.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 122	Posted - 2013.08.07 10:24:00 - [5] - Quote A proto gear with malitia mods won't stand a chance against a starter kit with all mods and passive upgrades to proto level
DS 10 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 662	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:03:00 - [6] - Quote I'd argue to stick with Advanced dropsuits unless you're planning on participating in PC. I have a 4 mil SP Logi alt that has all advanced gear/modules and I generally do pretty well. Going Proto is just a sinkhole for SP and ISK.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 294	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:11:00 - [7] - Quote DS 10 wrote: I'd argue to stick with Advanced dropsuits unless you're planning on participating in PC. I have a 4 mil SP Logi alt that has all advanced gear/modules and I generally do pretty well. Going Proto is just a sinkhole for SP and ISK. The proto suit is nice to have, and to have done the grinding for it even nicer. Modules are easy to get compared to the suit. As for usage, I'd go advanced in pub matches and mercenary battles, unless you meet a proto-wielding-squad. Then if you have the gungame, it's game on :D
Paladin Sas Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 193	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:39:00 - [8] - Quote im a caldari assault myself, and if your not playing in PC, my advice is to get your basic specalized suit, and stick with it till you hit 10million SP. i know this sounds terrible, but running a standard level AR with proficiency 5 will let you mop up on anybody you meet, especially with a single complex shield extender and complex damage mod in the high slot. my standard fit for pubs is Dragonfly assault suit Toxin AR Toxin SMG M1 locus grenade standard level nanohive complex shield extender complex light damage mod advanced armor rep advanced cpu upgrade this suit runs me just under 17thousand isk per death and im usually in the top3 of the leaderboard for my team in pubs. its a cheap suit, and with a little extra isk, you can upgrade the aurum items with isk and still profit.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:42:00 - [9] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: After a month of intense playing, I finally got my PROTO Logistic Dropsuit. Even though it has many options compare to all others Dropsuits, my advice would be to work on your Advance Dropsuit and then your Dropsuit Upgrades. The PROTO Dropsuit will not make you invincible. :) Also remember to get a PROTO Dropsuit you need to reach (the 696'...k SP) Level 4 that will give you absolutely nothing, and then the whopping 1'245'... SP (or so) level 5. With almost 2M SP you can level-up allot of Dropsuit Upgrades, that will help you as much as a PROTO. Hope this helps someone making the right decision, since here in DUST once you make a decision, you have to LIVE with it! We kinda knew this and the new members.
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:42:00 - [10] - Quote People see proto suits in matches and think thatGÇÖs all they need. Unfortunately proto with no SP in skills behind it is just expensive basic suit. Sure, it has plenty of slots but if you canGÇÖt fit it with good mods, itGÇÖs useless. It has the same base stats as the starter fit and will only end up costing people a lot of ISK. If you went for the proto suit prematurely, itGÇÖs OK, at least that grind is over. Just donGÇÖt use it until you have your core skills and proto mods. I like to play around with my proto suits though, the added slots allow flexibility. I try out different mods on them for different play styles. I have a test suit with nothing but shield regulators and armour repairers, one for speed hacking and so on. ItGÇÖs fun, but a very expensive hobby

CrotchGrab 360 187. 177	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:48:00 - [11] - Quote DS 10 wrote: I'd argue to stick with Advanced dropsuits unless you're planning on participating in PC. I have a 4 mil SP Logi alt that has all advanced gear/modules and I generally do pretty well. Going Proto is just a sinkhole for SP and ISK. yup. learned that the hard way. proto is a waste of isk for me.
Hi-only-me-again Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:52:00 - [12] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: A proto gear with malitia mods won't stand a chance against a starter kit with all mods and passive upgrades to proto level Basically the above your first 2 million pretty much should all be in your core skills. Shield armour CPU PG etc This allows you to fully equip your suits with better modules for better surviveability.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 27801	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:55:00 - [13] - Quote I don't have enough attention personally to get to proto on anything... I keep trying different weapons, suits, and such. I currently have both Gallente and Caldari advanced medium suits, about to get advanced Gallente Logi, have advanced scramblers, mass drivers, assault rifles, SMG, and flaylock (which I am beyond terrible with so switched to SMG). My shield and armor skills are mediocre at best because I keep leveling them up together. Basically I get things to advanced and then move on to try the next thing. Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Paladin Sas Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 193	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:57:00 - [14] - Quote so, weve established that devs are terrible at the games they create. my question to you devs is, are you better at being terribad at EvE, or DUST?
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 802	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:57:00 - [15] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. Welcome to my world

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 27801	Posted - 2013.08.07 11:58:00 - [16] - Quote Paladin Sas wrote: so, weve established that devs are terrible at the games they create. my question to you devs is, are you better at being terribad at EvE, or DUST? What if I just said I was bad at both? Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Absolute Idiom II Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 375	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:01:00 - [17] - Quote I have all 4 logi suits to ADV for this reason. Gives me a lot of versatility and I've invested the bulk of my SP into core skills that benefit all suits. Proto suits are just too expensive in terms of SP (and isk) to whelp in matches with randoms. Bring on the improved matchmaking.
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 998	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:04:00 - [18] - Quote Paladin Sas wrote: so, weve established that devs are terrible at the games they create. my question to you devs is, are you better at being terribad at EvE, or DUST? Actually IWS and CCP Foxfour are taking a more Eve approach to the game. It probably will allow for a braoder experience. Rather than specializing so that they can get a single really powerful combination that would be marginally useful to use in battle and play over and over, they are actually widening the kinds of experience that they can have. Having a wide range of ADV tier goods means that it will help you adapt in battle to whatever is necesary. There isn't a right way to do your skills. There are ways that are more efficient.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 821	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:12:00 - [19] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I don't have enough attention personally to get to proto on anything... I keep trying different weapons, suits, and such. I currently have both Gallente and Caldari advanced medium suits, about to get advanced Gallente Logi, have advanced scramblers, mass drivers, assault rifles, SMG, and flaylock (which I am beyond terrible with so switched to SMG). My shield and armor skills are mediocre at best because I keep leveling them up together. Basically I get things to advanced and then move on to try the next thing. Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. Yea thats because we dont have advanced/proto mods/vehicles
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 803	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:20:00 - [20] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I don't have enough attention personally to get to proto on anything... I keep trying different weapons, suits, and such. I currently have both Gallente and Caldari advanced medium suits, about to get advanced Gallente Logi, have advanced scramblers, mass drivers, assault rifles, SMG, and flaylock (which I am beyond terrible with so switched to SMG). My shield and armor skills are mediocre at best because I keep leveling them up together. Basically I get things to advanced and then move on to try the next thing. Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. Yea thats because we dont have advanced/proto mods/vehicles you sound like a broken record,

CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:24:00 - [21] - Quote MCEINSTEIN08 wrote: After a month of intense playing, I finally got my PROTO Logistic Dropsuit. Even though it has many options compare to all others Dropsuits, my advice would be to work on your Advance Dropsuit and then your Dropsuit Upgrades. The PROTO Dropsuit will not make you invincible. :) Also remember to get a PROTO Dropsuit you need to reach (the 696'...k SP) Level 4 that will give you absolutely nothing, and then the whopping 1'245'... SP (or so) level 5. With almost 2M SP you can level-up allot of Dropsuit Upgrades, that will help you as much as a PROTO. Hope this helps someone making the right decision, since here in DUST once you make a decision, you have to LIVE with it! So you mean to say it didn't seem like a great idea to get +25% to shield, then +25% to armor, then +25% to efficacy of modules for both, then +25% to CPU and PG upgrades, then +25% to hacking speed? You can't level up much of the dropsuit upgrades at all. You get armor upgrades, core upgrades, and shield upgrades. Compared to the max of +25% for the modules themselves, that's nothing. Plating, repair systems, extension, recharging and regulation are all 3x skills, each requiring 932,760 SP to max out. Engineering and electronics are 5x, each requiring 1,554,600 to max out. You can't get jack with 2mil SP, really.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:30:00 - [22] - Quote AP Grasshopper wrote: You went proto before investing in the basics? Your first 5 million should almost all be in drop-suit and weapon upgrades. Lol? Takes around 10mil to fill out the important core upgrades.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:34:00 - [23] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. You have no idea the ramifications of a CCP Dev saying they're not going to skill into vehicles. That really explains a lot.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:36:00 - [24] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Paladin Sas wrote: so, weve established that devs are terrible at the games they create. my question to you devs is, are you better at being terribad at EvE, or DUST? Actually IWS and CCP Foxfour are taking a more Eve approach to the game. It probably will allow for a braoder experience. Rather than specializing so that they can get a single really powerful combination that would be marginally useful to use in battle and play over and over, they are actually widening the kinds of experience that they can have. Having a wide range of ADV tier goods means that it will help you adapt in battle to whatever is necesary. There isn't a right way to do your skills. There are ways that are more efficient. But pilot's problem with IWS is that he's saying he's a good pilot, when he runs militia gear on a Sica. That means less than nothing to us.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 137	Posted - 2013.08.07 12:38:00 - [25] - Quote Sir Meode wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I don't have enough attention personally to get to proto on anything... I keep trying different weapons, suits, and such. I currently have both Gallente and Caldari advanced medium suits, about to get advanced Gallente Logi, have advanced scramblers, mass drivers, assault rifles, SMG, and flaylock (which I am beyond terrible with so switched to SMG). My shield and armor skills are mediocre at best because I keep leveling them up together. Basically I get things to advanced and then move on to try the next thing. Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. Yea thats because we dont have advanced/proto mods/vehicles you sound like a broken record, At least he keeps involved in goings-on pertaining to vehicles.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2395	Posted - 2013.08.07 13:36:00 - [26] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Paladin Sas wrote: so, weve established that devs are terrible at the games they create. my question to you devs is, are you better at being terribad at EvE, or DUST? What if I just said I was bad at both? It's all good. Developers are usually not very good at the games they design. Hell, I actually was one of the worst players in Atonement when I did map design for it and I knew where the hell everything was O_o;

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 27819	Posted - 2013.08.07 13:48:00 - [27] - Quote CoD isAIDS wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. You have no idea the ramifications of a CCP Dev saying they're not going to skill into vehicles. That really explains a lot. Why? I don't balance vehicle stats, I don't do art for them, I don't do any design for them whatsoever. I am much more interested in making sure I am involved with, or as close to as possible, the areas of the game that I and the rest of my team do work on. The game is way too big to know everything, skill into everything, do everything, and just understand it all. So yes, I could go and learn things I do not work on or I could instead spend that time trying to make sure I have at least a small understanding of what is going on with what I do work on. :) Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Che Cortez Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2013.08.07 13:51:00 - [28] - Quote W0ot true grit! Keep it up, u guys are awesome
Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 386	Posted - 2013.08.07 14:09:00 - [29] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CoD isAIDS wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. You have no idea the ramifications of a CCP Dev saying they're not going to skill into vehicles. That really explains a lot. Why? I don't balance vehicle stats, I don't do art for them, I don't do any design for them whatsoever. I am much more interested in making sure I am involved with, or as close to as possible, the areas of the game that I and the rest of my team do work on. The game is way too big to know everything, skill into everything, do everything, and just understand it all. So yes, I could go and learn things I do not work on or I could instead spend that time trying to make sure I have at least a small understanding of what is going on with what I do work on. :) CCP FoxFour has the "Troll Free" racial bonus (Resists baiting by 20% per level) CCP FoxFour activates his "Shut the f**k down" module. However, with Compassion Proficiency level 5, he can soften the blow Take it easy there CoD. He doesn't have 28K likes for nothing.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2395	Posted - 2013.08.07 14:17:00 - [30] - Quote CoD isAIDS wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Luckily I have been able to stay away from investing anything in vehicles because that would just ruin me and I would never get anywhere. You have no idea the ramifications of a CCP Dev saying they're not going to skill into vehicles. That really explains a lot. That's like saying a military General cannot lead men because he doesn't have a Masters in Music Theory.



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